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The Great Porn Experiment (TEDxGlasgow)

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RatskyWatsky

Hunky Nostradamus
Day 11 and I've finally mastered my urges. Before, it was really difficult to abstain from jerking it whenever the urge arose, but now I don't have any problem with it. I can easily quash my desires and I don't feel like shit afterwards! Whooo!

Really, this is the first time in my life where I've actually felt in control of my sexual urges. Feels good man.
 
I feel like I sound like a bitch, but going through with this sort of makes me "uncomfortable," is if I'm forgetting to do something I should be doing. I'm on day 4 of 90 and have held strong, no serious temptations, but I do find myself having to re-justify this hiatus to myself. I actually took time to talk to my girlfriend about the entire thing because I figured it would be easier if I have someone besides just myself to be accountable to, and she's excited for it. Actually, since we only see each other on weekends right now, I find myself counting down until the weekend when I get to see her next more than anything.

Also, for my personal "challenge" here, I'm basically abstaining 100% from porn, 100% from masturbating, and as much as possible from any images/TV/etc that normally turn me on. Attempting to limit myself to only stimulation from a real, actual, in-person woman.

Stay strong, whoever else is going through with this.

Day 7 of 90, almost 10% through. Saw my girlfriend this past weekend and that certainly helped me out. We only ever see each other on weekends, so it's already quite a heated meetup, but this whole masturbation hiatus has certainly added to it. Nothing else too interesting to report; I did have a very short porn-style dream two nights ago which is abnormal for me. I'm fairly certain this is the longest I've gone without masturbating in over 10 years.
 

Cudder

Member
Eh. Made it to day 13, had some down time and fantasized about some female friends. Not sure if I want to start over again.
Its normal dude. I honestly think it will get easier.as it goes on. Im on day 7. The thought of the disappointment id feel if i slipped is enough to keep me in check.
 

ayeorkean

Member
How many times a week do you guys watch porn? At what time of the day, after work, at night going through sites, or just because?
 

Booya

Neo Member
Three weeks to go, buddy. Three weeks to go.

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Day 69. Daily morning wood, fair share of dreams although still no wet ones. Urges are in control but i could still see myself relapse if i dont watch out. Im having a date next week where she and I both know where it will end and the thought of it keeps me easily motivated to hold tight right now not to relapse. on the same note.. the thought of it makes me the human volcano with a set timer to explode.
 

J.W.Crazy

Member
I'm sorry, of all the papers I've read, Mother Nature was never mentioned in any of them. Maybe I should speak to my lab supervisor about that.

This was not a thesis, it was not a peer reviewed study. It was a short talk in front of various different types of people with various different levels of knowledge. Technical jargon shouldn't be expected.

You really can't be serious.

Here, let me put it this way. I have B.Sc.H. I've worked in an addiction lab, assisted in a Master's thesis and done my own experimentations. Did I use some short hand? Of course - because I'm not addressing a scientific community here. But what you're saying is completely false.

And the discussions on addiction are hardly universally accepted. This is my point. The concept of Video Game Addiction is not a recognized affliction but Gary Wilson throws it out there as if it's just your regular thing.

Substance abuse, which you brought up as being in the DSM, is a relatively recent addition (1980 in it's earliest form) That has gone through various changes over the years. Did it not exist before it's inclusion? As you noted "addiction" is not included, however:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Substance_abuse#DSM said:
The fifth edition of the DSM (DSM-5), planned for release in 2013, is likely to have this terminology revisited yet again. Under consideration is a transition from the abuse/dependence terminology. At the moment, abuse is seen as an early form or less hazardous form of the disease characterized with the dependence criteria. However, the APA's 'dependence' term, as noted above, does not mean that physiologic dependence is present but rather means that a disease state is present, one that most would likely refer to as an addicted state. Many involved recognize that the terminology has often led to confusion, both within the medical community and with the general public. The American Psychiatric Association requests input as to how the terminology of this illness should be altered as it moves forward with DSM-5 discussion.
That's likely to change.

Through all your varied work surely you've seen that while science is a bit slow by design it's not uncommon for ideas to exist before they become accepted, let alone universally. That's a large part of the picture you seem to be ignoring. At no time was it ever stated that anything he said was the absolute truth, merely that based on the evidence at hand it's a likely possibility. He stated several times that more research needed to be done.

The Coolidge Effect is not considered a cause of ED. So no, not everything that prevents males from getting an erection is considered a cause of ED. 'Exhausting your libido' is not considered an abnormal cause for your poor performance with women.

Of course the Coolidge effect isn't a cause of ED, mainly because it has to do with normal, healthy males achieving erections.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coolidge_effect said:
In biology and psychology, the Coolidge effect is a phenomenon—seen in nearly every mammalian species in which it has been tested—whereby males (and to a lesser extent females) exhibit renewed sexual interest if introduced to new receptive sexual partners, even after refusing sex from prior but still available sexual partners.

Mr. Wilson was speculating that the Coolidge effect may be the mechanism that allows people to abuse the system and that abuse is what could ultimately lead to ED in otherwise healthy young men. "Exhausting your libido" isn't a likely cause of ED under normal circumstances but then again no one has suggested that. It's very clear that both Mr. Wilson and I were referring to sustained complications, not people who need a few hours to recuperate.

You've backed up nothing. If you feel compelled to try again please do so but I'd like to point out that this is a thread geared towards people discussing their own experiences. It seems to have become a base of support for some and I have no intentions of further derailing it. Your posts seem geared towards negativity for the sake of it. If it all turns out to be phony who's hurt? I may have been overly sarcastic at points in my first response to you and for that I apologize. Otherwise this thread has been mostly positive and I think most would like it to stay that way.
 

Ra1den

Member
Failed on day 4, damn it all. And I was even allowing myself sexual intercourse, just no porn/masturbation.

Funny thing, I've been engaging in some rather long sex sessions over the last couple days but never busted my load for various reasons, and I never had a problem abstaining from porn. Today I actually did bust it during intercourse, and I end up breaking down and looking at porn today? Doesn't make sense. Similar to my musings on wet dreams earlier, while one would think that having an orgasm would make things easier for awhile, it seems to do the opposite to me. I guess no more busting my load, even during sex.

The next 90 days starts now.
 

AlteredBeast

Fork 'em, Sparky!
Failed on day 4, damn it all. And I was even allowing myself sexual intercourse, just no porn/masturbation.

Funny thing, I've been engaging in some rather long sex sessions over the last couple days but never busted my load for various reasons, and I never had a problem abstaining from porn. Today I actually did bust it during intercourse, and I end up breaking down and looking at porn today? Doesn't make sense. Similar to my musings on wet dreams earlier, while one would think that having an orgasm would make things easier for awhile, it seems to do the opposite to me. I guess no more busting my load, even during sex.

The next 90 days starts now.

What the? You are either the best or worst partner ever?

"You done?"
"Yeah, I was waiting for you."
"Oh, nahhhh, not today, I'm saving it."
"Oh, well, ok then, guess we could go grab a drink, all that thrusting without orgasm is making me thirsty"

BTW, wet dreams, how do they work?

Never had one. In my non-scientist way, I blame it on my one of my damaged testicles (baseball pitching incident.) but you guys think it could be something else?
 

RatskyWatsky

Hunky Nostradamus
BTW, wet dreams, how do they work?

Never had one. In my non-scientist way, I blame it on my one of my damaged testicles (baseball pitching incident.) but you guys think it could be something else?

Not every guy gets wet dreams. It's totally normal either way. If you're really concerned about it, then ask your doctor next time you go in, but I'm sure it's 100% okay. I've only ever gotten like 3 or 4 in my entire life.
 

AlteredBeast

Fork 'em, Sparky!
Not every guy gets wet dreams. It's totally normal either way. If you're really concerned about it, then ask your doctor next time you go in, but I'm sure it's 100% okay. I've only ever gotten like 3 or 4 in my entire life.

Guess so, doubt i am missing out on anything regardless.

No not having any sort of pre-cum is something that makes me a bit more puzzled. Wonder if the two are related.
 

RatskyWatsky

Hunky Nostradamus
Guess so, doubt i am missing out on anything regardless.

No not having any sort of pre-cum is something that makes me a bit more puzzled. Wonder if the two are related.

Wet dreams aren't anything special. More of a hassle than anything.

A lot of guys don't get much (if any) pre cum either. I barely get any.
 

Ra1den

Member
What the? You are either the best or worst partner ever?

"You done?"
"Yeah, I was waiting for you."
"Oh, nahhhh, not today, I'm saving it."
"Oh, well, ok then, guess we could go grab a drink, all that thrusting without orgasm is making me thirsty"

BTW, wet dreams, how do they work?

Never had one. In my non-scientist way, I blame it on my one of my damaged testicles (baseball pitching incident.) but you guys think it could be something else?

I'd say "best" is closer to the truth, though there is plenty of room for improvement. ;) I hope to get up to the god-tier status of those dudes who can go hours and hours without trying too hard to hold it back. For me it's still a real challenge and takes lots of concentration and frequent pauses.

Just thinking about taking a baseball to the nuts has me doubled over with pain. What age did it happen? I had my first wet dream while I was probably around 11-12 years old.
 

AlteredBeast

Fork 'em, Sparky!
I think I was 12 or 13. It was not pretty and has caused the one that got hit to almost feel like it got unraveled or ruptured. But, while trying to have a baby, we did an andrology exam and found that my sperm count is normal. Thank goodness!
 

Ra1den

Member
I think I was 12 or 13. It was not pretty and has caused the one that got hit to almost feel like it got unraveled or ruptured. But, while trying to have a baby, we did an andrology exam and found that my sperm count is normal. Thank goodness!

Yeah, it probably has nothing to do with the accident if everything else is checking out normal.

They are pretty annoying to have, waking up with a mess in your boxers or sheets and even worse, realizing that the wonderful fantasy situation you just enacted was fake. Not the best way to start off the day.
 
Exactly. I feel ya. Just so you can keep this in mind. I was 11 days strong but relapsed because I began viewing photos of girls online. I was edging so bad that I began to masturbate to the images I saw and then used my imagination to finish off towards climax. I felt so bad afterwards because I wasted so much time. Almost late for work. Disappointed.

Masturbation leads to procrasination. Give it up and focus your mind and energy on things that are important. It's your brain constantly seeking novelty. It's bored right now because your doing something not to exciting which in this sense that research paper (lol). Something that is simply not giving off much dopamine.

It takes time to be stronger at this reboot. It takes patient but the payoff is so awesome. I did this 90 day challenge before back in novemeber of last year. I went all the way up to early Feb. Sucks but I'm going to get past this. And it doesn't help that I suffer sometimes from social anxiety which halts my attempt at talking to girls.

You might have a better situation than me. So I'm assuming you do. Feel better about that and get out there if the opportunity comes up. You see a girl flirting take it. It's better than mastubating and remaining lonely constantly and wasting all your years away.

Hope this helps...

Just got around to reading through this thread. Thanks for the advice man. Hearing about your situation and knowing that you (as well as other people in this thread) have gone through this and can vouch that the end result is worth it helps tremendously.

Unfortunately I'm back at day 1 lol. Made it to day 10 until stress got the better of me. Even though it was only 10 days without dropping the baby batter, I think I felt more attentive and social.

I'd really like to see this thing through so I'm gonna try again. Gonna suck it up and make the 90 day pilgrimage!
 

Man

Member
Having gone through the program successfully (which I ended on April 19th when releasing it all on my lady friend) I have since kept moderation without problem. I have had more sexual releases than masturbation releases since. I'm now getting the urge more from when I'm ready for a huge blowout then from just pure boredom. Now it's a couple of days between each session and I'm not blinking an eye about it and it's awesome. Also have permanent extra sexual awareness that was dormant pre-program.
 
I fell off the wagon yesterday (after 8 days)... I "accidentally" started looking at erotic material online and the urge to beat off swelled up quickly until it was too hard to ignore. At least I did it away from the computer with no visual stimulation (in the dark with eyes closed actually) and a light grip as someone here recommended (don't understand the reason for the light grip though).

Boy, did it feel good though, and what a load.

Need to last longer this time.
 
Dang. I relapsed again too, but I'd be completely fine doing it one day a week. Though I gotta keep trying for higher.
A week is my "normal" threshold.

Once I get into the 2nd week that's when my mind starts to go on the fritz.

Hell, I even had a borderline erotic dream the other night.
 

Man

Member
Tell us more....
I have X-ray vision and can regenerate in moonlight.
I'm more daring and doing much better flirting up chicks, also minuscule female aspects attracts more. A smell of perfume as I pass someone turns me on proper etc.
 

Booya

Neo Member
I have X-ray vision and can regenerate in moonlight.
I'm more daring and doing much better flirting up chicks, also minuscule female aspects attracts more. A smell of perfume as I pass someone turns me on proper etc.

Got the exact same observation on myself. Plus x-rax.
 

Blastoise

Banned
I went 7 days. Had bad drunken sex. Couldn't cum. Got scared shitless. The next day I jacked off to make sure everything was alright. Came in 30 seconds.

Fuck this experiment.
 

Jintor

Member
Day 10. Reading arguments against gay marriage put forth by stupid people on the internet is rendering me comatose so I don't succumb.
 

Booya

Neo Member
Having gone through the program successfully (which I ended on April 19th when releasing it all on my lady friend) I have since kept moderation without problem. I have had more sexual releases than masturbation releases since. I'm now getting the urge more from when I'm ready for a huge blowout then from just pure boredom. Now it's a couple of days between each session and I'm not blinking an eye about it and it's awesome. Also have permanent extra sexual awareness that was dormant pre-program.

care to elaborate a bit more on the 3 months? why did you do it in the first place, any tough times in the 3 months, etc.
 

Booya

Neo Member

thanks, bro. This is freakin' awesome. Congrats on all the stuff you managed to achieve in the three months. It's hard to link it directly to the nofap but there's got to be some connection there. im starting to dj at big venues next month because i invested so much time into inviting guests to my radio show and prepping the shows in my off-time. still, nothing compared to your things. congrats again.

im so counting the days till im at 90 although im meeting up with someone in 6 days (wich would be ... uhm.. day 77). im thrilled but at the same time a bit nervous.

the thing with the fantasy is that its the only kind of mental pleasure i allow myself to. it doesnt end in any fapping whatsoever but i just imagine for a couple of minutes nice, normal stuff before falling asleep. hard to get rid of that. for what its worth i fantasize now only about stuff im going to do with girls i know i.e. the one im meeting soon. dunno if its still counter-productive but oh well, cant be the perfect human being for 90 days i guess.
 

Man

Member
thanks, bro. This is freakin' awesome. Congrats on all the stuff you managed to achieve in the three months.
It has been my pleasure. Thanks. Suairyu was a great inspiration and he provided excellent guidance so I thought I would share my experiences as well.
 

Klyka

Banned
So if I don't look at porn and don't fap during the week, but then have sex with my girlfriend on the weekend, does that still count as "good progress"?
Or do I really need to abstain from EVERYTHING?
 

Booya

Neo Member
So if I don't look at porn and don't fap during the week, but then have sex with my girlfriend on the weekend, does that still count as "good progress"?
Or do I really need to abstain from EVERYTHING?

progress to what? most people go for sex-yes, anything else-no. it depends on what your personal goal is or what you would like to change. some people just do it for the willpower or confidence-boost. others do it for the magical abilities one gets from it.
 
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