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The artist known as Prince has died at age 57
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entremet
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Yep. It sure is a problem.Hope at least the opiate epidemic gets more coverage, RIP
Cindi Mayweather
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This has hit me so hard and I'm sitting at work in a corner crying as I read the report. This man has had such a strong effect on me since he has died and I got to know him through his music and yet his death is what got me to know him through his music. I'm starting to mourn gravely.
Prince had hip pain and he needed hip replacements. He likely took the medicine to alleve the pain.
Prince had hip pain and he needed hip replacements. He likely took the medicine to alleve the pain.
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They're legal because they're extremely useful for extreme pain in cancer patients and other forms of surgical recovery. The problem comes when people ignore doctors' instructions and when no support is provided to help patients who become dependent on them. Of course, that doesn't help when you have a patient who refuses to listen or thinks they don't have a problem.
Regardless, they're too useful a medical tool to be banned or outlawed.
Well they should be used in hospitals only or something. This is al health problem.
A relatively minor health problem in comparison to what the drugs are used to treat. Pain isn't confined to the hospital and you can't keep people in the hospital until their pain goes away. Opioids are used responsibly by tens of thousands of patients to great benefit. It makes no sense to take a useful tool away from doctors and their patients because of relatively few abuse cases. A case could be made for closer supervision of prescriptions and how many doses are given out to patients at one time, though.
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I'm not sure you have really thought this out fully.
Pain management is a modern miracle, and the ability to treat pain allows millions of people to lead a somewhat normal life.
The solution to this problem is not to take that away.
I take opiates for a herniated disc at the C5-C6 level of my neck.
Have you ever had chronic excruciating pain?
You probably wouldn't ask that question.
Luckily my herniation isn't bad and only flares up every few months. I only take them as needed because they are powerfully addictive. You can also only get so many in a 90 period in my state legally without going to a pain management specialist.
And they aren't easy to get (legally) although I'm sure if you have enough money, fame, and status, its ridiculously easy. Last time I called my doctor for a refill of my prescription, it wasn't pleasant. They make you feel like a junkie if you ask for pain meds. They won't call it in to a pharmacy for you to pick up. I had to physically go to the doctor's office, let them photocopy my driver's license next to the written prescription and then sign that entire piece of paper, and then do the exact same thing at the pharmacy.
This just led me down a rabbit hole of Wikipedia articles and reddit user comments about opiates and goddamn...this is terrifying stuff I also just learned that 1/3 of adults in Utah had a prescription for opioid painkillers. Quite ironic considering its large Mormon population.
Makes me sad to see artists, such as Prince, MJ, etc, pass away due to drugs they took to ease the pain they were having or to cope with the stresses of the industry.I don't get why these drugs aren't better regulated. Systems should be put in place to prevent such abuses and doctors should stop prescribing opioids for bullshit reasons, enough people have died due to this stuff already.
Makes me sad to see artists, such as Prince, MJ, etc, pass away due to drugs they took to ease the pain they were having or to cope with the stresses of the industry.I don't get why these drugs aren't better regulated. Systems should be put in place to prevent such abuses and doctors should stop prescribing opioids for bullshit reasons, enough people have died due to this stuff already.
See my post above. They are heavily regulated. So much so that even people who take them in moderation for chronic pain are made to feel like junkies.
Average Joe or Jane who abides by the system aren't the ones falling over dead from overdoses. Its people who skirt the system and obtain them illegally, or people who have enough fame, money, and status to make sure the system doesn't apply to them - those are the ones who are falling over dead from overdoses.
Seems like the CDC agrees with me though:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...-prescribing-reduce-abuse-overdoses/81809704/
Obviously there are people who truly need these drugs, but if you look at the graph in the link, the number of death from opioids has been steadily increasing.
There are average joes that are dying from this though:
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/may/26/utah-mormons-prescription-painkiller-addiction
Even if you remove opioids out of the picture, the reality is that the USA has prescription drug problem and tends to over prescribe them compared to other countries.
It's one of the reasons heroin use has increased so much; heroin is cheaper and sometimes easier to get than the prescription drugs some people get addicted to. Obviously, these meds are great for those who need them but something is wrong in our system when so many people get addicted.
I had a co-worker who broke her leg downhill biking. They gave her oxy for the pain and she eventually came back to work in her cast. Not long after she was completely healed, 2 months at most, she admitted to us that she had gotten a bit addicted to the oxy and realized she had a problem. She was smart enough, and savvy enough, to realize this on her own and handle it but a lot of people go in the other direction.
I had a co-worker who broke her leg downhill biking. They gave her oxy for the pain and she eventually came back to work in her cast. Not long after she was completely healed, 2 months at most, she admitted to us that she had gotten a bit addicted to the oxy and realized she had a problem. She was smart enough, and savvy enough, to realize this on her own and handle it but a lot of people go in the other direction.
It probably depends on the state you are in. It's not easy to get in my state legally. They won't give you any more than 90 pills in a 90 day time period. That's 1 pill a day. If you need more than that then you have to specifically go under the care of a pain management specialist physician because no other physician is allowed to write them for you at that point.
Plus they track and record every time you get a refill. And there's that whole walk of shame they make you do at the doctors office and at the pharmacy if you need to get a refill.
Dominican Power
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But Fentanyl for a hip? That shit is for people who have cancer.
Ninja Scooter
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I think his hips had been jacked up for years. There's conflicting stories about whether or not the reason he couldn't or hadn't gotten a replacement was because of his religion, or some other health issues though.
Cindi Mayweather
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Not a hip. Both hips and his knees. He jumped from tall risers wearing heels.
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/05/prince-did-not-die-from-pain-pills-he-died-from-chronic-pain/
There is a great documentary from PBS Frontline, if you haven't watched it yet, that delves into that very situation. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/chasing-heroin/
Fentanyl is an extremely dangerous drug. I am quite familiar with it because of very horrible and personal family issue I had to cope with.
It can readily cause severe respiratory depression if administered at too high doses. Further compounding this problem is that in normally comes in the form of extended-release patches. Once applied, and once a steady state of release has been reached, it is impossible to abruptly stop the release of fentanyl into a person's system, not even when removing the patch.
This medicine is mainly intended for cancer patients who have become extremely opioid resistant after extended therapy and also those who can not get administration of pain medication by other means like pills. It also rapidly builds opioid resistance and physical dependence.
It can readily cause severe respiratory depression if administered at too high doses. Further compounding this problem is that in normally comes in the form of extended-release patches. Once applied, and once a steady state of release has been reached, it is impossible to abruptly stop the release of fentanyl into a person's system, not even when removing the patch.
This medicine is mainly intended for cancer patients who have become extremely opioid resistant after extended therapy and also those who can not get administration of pain medication by other means like pills. It also rapidly builds opioid resistance and physical dependence.
Thanks, I'll check it out.
Wow, this guy can save the country from evil Nazis and sing well too?
Julia Louis Dryfus reading Kiss is pretty good too
Julia Louis Dryfus reading Kiss is pretty good too
perfectchaos007
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Is fentanyl really 50 times stronger than heroin or is that Fox News just stirring shit up to disallow Prince from resting in peace
smokeymicpot
Beat EviLore at pool.
It is really strong. Bunch of kids died around here from taking it.
Raiden1018
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Those were false rumors I think. I don't think he had HIV
Cindi Mayweather
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When the fuck is Prince's tribute concert? I remember August months back.
His ex partner is against it and the lack of will is probably making a non starter right now
Cindi Mayweather
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His ex partner is against it and the lack of will is probably making a non starter right now
Which ex? Sheila E?
I was sure she was one of the first who stepped forward to suggest it
It's what they give you in the ambulance so you don't realize that you recently shattered your leg in 4 places. Really strong stuff.
Cindi Mayweather
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The man was in pain.
Yes, and it must of been pain I can't even imagine to have to go to those lengths. It's hard to think about.
Sorry, got my wires crossed. Tamron Hall didn't like the tribute by Madonna and didn't like that some promoters were going around with shows because no transparency on where'd the money go. They were super close.
Cindi Mayweather
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So the Bet Awards is the best we're gonna get? wtf?
I can't imagine we won't get some kind of big Prince tribute concert. No way. It'll happen eventually. He's too important to modern music.
Paisley Park will open for tours starting in October.
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/0d8c...ley-park-home-prince-opens-public-tours-oct-6
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/0d8c...ley-park-home-prince-opens-public-tours-oct-6
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