1) I have zero nostalgia for Donkey Kong Country in any way, shape, or form.
2) Super Mario 3d World is better by every metric so why wouldn't I just play that.
Reminds of the terrible narrative of having to feel sorry for poor Retro being stuck having to make yet another DKCR game because evil, conservative Nintendo...
Shiggy and Father_Brain have suggested (here and here) that Miyamoto and Kelbaugh's statements -- which indicated that Retro themselves wanted to work on DKC again -- were likely just a form of PR spin, presumably aimed at the type of narrative you describe.
But while that type of narrative does indeed exist to some extent at places like GAF, I am skeptical of the notion that Nintendo itself would have perceived that type of narrative as widespread/problematic enough to merit a coordinated response from Miyamoto and Kelbaugh, which is why I'm still inclined to view their statements (from September 2013, indicating that Retro themselves wanted to work on DKC again) as straightforward, rather than as a form of PR spin.
Shiggy and Father_Brain have suggested (here and here) that Miyamoto and Kelbaugh's statements -- which indicated that Retro themselves wanted to work on DKC again -- were likely just a form of PR spin, presumably aimed at the type of narrative you describe.
But while that type of narrative does indeed exist to some extent at places like GAF, I am skeptical of the notion that Nintendo itself would have perceived that type of narrative as widespread/problematic enough to merit a coordinated response from Miyamoto and Kelbaugh, which is why I'm still inclined to view their statements (from September 2013, indicating that Retro themselves wanted to work on DKC again) as straightforward, rather than as a form of PR spin.
1) I have zero nostalgia for Donkey Kong Country in any way, shape, or form.
2) Super Mario 3d World is better by every metric so why wouldn't I just play that.
Yeah DKCR has really boring enemies and the ones in Tropical Freeze are stupid looking but not in a funny way.The enemy design is so poor that it takes away the interest about playing the game.
The idea that platforming is oversaturated when there are exponentially more shooters released every year is still baffling to me.
Interesting. I think TF is much easier because of the other two Kong characters.It's a good game, beautiful to look at, it's just too hard. I never finished it. I did beat DKCR on Wii and 3DS though, which I preferred through and through.
Would I prefer that Retro make another Metroid Prime game? Of course. Does that effect my take on Tropical Freeze either way? Nope.
Was incredibly fun to play as and overdue as a playable character? Yeah I agree.Fucking Cranky Kong
How is it a waste if their 2D platformer is an amazingly well crafted game? How is a 3D game "more substantial"?I didn't play it until recently and it was alright, liked it about as much as the other DKC games, but the thing is I didn't want another fucking 2D platformer from a team that's known for their 3D action adventure games. It was a complete waste and I hope Nintendo lets Retro work on something more substantial next time.
Don't worry. It will be considered the greatest title ever when it hits the Switch. Like other WiiU games.
At least after the sales numbers of Tropical Freeze Retro knows they shouldn't waste any more time with the franchise.
I didn't play it until recently and it was alright, liked it about as much as the other DKC games, but the thing is I didn't want another fucking 2D platformer from a team that's known for their 3D action adventure games.
It's not about the quality of the game, it's the reaction. If you're getting THAT angry over a video game that you're going to use such overblown language and make it your mission to hate the game, then you should probably stop playing video games for a while because you've got anger management problems.And then the oh-so-misunderstood game came out to bad reviews and sold like shit because barely anyone wanted to play it.
Federation Force deserves a defense force the same way The Bureau: XCOM Declassified and Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII deserve a defense force.
People dismissed it because they are silly and Retro Studio is free to work on whatever game they want to work on.
Tropical Freeze sold 1 million copies and was on a toxic system, it would sell gangbuster if it was released on the Switch.
More so than any future Metroid game.
It's a good game, beautiful to look at, it's just too hard. I never finished it. I did beat DKCR on Wii and 3DS though, which I preferred through and through.
Would I prefer that Retro make another Metroid Prime game? Of course. Does that effect my take on Tropical Freeze either way? Nope.
This comment doesn't make sense. The Wii U has a legitimate claim to a few of its titles being the greatest entries in their respective series. Being a total flop shouldn't discount how good software is. See: MK8.
You post on a public forum where anyone can see your posts, it doesn't validate acting like you're a 12 year old on GameFAQS. It's 2017 and rampant fanboyism is far from the best way to contribute to a discussion. You look at an angry hate filled post and regardless of anonymity, you think "Wow, this person is kind of a dick"the shit that someone says when discussing subjects of little real world consequence on the internet (like the quality of a video game) isn't always a reflection of who they are in the real world.
TF sold 1 million???
I thought it bombed for some reason. Can I see the receipts?
It'd be depressing as hell if it did bomb. It really stands alone as the GOAT 2D platformer to me.
I don't remember there even being that huge a backlash. It just seems like DK:TF fans struggle with the fact that other people aren't as hype on the game as them. So less unstoppable internet fury and more "why don't you like my thing as much as I do?!"
The title of the game sounds like a delicious beverage. Now I'm thirsty.
The WiiU had some of the best games i've played this gen and ever. This was certainly one of them.
People missed out on those games. That's all i meant.
I blame metroid fans for the backlash in gaf specifically.
I...I want to read this thread.I don't think you've ever read the legendary "Fucking Donkey Kong" thread then.