Tactics Ogre is generally considered better than FFT. Jeanne D'Arc is a great game, but kind of like...MY FIRST SRPG. It's good, but not as deep as FFT or TO.
They're all great games. I'd say TO first, FFT, then Jeanne.
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The *Definitive* PSP RPGs for Vita Thread
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Tactics Ogre is generally considered better than FFT. Jeanne D'Arc is a great game, but kind of like...MY FIRST SRPG. It's good, but not as deep as FFT or TO.
They're all great games. I'd say TO first, FFT, then Jeanne.
Why not Jeanne first, if that game is MY FIRST SPRG?
AuthenticM
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awesome. Subscribed to thread.
Actually Jeanne would be a quite nice introduction to the genre cause it's real easy. But it's also quite long and can get a bit boring. Especially compared to the fast and fun combat in Disgaea.
Callibretto
Member
this. don't forget to play this gem. it's better than Jeanne D'Arc, and it's approach to SRPG is actually fresh and unique, forcing you to think and strategize more rather than power level your character and finish the game by brute force.
playing TO and FFT in succession will probably burnt you out because those two games have kinda similar gameplay
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
Eh. I think FFT is more fun than TO.
archnemesis
Member
I just re-purchased a game I already own for the convenience. I feel dirty.
Welcome to Ys! You need to either stop being bad at the game, or grind a level or two. Both ways are fine, that's one of the great things with the series.
BlazingDarkness
Member
If it's anything like other Ys games then it's all about technique/timing - watch out for it's attack patterns and stuff
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
Also IIRC most of the damage you're going to do to bosses comes from stunning them.
You'll get the hang of it soon enough.
You'll get the hang of it soon enough.
Because it's not as good.
I was commenting on my opinion of quality.But, I suppose, if one played it before FFT and TO, it would seem to be a better game.
Vyse The Legend
Member
I'm curious too.
I actually feel this way about most of the games on PSN. My kneejerk reaction is to buy them all now, while the price is low, in case they do go up.
lulz at first boss, not like it's going to get any easier later. :lol
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
That's normal price. In fact Chronicles (and Trails in the Sky) just dropped by $10 within the last month. Seven and Oath have been $15 for a while now I think.
Jinfash
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Also, am I imagining things or is Disgaea 1 & 2 (digital) cheaper on Gamestop than on PSN by 4-5 dollars?
Ah, good to know. I'll guess I'll sit on it until I'm done with TiTS.
Callibretto
Member
yea.. don't bother buying Ys Oath of Felghana if you have trouble with Ys 7. Ys seven is very forgiving since you can grind for money and buy lots of potion and just brute force bosses with lots of potion.
Ys Oath of Felghana, you can only bring few potion, and they don't replenish if you died on boss battle and retry
Dead Prince
Banned
it's very satisfying when you defeat it. i'm at one bossu right now. been grinding a bit and know which character and accessory to use. just too lazy to fight it lol.
First boss in Ys Seven? Good luck with the rest of the game and series.
Seriously though, you'll get the hang of it. Be patient and learn attack patterns.
RoninChaos
Member
How do Tactics Ogre and Puzzle quest look on the Vita?
Vyse The Legend
Member
I've yet to see a PSP game that looks worse on the Vita, even if they are being upscaled. Dracula X Chronicles went from unplayable, muddy mess on my PSP1000 to WHOA SO GOOD on my Vita.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
Dat Vita OLED cleaning up PSP's crappy LCD blur-o-vision mess.
Vyse The Legend
Member
Yes, you have to buy it on PSN through your PS3, then transfer it over. I did this, and it worked.
You cannot buy it directly on your PS VITA.
Ahhhh was wondering why it wasn't showing up for me. Thanks!
RaGMasTeR90
Member
This thread convinced me to finally buy The 3rd Birthday THANK GOD I DID NOT BUY THE UMD when i had my PSP. This game is so amazing on Vita its unbelievable. Camera on the right stick is great, even though the game has a pretty stellar auto camera.
One question for you guys. Can i download the japanese Final Fantasy Type-0 demo to my Vita? Or do i have to put it on PS3 and then transfer it? Or does it even work?
THANK GOD I DID NOT BUY THE UMD when i had my PSP. This game is so amazing on Vita its unbelievable. Camera on the right stick is great, even though the game has a pretty stellar auto camera. One question for you guys. Can i download the japanese Final Fantasy Type-0 demo to my Vita? Or do i have to put it on PS3 and then transfer it? Or does it even work?
Edag Plata
Banned
What's the best Ys to start with? I tried 1 starting out but it wasn't catching on for me. Too simple maybe? You know, for someone not familiar with series norms.
It's kinda like how if I were to get someone started on Dragon Quest I wouldn't start them with I or II because they don't teach you enough. The trilogy on DS is much easier to ease people into how the series works. What would be that game for Ys?
It's kinda like how if I were to get someone started on Dragon Quest I wouldn't start them with I or II because they don't teach you enough. The trilogy on DS is much easier to ease people into how the series works. What would be that game for Ys?
crazygambit
Member
Really? That's disappointing. I was seriously considering getting Tactics Ogre to play on the Vita.
What other games show a substantial improvement?
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
You in Europe? Heard the games aren't up yet over there, but in North America that and Seven should both be on the Vita store.
You should be able to transfer it over the PS3 though from what I've seen on here.
Wait, disappointing? He said he hasn't seen a game that looks worse :lol The upscaling is 1:1 since the Vita screen resolution is exactly 4x the resolution of the PSP (2x in each direction), so there's no ugly scaling to fit a different resolution like DS games on 3DS. Combined with the much better screen and optional bilinear filtering (helps on some games, hurts on others) you'll be hard pressed to find a game that looks better on PSP.
It's disappointing that the OLED on the Vita makes all PSP games look better? It's disappointing for the PSP owners that the PSP didn't have OLED before, but this thread is for Vita owners.
It's available on the US Vita store.
If it's not in your location, check your PS3 store and then you probably can transfer it over using the content manager.
xxczx
Member
OK! Last Persona related question for me (I finally bought the P2/3 bundle!)
I played Persona 3 on PS2 but I didn't complete it, I did get far (35~ hours) and I do know what happens at the end but not how it happens. Should I go for FeMC? I'm thinking it'll be fun to play as her, I guess.
I played Persona 3 on PS2 but I didn't complete it, I did get far (35~ hours) and I do know what happens at the end but not how it happens. Should I go for FeMC? I'm thinking it'll be fun to play as her, I guess.
Yes, buy and download the game through the PS3.
Vita's resolution is exactly 2x2 the resolution of the PSP, so with bilinear filtering off scaling is perfect. Bilinear filtering can help some games look a bit better as well (depends heavily on the game, though).
jaundicejuice
Member
If you're finding the early Ys games in the series to be too simple start with 7, I guess, or maybe 3. Just know that the mechanics in the series change from game-to-game, there's no real easing-in given that each game differs from one another, the one common thread shared is all of them are pretty fast, action based rpgs. Ys 1 and 2 are similar with their simple combat mechanics (tied to position and movement) whereas Ys 3 is a different sort of beast that's much more of a dyed in the wool action rpg with lots of platforming. Seven is also more of a traditional action rpg, but you have a party to roll with and there's less platforming.
I'm just saying "traditional" in the sense that you use buttons for combat as opposed to running into enemies as you do in Chronicles.
crazygambit
Member
LOL I'm an idiot.
I read: "I've yet to see a PSP game that looks worse on the Vita" as that he hasn't seen a game that looks worse than Tactics Ogre on the Vita yet. Which of course I found disappointing.
Now I get it.
Edag Plata
Banned
Ahh, okay. 3 sounds most like my style then. I hear platforming and I am happy. That's the Oath of Whatsicalled, right? I just figure even if they're pretty different game to game, there's gotta be a bunch of common elements that I'll understand better if I played another game in the series prior.
Well, considering that with other SRPGs I get quite a ways in then get stuck because I've mismanaged something along the line and had to quit, Jeanette D'arc is probably my next buy.
I disagree with most of that assessment.
Tactics Ogre is the last SRPG to play in that sequence. Despite having the best plot of the three games, the story manages to be extremely dry because the characters are very poorly defined. The game also has issues with pacing rewards to the player since devleping character skills takes a really long time. Unless you are into hardcore SRPG mechanics you will probably fall asleep playing it. The PSP version of the game is fairly balanced in that it is difficult to make god-mode characters by the end of the game. The game also has the most content of any of the three.
FFT is the best overall game out of the three. Its story is somewhat silly (especially in comparison to TO), but it is at least interesting. Its job system is way more interesting than the systems in the other game, which makes it more rewarding to play, and since you can level up jobs relatively quickly and job skills play a larger role in combat, you can make more dynamic strategies for each map than you can with the other games. FFT also has better visuals and music than the other two games, although there are some slowdown issues with the PSP version. I also personally think that the timed abilities in FFT make its combat the most strategically interesting. The biggest weakness of the game is that the difficulty balance can be fairly uneven. There are a few battles in the game which are almost comically difficult for new players who don't know they are coming (including one near the beginning of the game). It's also possible to make the last portion of the game too easy by exploiting some of the advanced job classes if you know what you are doing.
Jeanne D'arc is just kind of bland. It does everything fairly competently, but doesn't do anything spectacularly. It doesn't really have a job system which takes away a lot of the fun of developing characters. I don't know if I'd call it "My First RPG" - it's true that the combat is less complex, with a lot of it relying on Rock/Paper/Scissors-type rules, but the game isn't necessarily all that easy. Easier than FFT or TO, yes, but no cake walk. For a first RPG, I'd recommend Disgaea. Complex as its systems get, I think it is friendlier to new players due to its basic job system, light-hearted themes, and option to adjust the game's difficulty to suit your own skill level.
Honestly, other than the volume of content, I struggle to see why people would prefer TO over FFT. Prior to the PSP remakes you could point to the hardcore difficulty of TO, but with the PSP versions I think FFT is now the more difficult game, not to mention being more fun.
Wow, I might double-dip on that if it wins (I do have the SE on UMD).
Will vote for it for sure.
Indeed it would be hilarious.
Different strokes.
It's difficult for me to think FFT is the more challenging game since I've played it dozens of times by now and now its ends and outs. I think TO is definitely more challenging now, but that might only be because I'm not familiar with it. I like TO's story a lot, although that's not why I would ever recommend a game over another. Smith's translation in TO is amazing where FFT seems to be trying to mimic it. But that being said, I really couldn't care less about the story. I come for the gameplay and for me TO is the best available, followed by FFT.
Joe Molotov
Member
$40 each for the Persona games is painful.