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The PlayStation 5 Line Up in 2023 is easing away from Cross Gen releases
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Dick Jones
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Is Factions definitely still crossgen?
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
And all that without a showcase yet.
"easing away" is actually being too nice considering that maybe one of those will be on PS4 (if Factions is indeed a PS4 game as well).
Outside of maybe Factions, not a single one of them is cross-gen.
"easing away" is actually being too nice considering that maybe one of those will be on PS4 (if Factions is indeed a PS4 game as well).
Outside of maybe Factions, not a single one of them is cross-gen.
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remember_spinal
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I think the only game we know for certain will be cross-gen is MLB The Show
Everything else with set releases is current gen only, 1st and 3rd party
Everything else with set releases is current gen only, 1st and 3rd party
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Dick Jones
Gold Member
That's about the games in general coming to PS5. This is about how Sony is moving away from cross gen, both first party and partnerships. Different topics
Pelta88
Member
I think someone from the Kinda Funny team said "they heard" factions was prioritizing PS5 first with last gen to follow but that's still unconfirmed.
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
That's not what this topic is about.
You could've gotten that by reading the OP instead of running towards the "laughing" emoji when facts were stated there btw.
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remember_spinal
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It would be dumb for them to make Factions cross-gen in 2023+, people are playing PS4 less and less these days and im sure they have the data to back it up which is why even Horizon’s DLC is PS5 only.
PS5 and PC is where the vast majority of the fanbase thats gonna be playing this game are. Especially as more time goes on. It made sense with single player stuff as they want the frontloaded sales but a game thats meant to exist for years might as well drop it.
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Tiago Rodrigues
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I'm almost sure Factions will be cross gen tbh. The game started development on the PS4. Even if like only 25% of all players are on PS4 it's still a lot.
The one thing that makes me think there's the possibility of not supporting the PS4 is that then they would need to support that version for like 3 or 4 years when the PS4 is like 13 years old, lol.
Ghost of Caelid
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Hopefully these games utilize what the PS5's power to do something new with these experiences outside of just better performance better graphics. Push the scope not just the graphics. Spiderman 2 will be a good idea of how Sony's philosophy on game design may change or stay the same...might be Spiderman 1 with prettier graphics bigger set pieces or maybe they improve on NYC, make it feel more lived in, expand the scope etc. Heres to hoping.
yurinka
Member
The most recent numbers they shared was around 80-90 million PS4 monthly active users. Way more than the ones they have on PS5.
Dick Jones
Gold Member
Jim Ryan got slated for the same mindset for GT/Ragnarok and HFW
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Yes, but the fewer threads about PlayStation games, the better it is
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Putonahappyface
Gold Member
Optimistic mode activated.
remember_spinal
Banned
Thats why it won’t happen. Its extra development to get it to run on past gen consoles, even if in design its a ps4 game actually having to support it for years to come would just add unnecessary hardships to future development.
The same reason games like Gotham Knights and Plague Tale dropped last gen even feeling like last gen games in design
TheGodfather07
Member
We need everybody to move on. Not just sony.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
I'm unreasonably hyped for Horizon Burning Shores.
Flying combat + Metal Devil =
Flying combat + Metal Devil =
remember_spinal
Banned
And are those users buying new games and spending money in games or are they just playing Fortnite, last years 2k/FIFA, and watching netflix?
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
Lupin25
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Beyond a couple indies, their next-gen only games have been my favorite gaming experiences so far this gen (Returnal & Astro’s Playroom).
HFW & God of War Ragnarök felt like only a taste of NG from a graphical and performance standpoint (being tethered to the PS4 hardware and all still).
Spider-Man 2 should be one of the first generation defining next-gen only games, I’m not expecting anything less from Insomniac and a system-selling IP. It was one of the first Sony chose to demonstratively preview the PS5’s capabilities.
HFW & God of War Ragnarök felt like only a taste of NG from a graphical and performance standpoint (being tethered to the PS4 hardware and all still).
Spider-Man 2 should be one of the first generation defining next-gen only games, I’m not expecting anything less from Insomniac and a system-selling IP. It was one of the first Sony chose to demonstratively preview the PS5’s capabilities.
Dick Jones
Gold Member
Sorry... I'll rephrase my commentYes, but the fewer threads about PlayStation games, the better it is
Can't wait for these games to come to Gamepass so I don't have to buy them. But when it comes to Gamepass I'll buy it to support the devs. #greatlogic
mansoor1980
Gold Member
is spiderman 2 a confirmed next year release?
im sure there are a few more surprises for next year
im sure there are a few more surprises for next year
yurinka
Member
Watch this Sony slice: two thirds of the money made in PSN store revenue (which is 80% of their game revenue, being the other 20% retail game sales) during the previous fiscal year was made on PS4
The PSN rankings are -outside next gen only games- pretty similar between PS4 and PS5.
Regarding which part of that PS4 revenue is coming from F2P, it increased from a 5% in launch year to 25% in the last year. So the other 75% comes from paid games and subs.
Source of both slides is the official May 27th, 2022 report of the previous FY: https://www.sony.com/en/SonyInfo/IR/library/presen/irday/pdf/2022/presen_E.pdf
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remember_spinal
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I mean the contrary has been being reported, that ps4 users are engaging less with gaming
https://www.videogameschronicle.com...early-2-million-subscribers-since-its-revamp/
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Games of Today
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Because none of the studios have made an actual PS5 game yet. Hopefully Ghost of Tsushima 2 will take a major advantage of RT reflections and RTGI. That game would would be able to flawlessly run with it because of it's simple texturing and art direction.
Games of Today
Member
Are you telling me that the Horizon Burning Shores DLC is for PS5 only?
Pelta88
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fart town usa
Gold Member
Great thread and great video, had no clue that Fatal Frame 4 is getting rereleased. I own the Japanese copy and have it set up on the Wii for translation purposes but it's so much more convenient to play it on a modern console. Stoked for its release in March.
OT: I'm generally fine with cross-gen releases, it makes complete sense to support old hardware that has a massive audience. However, I'll be glad to see more focus on optimizing the PS5 and what it can truly do. I feel like we've only scratched the surface.
ChiefDada
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Games of Today
Member
I just looked it up and apparently it is! I'm glad I have a PS5.
Heimdall_Xtreme
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Tiago Rodrigues
Member
We'll see.
Markio128
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64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
the others are so good with their visuals they don't need it
actually, Polyphony uses it for GT7's replay mode
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Kokoloko85
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Factions 2 will probably be cross gen if its coming to PC too. And I think Online/Gaas games will be coming to PC day 1
Markio128
Member
Please enlighten us with a list of innovative games for 2023 then.
I think PSVR2 may have that covered for Sony tbh.
yurinka
Member
Absolutely nothing posted in that article reports the contrary of what I said.
Which btw is a highly cherrypicked text on VGC's side: Sony had a small decline in MAU and PS+ subs (these numbers are for PS5 and PS4 combined, not only PS4) but had a way bigger, quite huge increase in PS Plus revenue. Which resulted to be the highest ever for any game subs of any console maker (not sure if for any quarter, but at least is the biggest Q2 ever).
And the numbers I posted are for an entire fiscal year, the ones of the articles from a single quarter, the Q2 that traditionally is one the weakest ones of the year. The next quarter (Q3) is by far the best one of the year, so if you only look at a single quarter number, you'll see there big increases.
PS4 engagament obviously will slowly decrease as they keep migrating to PS5, and as more PS5 become available in the stores, the faster it will decrease. So now that shipments are starting to highly increase the PS4 engament will decrease faster.
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MasterCornholio
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So a wii wii wii moment for you?
remember_spinal
Banned
The point is, that PS4 users are on the decline and PS5 users are on the incline and you can multiply that exponentially with every passing season the PS5 stock improves. If you want to believe the PS5 will continue to be a big seller for the next several years that is.
It makes no sense to support a past gen console after 2023
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gothmog
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Remember that if you don't like a technology like VR or think that every Sony first party game is a "walking simulator" then PlayStation has no games.
Punished Miku
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Their sales split on PS4 / PS5 should have given them all the assurance they need that they can move on by now. Guess we'll see. GAAS games having a wide audience makes sense. I don't personally care much either way if its cross-gen or not.
EverydayBeast
thinks Halo Infinite is a new graphical benchmark
Good memories with the ps4 the great part of gaming is you upgrade and truth be told the games are the exact same until year 5 or 6 of a gen when developers start putting their skills together.
ToTTenTranz
Banned
Which of these are PS5 only?With the unconfirmed exception of TLOU Factions, PlayStation has moved to prioritizing the PS5 experience first and foremost for it's 2023 releases.
Delays not withstanding, PlayStation's 2023 lineup looks incredible.
Silent Hill, Forspoken, Spider-Man 2 and Stellar Blade? I'm not sure if FFVII Rebirth is crossplatform or not.
