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"The Last Night" (Milkshake Duck incarnate) E3 Trailer [XBO/Win10/Steam 2018]
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Oh, one thing in his defence re: narrative sophistication and the guaranteed income angle of his game. On the day of the first round of the election night he tweeted that France could have had the French Bernie Sanders [Mélenchon] or someone who supported a basic income guarantee [Hamon], but instead they were choosing a Rothschild banker. So that suggests that he is approaching the premise of the game from the point of view of someone who is at the least basic-income-curious.
Yeah, that's an understandable concern. I'm French-Canadian, they're not machine translations.
Exentryk
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Seems like there is some real life drama with the creator? Don't care about that stuff. Only need the game to be good.
Nintendo won't touch anything that brings controversy especially something like The Last Night.
HP_Wuvcraft
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Yeah, I made the mistake of going on Twitter. The comments are.... yeah.....
StrawberryJam
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I realised he probably had French tweets people hadn't caught:
(the tweets he's replying to have been deleted)
1. The only racist I see here creating a racial hierarchy because someone is black or white here is you.
2. The real racists are the degenerates of your kind who see everything through the prism of race and gender.
(The next tweets are in the context of an "anti colonial summer camp" in France for POC which did not welcome the participation of white folk.)
Tim1. Please tell me you're not defending the summer camp, Baptiste.
Baptiste2. I 200% do, and I really dislike seeing everybody up in arms about it. "Oh my god, the oppressed are organising!"
Tim3. Wow, you've totally bought into the rhetoric of oppression and state racism. Disappointing.
(he then suggests Baptiste read an article he links)
Baptiste4. I read it, it's mediocre and shallow. Whether or not it chaffs your butt, institutional racism exists and is still a reality.
Baptiste5. Obviously, people who don't live it scream when say that, which in itself justifies the existence of a camp where speech is protected.
Tim6. That's anti living-together. I miss the 90s when I was a kid and we were all mixed and never thought about colour or religion.
And, re: Zoe Quinn
I don't know if you're aware, but it's a hot topic. Zoe Quinn was sexually harassing men all while crying sexism.
What kind of an idiot do you need to be to honestly believe that institutional racism does not exist? This man is a fool.
Is every poster that shows interest in the game gonna be met with "but did you know that xxx?"
Because we have an entire thread about it ya know
Martylepiaf
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Not all people read 33 pages long threads
I suppose it depends on how sincere the people coming in going wow this looks great oh wow is there a controversy haha what even is a gamergate anyway haha are being
Moot point because that trailer was fake, but a game that used to be too controversial for Nintendo during the WiiU era, The Binding of Isaac, was released on the Switch. This is different because the controversy is with the developer and seemingly not the game itself (so far) but I'm not sold on the idea of Nintendo not wanting a game on their platform because of the creator's views. I'd love to be wrong though.
considering how relevant the story premise is to his stances, yup.
NoblesseOblige
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Why? Is it a problem for you?
Psychoward
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That they're posting in? It's not even like they were talking about the art, the person specifically inquired about the narrative.
Well the plot in the game reflects the creator's horrible views. "The real-life drama" is a part of the game. Or at least was at some point in development. Kinda makes it hard to brush off.
Especially when they're calling it a "cinematic platformer". This ain't an arena shooter or something where you can just ignore the story and its themes.
Psychoward
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The game universe and story is built from the ground up as basically as his propaganda so it's a bit hard to separate the art from the artist on this one. And yeah, as you yourself noted - this game is going to live or die based on its writing both because of it being sci-fi and a narrative-driven game.
I would say it's more of an adventure game.... I'm only saying that based on the original demo he made back a few years ago.
Psychoward
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Like, imagine if Valiant Hearts was actually about how the Holocaust is jewish propaganda, suddenly the cutesy artstyle and emotional beats aren't so endearing anymore.
Aarglefarg
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Like dropping into a discussion about Chick-fil-A homophobia to let people know they want some Chick-fil-A and then leave.
HP_Wuvcraft
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The plot of the game is "liberals won".
Psychoward
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Basically. Except in this analogy the chicken sandwich meat is actually cut up and fried homosexuals instead of just being an outlying factor on why people don't support it lol
Wasn't it WW1?
Good point none the less.
Yes. If that's not cool with you there's probably plenty of forums that handwave away GG.
Psychoward
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Exentryk
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Guess I'll watch a few more trailers close to release and decide from there.
SillyEskimo
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What an amazing looking game. It really stood out to me. I can't wait to see how it plays. I hope it has a heavily synth based soundtrack. I'm looking forward to more details, like launch date and price.
JStein0222
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...does it bother you?
HP_Wuvcraft
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The guy was legit trying to put Vivian James into the game as a character.
Exentryk
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Having games/movies depicting different tougher themes is okay. I'll judge it from the trailers, and this one looks great!
Bananastand
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I look forward to seeing more people who were GamerGaters in 2014 getting called out in the coming years.
If he really changed his mind that's cool, but judging from his recent Tweets I just find that a bit hard to believe.
If he really changed his mind that's cool, but judging from his recent Tweets I just find that a bit hard to believe.
With some games I could probably ignore the creator's awful stances, but narrative would be the main draw of a game like this for me, and it's obviously going to reflect the dev's views a lot... So yeah, I'm probably going to be skipping this also.
Would be nice to be proven wrong after release, but I'm not holding my breath.
Would be nice to be proven wrong after release, but I'm not holding my breath.
Martylepiaf
Member
Or you could, you know, wait for reviews
Jawbreaker
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I realised he probably had French tweets people hadn't caught:
(the tweets he's replying to have been deleted)
1. The only racist I see here creating a racial hierarchy because someone is black or white here is you.
2. The real racists are the degenerates of your kind who see everything through the prism of race and gender.
(The next tweets are in the context of an "anti colonial summer camp" in France for POC which did not welcome the participation of white folk.)
Tim1. Please tell me you're not defending the summer camp, Baptiste.
Baptiste2. I 200% do, and I really dislike seeing everybody up in arms about it. "Oh my god, the oppressed are organising!"
Tim3. Wow, you've totally bought into the rhetoric of oppression and state racism. Disappointing.
(he then suggests Baptiste read an article he links)
Baptiste4. I read it, it's mediocre and shallow. Whether or not it chaffs your butt, institutional racism exists and is still a reality.
Baptiste5. Obviously, people who don't live it scream when say that, which in itself justifies the existence of a camp where speech is protected.
Tim6. That's anti living-together. I miss the 90s when I was a kid and we were all mixed and never thought about colour or religion.
And, re: Zoe Quinn
I don't know if you're aware, but it's a hot topic. Zoe Quinn was sexually harassing men all while crying sexism.
My goodness.
You didn't actually reply to that post. At all.
You legit managed to sound like a bot.
Exentryk
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Don't care for reviews.
freethought
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I just want to point out that besides all the disgusting GG, anti-feminist bile, this is a cyberpunk game about how great capitalism is. A CYBERPUNK game espousing the benefits of CAPITALISM.
That's so fucking mad.
That's so fucking mad.
NoblesseOblige
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But reviews are part of the establishment of unethical games journalists...or something.
Psychoward
Banned
lol what?
there's nothing tough about saying "hey if feminists had their way the world be a dystopian mess", it's actually pretty fucking sexist and ignorant
This isn't breaching some brave new ground on a philosophical stance, it's just regurgitating trash.
Eh the punk part is more of a visual design than a story element
Like Steampunk
Edit:nowadays
More_Badass
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That could be an interesting genre subversion if it wasn't for, you know, all the GG bullshit
HP_Wuvcraft
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So, you're basically saying that you're cool with a pro-GG game. Okay.
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