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The Big Ass Superior Thread of Learning Japanese
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Might be a good way to review from memory after a few years. lol
OpinionatedCyborg
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You can create your own here: http://www.hanzigrids.com/
(free, but if you want to use nicer handwritten fonts it'll cost 10 bux)
If I have <100 kanji to review in both my kanji decks (I run two, one with explanation/story reminders and one without) I generally add another 10 new kanji to my SRS pile. If I have >100 I don't because otherwise I will go mad.
It used to be <20, then <50, and now it's <100 because i can tear through like 400-500 SRS cards for my various decks in a little under an hour and I have a fair amount of downtime at work.
I could probably manage 20 p/day but it tends to cause a huge glut in two or three days time where you get hit with like 200 reviews at once.
It used to be <20, then <50, and now it's <100 because i can tear through like 400-500 SRS cards for my various decks in a little under an hour and I have a fair amount of downtime at work.
I could probably manage 20 p/day but it tends to cause a huge glut in two or three days time where you get hit with like 200 reviews at once.
I was doing 15+5 (across 2 decks) per day when I was off school, I'm doing 5+5 now because of time.
Yeah, kind of my thinking towards it too. I remember reviewing all the hiragana and katakana (back when I was beginning), and I found that a bit of a pain, if only for the review aspect!
That said, I genuinely find this to be interesting, so there's that motivator.
Sorry for replying so late, but I just wanted to say thanks to you too for helping out as well!
I really appreciate the help you guys have given me!
Bassmastergeneral
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I want to use the verb ukagau for humble request effect. But does this work grammatically?
先生は時間があれば指導教官になるをうかがいたいです
先生は時間があれば指導教官になるをうかがいたいです
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Deleted member 17706
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No, it doesn't.
Are you saying you want to talk with your teacher about becoming an advisor?
Bassmastergeneral
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Ok thanks. Yes exactly. Any suggestions would be really appreciated.
Edit, to be more specific. I would like to ask a teacher to be my supervisor directly using humble or honorific expressions. So something like: 'I would like to for you to become my supervisor'
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Deleted member 17706
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Just to clarify, are you asking the teacher about his or her experience becoming an advisor, or does the teacher have the power to make you an advisor and you want to ask him or her about how you can become one?
Bassmastergeneral
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Sorry, does my above edit clarify? I want to ask a teacher to become my graduate studies supervisor directly. Any verb is ok if ukagau is incorrect, I just want to maintain the politeness level in simple terms.
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Deleted member 17706
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Yeah, that makes sense. Becomes a bit harder to use "うかがう," but maybe something like this?
先生に指導教官になって頂きたいのですが、お時間のある時にお話にお伺いしてもよろしいでしょうか？
（せんせいに　しどうきょうかんに　なっていただきたいのですが、　おじかんのあるときに　おはなしに　おうかがいしてもよろしいでしょうか？）
Assuming that you would go visit him/her to talk about this later. I'm assuming this is in the context of an email?
If it's in person, then maybe just something like this:
先生に指導教官になって頂けませんか？
（せんせいに　しどうきょうかんに　なっていただけませんか？）
or
是非先生に指導教官になって頂きたいのですが、可能でしょうか？
（ぜひ　せんせいに　しどうきょうかんに　なっていただきたいのですが、　かのうでしょうか？）
Valkerionseven
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simple question
can 一 be used as way to indicate drawing out a pronunciation? Saw it a few times and kinda just always assumed and never actually asked anyone lol.
simple examples I saw were like:
ハ一イ
むしむ一し
can 一 be used as way to indicate drawing out a pronunciation? Saw it a few times and kinda just always assumed and never actually asked anyone lol.
simple examples I saw were like:
ハ一イ
むしむ一し
stump sock
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it just indicates a long vowel in katakana. not sure what it's doing in that second example? I'm not even sure that's an actual word.
Officially drawing out for only katakana, in reality (like texting) used for all words.
Never heard anyone say むしむーし though.
行こー or 行きまーす or something.
Valkerionseven
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Yeah the second one was weird, but it was used to answer the phone in pokemon black 2 and why I asked specifically since I never saw it used there before either. But thanks you guys answered the general curiousity I had about it.
Seems like it's subjective to w/e way the person is speaking or what inflection they are adding to it when its used hence the weirdness. I'll keep an eye out for it.
Seems like it's subjective to w/e way the person is speaking or what inflection they are adding to it when its used hence the weirdness. I'll keep an eye out for it.
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Deleted member 17706
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No, 一 （いち） can't, but ー can. It should be right next to the + key on your keyboard if it's an American layout.
stump sock
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Haha yep, beat me to it
I haven't played it but it sounds to me like the character has some kind of speech affectation. Like saying "hullo" or "hewwo"
Valkerionseven
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yeah, I used ichi simply cause it looked the same. also playing on a emulator messes up pixely text on a big screen lol. Would probably look better on a actual ds.
yeah thats what I assumed as well.
stump sock
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Bassmastergeneral
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Thank you so much Zefah! That was extremely helpful, I truly appreciate it 
Valkerionseven
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What's the structure of these books like? I'm about to wrap up Tobira and I'm not exactly ready to jump into another text book, I do see these discussed a lot so they have been on my radar.
Are they mostly just lists of vocab/grammar points to prepare you for a given JLPT test or are there readings or dialogs of reasonable length and depth? I would probably be looking at N3 or N2 level.
TheSporkWithin
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Kanzen Master is just grammar points with a couple of example sentences and then a handful of multiple-choice drills. They're fantastic as a refresher, or if you like very brief, concise explanations. They're not good if you want more structure, or characters.
You should probably check out Nihongo Sou Matome (日本語総まとめ
, you've probably seen them, they're the ones with the white covers with animals on them (no, O'Reilly doesn't have a monopoly on this format). They have Reading, Grammar, Vocabulary and Kanji books for each level 3 and above, pick and choose which books you want when. They expect you to study two pages each day, introducing grammar points or vocabulary in "sets" a bit more like you get in Genki and Tobira, and if you hold to that each book will take 1-2 months to finish.The grammar and vocabulary books are separated into lessons consisting of lists of vocabulary and individual grammar points, followed by example sentences, usage notes, and exercises. Generally there aren't any dialogs or long readings, and you are expected to consult external sources for more detailed explanations. There are separate books for reading comprehension, listening comprehension, and kanji. The books are directed toward a particular level of JLPT.
My impression is that after finishing Tobira, you should be more than ready to pass N3.
CountBlack
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Should I order the Genki I answer book?
Going through Genki I now, it's good and all but a lot of the times I'm not even sure if I'm correct on certain things and don't have a good way to find out since I don't have a useful CD player.
Going through Genki I now, it's good and all but a lot of the times I'm not even sure if I'm correct on certain things and don't have a good way to find out since I don't have a useful CD player.
damnit apple
You can look at the answer key here if you need it. You don't have to pay or sign up to anything. Also, do you not have a laptop/computer with a disc drive?
CountBlack
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Thanks for the link and nope lol
2015 and they start taking disc drives out of computers :/
TheSporkWithin
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Get a USB DVD drive for 20 bucks?
I might be able to find my MP3s for the Genki textbook and workbook. I think I've got them on an external somewhere.
CountBlack
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They have those now?
TheSporkWithin
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They've had them for about as long as they've had external hard drives.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00MLXA1HG/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Speaking of external hard drives, check your PM.
Kanzen Master is just grammar points with a couple of example sentences and then a handful of multiple-choice drills. They're fantastic as a refresher, or if you like very brief, concise explanations. They're not good if you want more structure, or characters.
You should probably check out Nihongo Sou Matome (日本語総まとめ
Thanks, I'll keep those in mind. I think the main thing I need to focus on right now is just reading anything and everything I can. From what little I have been able to do so far, I really notice an improvement quickly, it's just tough to find time for it after everything else. I should be out of SRS hell soon.
Just tried KanjiBox out for a little bit, is it representative of the JLPT levels in terms of vocabulary?
I should probably get some kind of book or something for N3... I still have no clue what level the exam is, my only indication is those sample questions on the official site. What's that Tobira thing?
I should probably get some kind of book or something for N3... I still have no clue what level the exam is, my only indication is those sample questions on the official site. What's that Tobira thing?
Tobira is an intermediate text book that you would do after Genki. Between it and the Japan Times Intermediate book, I would say Tobira is better by miles and would recommend it. It is a bit more difficult to get started with than the Japan Times book though.
I have used KanjiBox for vocab for a while, but can't really say if it is representative or not of JLPT, as I haven't taken any tests. There is a detailed post about how the levels are determined:
http://kanjibox.net/ios/blog/archives/2013/11/fixing-jlpt-lists/#more-341
From my experience, I have run into a ton of words that are higher up in the CORE list that aren't in KanjiBox at all, and that the dictionary used by KB intentionally leaves out some "common" words in EDICT to keep the size of the dictionary small.
SerTapTap
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Anyone know if this "influential" thing in the latest Humble weekly bundle is any good at teaching Japanese? Never heard of it before, wonder if it's worth bothering (I bought the bundle for the other things already). My knowledge of Japanese is extremely low, basically just the single word/short phrases I've picked up from games with JP voice tracks. I would love to learn Japanese but...German was bad enough and it's so extremely much closer...
stump sock
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I was actually looking at that. as far as I can tell it's just a vocabulary thing. So you walk around and point at objects and it tells you what they're called?
BlazingDarkness
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Can anyone recommend a good 電子辞書? I'll be studying in Japan from September, and I'm assuming it'd be useful to have one.
TheSporkWithin
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Honestly, unless your Japanese is already fairly advanced, you'll probably be better served with an iPod Touch with an English/Japanese dictionary (I recommend Midori) and some study software.
If you're set on getting an actual 電子辞書 though, I think the Casio Ex-Word is generally the highest regarded.
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