Dark_castle
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Tetsuya Takahashi's message on Xenoblade Chronicles 2
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Vay meets voy
It's good that he's doing different things, i'm already in just from what they've shown at the treehouse (which is nothing compared to the size of the game if it's anything like the previous ones, like judging XB1 from one part of colony 9).
It's good that he's doing different things, i'm already in just from what they've shown at the treehouse (which is nothing compared to the size of the game if it's anything like the previous ones, like judging XB1 from one part of colony 9).
I wonder if you guys realize how massively loved the game is outside of neogaf. And even here the difference is that people who hate are a bit too vocal compared to those who liked it.
Don't worry, if Nintendo's efforts in recent years are anything to go by, they will give her pants for the Western version.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
Its basically a standard Japanese comedy trope of wondering if they could get it done in time
NintendosBooger
Member
They shouldn't have abandoned the Xenoblade X theme simply because of its lukewarm commercial reception on the Wii U. It was released on a trash system. A lot of good games bombed on it.
shadow2810
Member
She's already wearing pant though.
I meant more like trousers. Gotta cover those suggestive thighs.
They are not abandoning it. For all we know they are working on the XCX sequel as they are finishing XC2.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
They like to forget how highly praised X is
LordOcidax
Member
?? What?
I would actually welcome that.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
Nintendo seems kinda hands off this time around, most likely wince their targeted demographic isn't kids now, back in the beginning of the WiiU life and when bayonetta 2 came out Nintendo was positioning themselves as a lace for the mature gamers and seem to be doing that again this gen now with the results to back it up
I like everything I've seen of this game. I agree the character designs aren't great (specially the kid's pants and the translucent shorts thing on the girl), but other than that I'm game for everything. The battle system looks simplified but not watered down, the world seems as good as the first one's, and I love the PS1-like anime RPG artstyle.
I can't wait for this game.
I can't wait for this game.
There's 3 so far
Is that a bad thing?
It sure seems so lol
You likely have nothing to worry about, remember Kiria and the boob slider from X? Yeah
Muffin Awesome
Member
I really want to get this, I just can't get into the battle system.. like at all from C1 or X. I just don't get the standing and auto attacks.
I really want to play this too!!! Anyone else have to overcome this type of resistance I have never been an MMO player either and the combat system reminds me of that.
I really want to play this too!!! Anyone else have to overcome this type of resistance I have never been an MMO player either and the combat system reminds me of that.
Seems to me that she's 100% dependent on him.
NintendosBooger
Member
You have a Zelda avatar from a game where she's incessantly calling out to Link to save her. But they work together, each depend on the other. How's this any different?
Yeah :/ here's hoping.
Mister Wolf
Gold Member
In the trailer he says cornily "I will show you what me and pyra are made off." They obviously have a team dynamic depending on each other.
Alex_Mexico
Member
Coming from someone who adored the first XC I cannot bring myself to be interested in this sequel. The main character looks dumb as shit, the leading chick is an excercise in embarrassing anime tropes to the nth degree (does it always have to be children saving the world and does the 15 year old chick have to look like a hyoersexualized doll in impossible clothing?).
Creator says he doesn't want to make a game about "old men". That's fine. But the day they make a jrpg like this where you play as a band of 30-40 year old people where the protagonist is a full grown adult with facial hair they'll be subverting a trope which could be refreshing.
I'm done with these kinds of games looking like this. I'm 30 years old. This game ain't for me anymore.
Creator says he doesn't want to make a game about "old men". That's fine. But the day they make a jrpg like this where you play as a band of 30-40 year old people where the protagonist is a full grown adult with facial hair they'll be subverting a trope which could be refreshing.
I'm done with these kinds of games looking like this. I'm 30 years old. This game ain't for me anymore.
Jampsuliini
Member
In this game I actually hope they change the designs... Takahashi talks about making something unique, yet on first glance the game looks like the most generic animu game complete with one of the first main characters introduces being a blatant otaku bait design. Hope the story delivers something unique like he's suggesting. Don't get me wrong I'm still in day 0 and I'm sure I'll love the game. It's just that I love JRPG's so much and I just want the biggest games to move past stuff like questionable dub quality and fan service designs.
so you're saying she's objectified both figuratively and literally
Bamboo 竹
Member
I can't believe that we passed from S tier character design Elma to shit tier character design Rex and Pyra.
Still I'm going to buy this game for the combat system and (hopefully) good story.
Still I'm going to buy this game for the combat system and (hopefully) good story.
Mister Wolf
Gold Member
Bamboo 竹;240852492 said:
It seems he's back in a Xenosaga phase again. I didn't like the designs for any of those characters.
She depends on him the way he depends on her. They fight side by side after all. She provides her powers to him so he can fight while he fights to bring her to Elysium.
I really doubt the weapons are going to get new outfits. Considering how they all work under equip weapon > summon aesthetically similar looking personification and there is going to be a lot of them.
Plus I just don't see those generic robot like dudes they shown in the gameplay demo that Rex equiped getting outfits or the tiger for example.
Story wise X is basically a giant build up for its sequel, so it wouldn't make sense. Plus they need to give me dat Elma main character or i'll hate them forever
You know, judging from all these posts looks like nobody buys or gives a fuck about Xenoblade for top tier gameplay and world design, which is baffling to say the least.Bamboo 竹;240852492 said:
I don't mind the character, but her breasts really need to taken down a size and adjusted a bit because it looks ridiculous in game. Will be looking forward to a bit of romance plot. Should be fun in any case.
Bamboo 竹;240852492 said:
Only Rex's clothes causes the conflict, otherwise everybody looks good. Pyra is well designed IMO. Basically Elma
on her alien look without having an alien appearance.
Elma is basically the main character in X as the story revolves the most around her. We just need her to be the lead party member in the sequel.
I totally agree, this forum gets so toxic when it comes about XBX that most people that actually likes the game refrains from post most of the time. Even threads about the first XB of the developer itself are contaminated ipso facto into an infinite loop of complains.
Sad thing is that even without the concern trolls that never played any Xeno game and the "I hate the game/music/faces/combat, and I already told you this a thousand times before in the past 5-10 years but I can't help myself derailing every XB Franchise thread on GAF with my opinion" people, there are still irrational fights between people that likes XBC or XCX more than the other, so a normal discussion about this saga or commenting news is nearly impossible (the last examples were the threads about the rumoured delay, the "main" thread for this E3 and the one about the four musical pieces), and reading those threads becomes depressing.
On topic, I'm intrigued about this message from Takahashi-san, I don't think he'll change that much the way the story is usually told, even if there's no a big tragedy in the first hours of the game.
The trailer and the E3 demo are not as "epic" as some of XBX ones, but XB2 is a more traditional JRPG so the surprises will come in the latter part of the story, not in the first area.
It's also interesting that this time they didn't show any introduction to the world or a cinematic like the Battle of the Sword Valley or the destruction of Earth, the crash on Mira and Elma finding the main character Stasis Capsule. This time Treehouse guys started on the middle of the field with already two party members and all at Level 7 IIRC. So there are potentially tons of details unknown on the beginning of the story, and that's exciting.
This avatar bites me in the ass all the time it seems.
Yes, you're right. Zelda is a bad example of good female character representations in video games. But at least Zelda isn't dressed like that. And she doesn't cease to exist if Link dies. She doesn't have over-dimensional breasts. She doesn't "love this world because Link's in it." Etc.
Mister Wolf
Gold Member
I really hope they show off more Xenoblade today. The guy playing during the Treehouse wasn't good at showing off the Physical chain attacks or the new status effect chain attacks.
Oh yeah? I wonder why i've seen actual girls saying that she's a fantastic and even relatable character. I can't show you examples of girls i know but check what Alanah Pearce said about the character for example.
I'd like to see a different environment, or at least a different area of the same one.
pinkurocket
Member
I prefer despair and sadness in my RPG stories! Make me cry goddamit.
NintendosBooger
Member
I agree. Not a big fan of the character designs myself. It's why I've pretty much avoided the more recent EO games.
I agree with criticisms about the clothing; the way the character's dressed is pretty blatantly for fanservice purposes. But I think the rest of your thoughts are pretty weak. I'm not sure where the ceasing to exist thing comes from, but I thought the "I love this world..." line was pretty cute, why do you think that line comes from a place of dependance rather than romantic love and how is that harmful representation? We're missing context for it but that's something I'd expect on a valentine's card. And I don't feel like having big breasts is a bad thing for female representation, I've read several comments that read like they expect breasts to fall within a certain size range or that somehow makes the character worse or less credible or something. I'm pretty sure there's plenty of cool and capable women with big breasts in this world we live in. Again, I think it's the clothing that's obviously pandering to a male audience that's the problem that clashes with the character traits that the game probably wants her to have, not any of her physical attributes.
Like somebody else already pointed out, the Blades are no female by definition. They're not even human beings as fas as we know (correct me if I'm wrong), maybe not even living creatures
-Maybe they're Gods, or even software like Alvis?
Mister Wolf
Gold Member
I don't know if I should feel bad or not but fan service doesn't bother me whether pandering to males or females. The only time I roll my eyes towards it is when they give a bullshit reason for the attire like our boy Kojima.
DangerMouse
Member
He looks a decent amount like Gaignun Kukai/Nigredo from Xenosaga too.
Same here, absolutely. I haven't really enjoyed many of the main characters in Xeno games in years which has made it hard to enjoy the overarching stories too, so I'm not really expecting that much from the story anyway. Would be nice if it surprised me positively, though.