Wag
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Wasn't he too busy inventing peanut butter?
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The Girl Scouts Have Accused The Boy Scouts Of Secretly Trying To Recruit Girls
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Wasn't he too busy inventing peanut butter?
grandjedi6
Master of the Google Search
Venture Crews have a minimum age of 14. Girl Scouts don't care about recruitment at that age. What the Girl Scouts, correctly, fear is that the Boy Scouts allowing in more girls actual means the Cub Scouts allowing in girls. Which would devastate the Girl Scouts since both programs bread and butter is the 5-10 year olds.
Megalosaro
Banned
Besides selling amazing cookies, what do girl scouts do?
Aztechnology
Member
KojiKnight
Member
So the president of the girl scouts thinks it's dangerous for girls to join the boy scouts? Lol what?
I know they support a lot of women's charities, but I'm not sure if that makes up for what is essentially exploiting child labor in the name of selling a product.
Aztechnology
Member
Also as someone who was a member of the boy scouts from elementary through most of high school. What the hell are they talking about that it's specifically suited for boys? That's bullshit. There's absolutely nothing I did that I wouldn't imagine there's tons of girls who could do and would enjoy immensely. I ended up quitting because of the leadership and power trips of some older troop leaders. But I loved what we did there. I miss those experiences constantly.
Lord of Ostia
Member
That makes more sense.
Are the Boy Scouts planning a co-ed program or a completely separate program just for girls? Because I'm pretty sure the Girl scouts are right in stating girls flourish more in single gender activities. A co-ed program mostly means the boys take over and the girls don't get to participate as much.
Also, the Boy Scouts continue to be scummy, if they're slandering Girl Scouts in this process.
Also, the Boy Scouts continue to be scummy, if they're slandering Girl Scouts in this process.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Scouts are both genders in most places. It doesn't actually make sense to split them up.
When I was a girl scout we made quilts for old people. I was taught sewing and crafting but I was always jealous of the boy scouts and their camps before I learned how tied to religion it was, especially compared to the GS. Most of our "camping" was more of a giant sleepover in the woods instead of things I wanted to do like fish or hike. But I do give the GS credit for being very open to accepting girls of all types, and the competitiveness I had for selling the most cookies made me quite a saleswoman
Maybe it's different now.
Hopefully less sewing and more technology skills.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I was in the scouts for 13 years and never had anyone push religion at either scout camps or in the local troop.When I was a girl scout we made quilts for old people. I was taught sewing and crafting but I was always jealous of the boy scouts and their camps before I learned how tied to religion it was, especially compared to the GS. Most of our "camping" was more of a giant sleepover in the woods instead of things I wanted to do like fish or hike. But I do give the GS credit for being very open to accepting girls of all types, and the competitiveness I had for selling the most cookies made me quite a saleswoman
Maybe it's different now.
I guess it varies, my brother was uncomfortable in his troop and quit because of it.
Diprosalic
Banned
what does one do in the boy or girl scouts?
Kain-Nosgoth
Member
was about to ask the same, can someone summarize in a few words what they do differently? Seems dumb to separate them like that...
omnislayer
Member
I got a lot of shit in boy scouts for being an atheist, scout master even "warned" other kids parents about me and in general made it an incredibly uncomfortable experience for me constantly try to push the "right" ways of thinking on to me.
Obviously it left me very bitter towards them.
Razgriz-Specter
Member
Because the average person is busy with other stuff and Boy Scouts aren't advertised well.
These days some kids want to just play games inside.
And as far as active kids you have to directly compete with Football, Basketball, Baseball and Soccer.
I was a cub scout as a kid. Enjoyed the pinewood derby stuff but I was never outdoorsy so I quit. I think my dad hated it when I quit both that and baseball but I appreciate that he allowed it and didn't try to live vicariously through me.
I wasn't in long enough to get any religious stuff shoved at me.
I wasn't in long enough to get any religious stuff shoved at me.
BudokaiMR2
Member
Boy Scouts were stupid in my area as a kid.
I think I was living in Mobile, AL when I decided to join. It was partially at my mother's coercion because she as a single working mother and I assume she thought it seemed like a great way to avoid babysitter fees.
It sounded fun to me, but after waiting around for like 6 months we never did anything practical. We read books and they had this really fucking weird system where they would light a large candle if we were being quiet and behaving.
The promise was that if we were good enough that the candle burned out, we would be taken on a field trip of some sort.
At one point I realized it was a scam and they were actually replacing the candle. I told my mom and had her remove me from the program because it was a waste of time.
A really weird memory that I still have a clear picture of in my mind. Fuck that candle.
I think I was living in Mobile, AL when I decided to join. It was partially at my mother's coercion because she as a single working mother and I assume she thought it seemed like a great way to avoid babysitter fees.
It sounded fun to me, but after waiting around for like 6 months we never did anything practical. We read books and they had this really fucking weird system where they would light a large candle if we were being quiet and behaving.
The promise was that if we were good enough that the candle burned out, we would be taken on a field trip of some sort.
At one point I realized it was a scam and they were actually replacing the candle. I told my mom and had her remove me from the program because it was a waste of time.
A really weird memory that I still have a clear picture of in my mind. Fuck that candle.
Man i don't remember all this religion shit from when i was a kid but i just looked it up and your supposed to make pledges to god and shit. I'm pretty surprised my mum would've let me do that. I remember being pulled out of religion class in like grade 2 or 3 because she didn't want that.
must have sucked for the kids, but that's a pretty funny story like something straight out of a Saturday morning cartoon
LogicAirForce
Neo Member
I fucking hated being in Girl Scouts. All we did was sewing, arts and crafts and other boring shit while the Boy Scouts got to go camping and on hikes through the mountains. If some girls would rather do the stuff they do in Boy Scouts then they should be able too.
I didn't know about the religious stuff in Boy Scouts. While I don't remember any religious bs in girls scouts there was certainly a lot of " girls must behave in this way and boys must behave in this way and if you don't you are wrong " which I know is quite popular with Christians.
I didn't know about the religious stuff in Boy Scouts. While I don't remember any religious bs in girls scouts there was certainly a lot of " girls must behave in this way and boys must behave in this way and if you don't you are wrong " which I know is quite popular with Christians.
SoRuffShoNuff
Member
The Girl Scouts really don't do much, people are assuming it's a better organization to join because you like their cookies. As far as activities go, the boy scouts run laps around them. The Girl Scouts essentially only do arts and crafts and sell cookies, little more than you could accomplish from a trip to Michaels and the grocery store, anything more than that and you run into a lot of red tape and hurdles. That's why parents have wanted to ability to have girls join the Boy Scouts in the past.
The problem the Boy Scouts have is their organization is a time sink. It's very hard to be a boy scout and participate in something else, which in the case of American boys that something else is baseball, football, basketball, soccer, karate, track, etc..... I was interested in being a boy scout but once I found out I wouldn't be able to play baseball I lost all interest.
The problem the Boy Scouts have is their organization is a time sink. It's very hard to be a boy scout and participate in something else, which in the case of American boys that something else is baseball, football, basketball, soccer, karate, track, etc..... I was interested in being a boy scout but once I found out I wouldn't be able to play baseball I lost all interest.
Is Boy Scouts of America and Girl Scouts of America the only Scout organizations in USA? If yes, why are they gender separated in the US.?
Also, is at least the Girl Scouts better at not being associated with an asshole church like the Boy Scouts (Mormons) and therefore a more open organization?
As a former Swedish Scout, the American Scout organization perplexes me.
Also, is at least the Girl Scouts better at not being associated with an asshole church like the Boy Scouts (Mormons) and therefore a more open organization?
As a former Swedish Scout, the American Scout organization perplexes me.
Skellig Gra
Member
Boy Scouts go camping all the times. Girl Scouts do more stereotypical girl things like sewing and selling cookies. Girl Scouts also typically skew younger than Boy Scouts. So if they combined it would be a bunch of much older boys with some little girls. No one is signing up for that.
hydrophilic attack
Member
I don't understand why these organizations are segregated by genders in the first place. That sounds like something that should have stopped 50+ years ago. The two organizations should come together and offer the same programmes for everyone
Kain-Nosgoth
Member
okay, thanks for clarifying! They should really rethink the whole thing.... there should be at least an older girlscout that do the same, go camping etc...
If not, then they really should let girls into boyscouts too (and change the name with that)! This seems unnecessarly divisive... remind me of schools in japan a bit (sure it's not obligatory like school, but still)
Skellig Gra
Member
You are probably right but I think the side effect would just be no girls would join period. Parents would be fearful of their daughters safety. We still have a lot of hang ups with stuff like gender mixing in the US.
Vincent Grayson
Member
Can't agree with the Girl Scouts here. If anything, removed the gendered stuff and allowing anyone to join either organization based on their interests in what's offered would be best.
For what it's worth, my oldest daughter thinks Boy Scout activities sound way better than what she got to do in Girl Scouts.
For what it's worth, my oldest daughter thinks Boy Scout activities sound way better than what she got to do in Girl Scouts.
grandjedi6
Master of the Google Search
That's not true at all. The Boy Scouts already separate the 5-10 year olds from the older kids with their Cub Scout program. So it would be 5-10 year old girls hanging out with 5-10 year old boys while making pinewood derby cars and going camping with their parents. And both Girl Scouts and Boy Scouts skew young since teenagers drop out of scouting heavily in both genders.
Westbahnhof
Banned
I don't know how I feel about this. Sounds a bit too close to "girls shouldn't do these boy things"
PhoenixSFT
Member
Girl Scout programs are generally awful because you only need one adult to start a Girl Scout Unit. If they're a good leader, great. If they're a bad leader, the girls are at the whim of whatever that leader wants to do, and most leaders don't want to move past general arts and crafts.
hydrophilic attack
Member
Scouting is supposed to be about having fun in and appreciating nature, learning about how to take care of yourself and of assuming stewardship for our environment. Americans just had to put weird religion, sexism and gender roles into it because of course they had to
grandjedi6
Master of the Google Search
Yeah, I don't remember ever hitting anything overly religious in my scouting either. But Boy Scouts can be pretty different depending on where you live. Being a scout in Utah, for example, is very different from being one in New York.
And even if you have a good leader, they can get sabotaged by the local council or fellow moms. I remember my mom tried to get her troop to go camping once and the closest the council rules would allow her was the girls sleeping one night in a heated enclosed teepee and elevated off the ground. And even then she had another mom fighting it because she viewed it as her sole duty to make sure the girls only did arts and crafts
Razgriz-Specter
Member
I was in Boy Scouts multiple different times in multiple different cities in Alabama and never had any real religion angle.
Only remote thing is that 2 of the club houses were on church property.
Only remote thing is that 2 of the club houses were on church property.
Here in Canada, the Scouts (there is 2 groups which is mostly separated by French/English though it not fully the case anymore) have both boys and girls together at all age groups. There is also a separate organization that is girls only (girl guides) at all ages.
The Scouts are more popular but the Guides can have locally popular groups.
The Scouts are more popular but the Guides can have locally popular groups.
PhoenixSFT
Member
Yeah, my sisters dropped out because they were bored of doing the same things over and over, and never getting to camp.