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[XiaNaphryz]

Just played another turbo 5-table SNG, I managed to win this one though. Only one hand stood out to me as possibly discussion worthy as it was a pretty straightforward tourney overall.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 1.1 Tournament, 1000/2000 Blinds 100 Ante (3 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com



Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

SB: 32,002.00
Hero (BB): 17,020.00
BTN: 18,478.00

SB posts ante 100.00, Hero posts ante 100.00, BTN posts ante 100.00, SB posts SB 1,000.00, Hero posts BB 2,000.00

Pre Flop: (3300.00) Hero has T

9

BTN calls 2,000.00, SB calls 1,000.00, Hero checks

Flop: (6300.00, 3 players) 6

7

8

SB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets 4,000.00, fold, Hero calls 4,000.00

Turn: (14300.00, 2 players) 7

Hero checks, BTN bets 6,000.00, Hero calls 6,000.00

River: (26300.00, 2 players) A

Hero bets 4,920.00 and is all-in, fold

Hero shows T

9

(Straight, Ten High)
Hero wins 26,300.00

Only question I have is should I have raised all-in on the turn? Or does it really matter since it's likely the guy would've folded anyway?

 

[cubanb]

Just played another turbo 5-table SNG, I managed to win this one though. Only one hand stood out to me as possibly discussion worthy as it was a pretty straightforward tourney overall.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 1.1 Tournament, 1000/2000 Blinds 100 Ante (3 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com



Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

SB: 32,002.00
Hero (BB): 17,020.00
BTN: 18,478.00

SB posts ante 100.00, Hero posts ante 100.00, BTN posts ante 100.00, SB posts SB 1,000.00, Hero posts BB 2,000.00

Pre Flop: (3300.00) Hero has T

9

BTN calls 2,000.00, SB calls 1,000.00, Hero checks

Flop: (6300.00, 3 players) 6

7

8

SB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets 4,000.00, fold, Hero calls 4,000.00

Turn: (14300.00, 2 players) 7

Hero checks, BTN bets 6,000.00, Hero calls 6,000.00

River: (26300.00, 2 players) A

Hero bets 4,920.00 and is all-in, fold

Hero shows T

9

(Straight, Ten High)
Hero wins 26,300.00

Only question I have is should I have raised all-in on the turn? Or does it really matter since it's likely the guy would've folded anyway?

Don't kick yourself over that one. He was folding either way. The only way you could have extracted more was small raises on the turn and river and even then they would have probably folded.

Some raise should have been made on the turn to make them pay for any flush draw, but you ended up ok.

 

[Inflammable Slinky]

Flopped straight

What was your read on the villain? Did you have a HUD running? Absent reads, just shove the turn. He could easily be drawing to a flush and you don't want him to bail on a busted draw. On the flip side, there are plenty of overpairs in his range that shut down on a bunch of river cards.

To be honest, I hate hate hate hate hate the turn check. You need to donklead this turn just because he will x behind so many times with a FD and some of the time he will get there on the river. Over times, he'll have something like TT or JJ that is all too happy to check to showdown.

So lead for about 8k and fistpump call if he shoves over you.

EDIT: Hey, are we gonna have a game tomorrow?

 

[XiaNaphryz]

What was your read on the villain? Did you have a HUD running? Absent reads, just shove the turn. He could easily be drawing to a flush and you don't want him to bail on a busted draw. On the flip side, there are plenty of overpairs in his range that shut down on a bunch of river cards.

To be honest, I hate hate hate hate hate the turn check. You need to donklead this turn just because he will x behind so many times with a FD and some of the time he will get there on the river. Over times, he'll have something like TT or JJ that is all too happy to check to showdown.

So lead for about 8k and fistpump call if he shoves over you.

EDIT: Hey, are we gonna have a game tomorrow?

I only had 30 hands worth of data on him, he was running about 30/10 and had never 3-bet to that point.

I agree the turn check was sketchy, but up to that point when he had bet out on the flop when checked to, he always followed up on the turn if he got a call so I was just going on a read.

No idea if there's a game later today or not. Doesn't look like it?

 

[Centurion]

anyone here willing to transfer $10 to me on fulltilt?

edit: nm, got it!

 

[Inflammable Slinky]

I only had 30 hands worth of data on him, he was running about 30/10 and had never 3-bet to that point.

I agree the turn check was sketchy, but up to that point when he had bet out on the flop when checked to, he always followed up on the turn if he got a call so I was just going on a read.

No idea if there's a game later today or not. Doesn't look like it?

Well if he always double barrels, then the turn check is okay, but you should still shove over.

As it is, I can't make sense of his line since he has freaking 2 BBs left.

 

[XiaNaphryz]

Well if he always double barrels, then the turn check is okay, but you should still shove over.

As it is, I can't make sense of his line since he has freaking 2 BBs left.

Yeah, no idea why he folded at the end with the amount he had left.

 

[VALIS]

Anyone want to play now/tonight?

 

[Inflammable Slinky]

Is zimbu here? We could get a quick SNG going on PS.

Xia, what converter do you use, I can't get a format to work for this forum out of that hand converter tool.

 

[ShallNoiseUpon]

Alright PokerGAF, I just started play a few weeks ago and had a question about HUDs -- what kind of sample (in terms of number of hands) should I have on another player before I start taking stats into consideration?

 

[Inflammable Slinky]

Alright PokerGAF, I just started play a few weeks ago and had a question about HUDs -- what kind of sample (in terms of number of hands) should I have on another player before I start taking stats into consideration?

40 hands should give you a rough idea on VPIP/PFR. 100 hands and you can start to pay attention to cbet and steal tendencies. I wouldn't put too much stock into 3bet without at least 200 hands (although if they're doiing it like 50% then that's different)

 

[XiaNaphryz]

Is zimbu here? We could get a quick SNG going on PS.

Xia, what converter do you use, I can't get a format to work for this forum out of that hand converter tool.

I do a couple things. I use PT3's on hand converter as a base, using it's 2+2 forum output as the format. I then do a search/replace to change the tag to {highlight} and tags to {/highlight} (the highlight tags should obviously be using [] brackets, but I used the {} so the board won't actually register them).

I then run the hand through the hand converter at FlopTurnRiver to get the animated gif. I also use their images for the suits, so I then go back to my PT3 base and search/replace the suits (listed as :spade: and :heart:, etc.) with the img tag urls from FTR.

It's easier for me to do it this way than going from FTR's UBB output and cleaning that up for GAF, as there's more UBB tags that FTR outputs that aren't supported here.

 

[DukeSucks]

Quick Links:

www.twoplustwo.com- Huge poker site, lots of strategy threads and and community in general

great site, lots of OT forums too

 

[ShallNoiseUpon]

Speaking of 2+2 -- this thread has helped me a bit (being that I am straight up awful) http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/78/micro-stakes-full-ring/complete-guide-beating-micros-430637/

 

[edbrat]

ah online poker, its been a while since my last obsessive streak but I love it.

Anyway my two cents if anyone is interested: if you are starting out focus on your game and leave the HUD stuff till later, too much information to process during a hand before you are confident in your own game is unlikely to help most people. Use tracking software so you can analyse your hand histories. Don't multitable unless you are a poker demon - if you are unsure whether you are or not, you almost certainly are not....yet Read relevant threads on twoplustwo and analysis of hand histories.

Also reading books (Harrington and David Sklansky are my favourites) and working at your game systematically will put you above a significant percentage of players esp at low limits. Personally I feel at microlimits people don't play rationally and it can be hard to improve your game and easy to let bad habits creep in. Focus on one type of poker which you enjoy and work at it - personally I started out with limit hold em cash games while I was getting my head around poker and moved on to NLHE STTs when I was more confident. I don't play NLHE cash games because I just don't believe I have the temperament.

Finding a website, limits and time of day where you are consistently profitable can also help. Had some good streaks playing just after pub chucking out time in the UK on the weekends when some terrible players come home loaded and seemingly wanted to lose money. Find a site, game, limits and time of day at which you are consistently profitable and drink deeply from the well. Don't move up limits until you are crushing the opposition at your current limits. Above all, have fun. Its tricky to apply yourself to something unless you enjoy it and losing money when you don't know whats going on is a crappy experience.

 

[K.Jack]

ah online poker, its been a while since my last obsessive streak but I love it.

Anyway my two cents if anyone is interested: if you are starting out focus on your game and leave the HUD stuff till later, too much information to process during a hand before you are confident in your own game is unlikely to help most people. Use tracking software so you can analyse your hand histories. Don't multitable unless you are a poker demon - if you are unsure whether you are or not, you almost certainly are not....yet Read relevant threads on twoplustwo and analysis of hand histories.

Also reading books (Harrington and David Sklansky are my favourites) and working at your game systematically will put you above a significant percentage of players esp at low limits. Personally I feel at microlimits people don't play rationally and it can be hard to improve your game and easy to let bad habits creep in. Focus on one type of poker which you enjoy and work at it - personally I started out with limit hold em cash games while I was getting my head around poker and moved on to NLHE STTs when I was more confident. I don't play NLHE cash games because I just don't believe I have the temperament.

Finding a website, limits and time of day where you are consistently profitable can also help. Had some good streaks playing just after pub chucking out time in the UK on the weekends when some terrible players come home loaded and seemingly wanted to lose money. Find a site, game, limits and time of day at which you are consistently profitable and drink deeply from the well. Don't move up limits until you are crushing the opposition at your current limits. Above all, have fun. Its tricky to apply yourself to something unless you enjoy it and losing money when you don't know whats going on is a crappy experience.

The bolded is so true.

Get good enough to trust yourself, before you trust the # a HUD spews at you.

 

[VALIS]

The bolded is so true.

Get good enough to trust yourself, before you trust the # a HUD spews at you.

Agreed. I don't use that stuff at all. Since I play more "in person" poker than online, and for higher stakes, I never wanted to become even slightly reliant on tools that I'm not going to have with me when it really matters.

 

[Incendiary]

Went to Penn National this weekend with my dad. Spent a lot of time doing slots and table games and lost a lot of money that way. There aren't any tournaments on the weekend there (I'm not sure why, they only do tourneys Mon-Fri at noon and Thurs/Fri night games) but eventually I bit and played around at a 1-2 No Limit table for an hour or two. I didn't do too badly all things considered, I managed to come out ahead instead of losing money like I did at everything else.

The biggest event of the night was when I went against one guy with a pair of Jacks (highest possible pair on the table, one in my pocket one on the flop) and flipped a third Jack on the river. He checked and I bet a bunch, so he folded. Now I decided to play mind games and didn't flip my cards. I was hoping to make him think I was bluffing and later capitalize if we went head-to-head again, but I never got an opportunity. However, he was pretty vocally pissed about me not flipping. Etiquette wise, did I do anything wrong? I don't think I did, but I haven't played much at casinos so I wanted to make sure.

 

[K.Jack]

Lol you do not flip on a bet, fold. You are not being rude, if he asked, and you said no.

I hope you gave him a smug ass face.

 

[NEOPARADIGM]

You should have mucked your jack and showed him the other one.

 

[Incendiary]

I hope you gave him a smug ass face.

I'm pretty sure that's the only kind of face I have.

 

[Zoe]

Hmm, gonna keep tabs on this thread. I've started playing at a friend's place, but we've only played for money once ($5 buy-in, nothing big). I want to try out online, but I'm too chicken...

 

[Mister Zimbu]

Etiquette wise, did I do anything wrong? I don't think I did, but I haven't played much at casinos so I wanted to make sure.

Absolutely not. You're expected to not show if everybody else folds. They want to see if you have it? They have to pay.

 

[XiaNaphryz]

Absolutely not. You're expected to not show if everybody else folds. They want to see if you have it? They have to pay.

Yep. Just remember most cardrooms follow the "show one, show all" rule in case you do show your cards to someone.

 

[K.Jack]

Hmm, gonna keep tabs on this thread. I've started playing at a friend's place, but we've only played for money once ($5 buy-in, nothing big). I want to try out online, but I'm too chicken...

Just sign up at Pokerstars.com, and get comfortable in the Play Money games. That's where I started out, and I played for like a year, before I was ready to deposit money.

 

[Cooter]

So I'm in the process of switching from TAG to LAG. Through 4,000 hands at 25NL 6-max i'm down $50. Not too bad actually all things considered. Right now I'm 21/16/3.5. It's tricky playing so many hands and navigating your way through the pots but I definitely see how this can be more profitable once you get it,dialed in. Right now I'm having the most trouble with my Cbet % and just how much I need to be doing it. Any seasoned LAG players have any advice?

 

[Inflammable Slinky]

So I'm in the process of switching from TAG to LAG. Through 4,000 hands at 25NL 6-max i'm down $50. Not too bad actually all things considered. Right now I'm 21/16/3.5. It's tricky playing so many hands and navigating your way through the pots but I definitely see how this can be more profitable once you get it,dialed in. Right now I'm having the most trouble with my Cbet % and just how much I need to be doing it. Any seasoned LAG players have any advice?

Uh, in all honesty 21/16 is standard TAG at 6max. a LAG would run something like 30-35.

What actually has been helping me with my cbet decisions is playing a good amount of Rush poker. Normally I hate it, and I do think its way more +EV for me to do regular 6max, but rapid succession of hands really does teach you what flop textures are good for aggression.

Just sign up at Pokerstars.com, and get comfortable in the Play Money games. That's where I started out, and I played for like a year, before I was ready to deposit money.

I'd honestly dispute this advice. Sure, play money is fine if you really don't have any idea how to play poker (as in, you don't know the rules) but you won't learn any good habits because you need the stakes to mean something.

 

[Moppet13]

You know I hated the guy at first but then I read his book and learned a lot. He still is a baby at the tables but I think it would just make me laugh if I were at his table. At the end of the day he is a good guy that wants to help people out. He's just a sore loser.

And what is funny is a lot of the stuff that beats him is in his book. So people are just using shit he taught them, against him! haha

I had no idea he even wrote a book, my favorite thing was seeing him cry at a WSOP table when he placed 6th against some young kid and having to sign a shirt for the guy. How was the book?

 

[Inflammable Slinky]

I had no idea he even wrote a book, my favorite thing was seeing him cry at a WSOP table when he placed 6th against some young kid and having to sign a shirt for the guy. How was the book?

Kind of outdated by now. It was okay when it came out, but for tournaments its way better to read Moshman's SnG advanced strategy and Kill Everyone

 

[Silphonica]

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That site will also track the account you make and give you points based on rake (signing up for fulltilt also gives back a very nice rakeback scheme) and you can unlock a lot more content with the more points you earn.

With the free $50 you have to pass the test after reading a few small articles (or keep the articles open as you do the test), small price to pay to get money to start playing online! (also using fake chips is pointless as it's not the same as playnig with money)

(Note: That is my referral link, it makes no difference to you guys signing up, just means that if you earn a certain number of points on that site, i'll get little bonuses to my bankroll )

 

[XiaNaphryz]

Holy shit, I just managed to end 4th in one of those crazy 2 cent 990 player hyper-turbos. An hour of push or fold netted me $2.20, lol.

For those of you who aren't familiar with a hyper-turbo, the blinds basically double every 3 minutes, there's antes from the start that also go up pretty fast (10, 20, 40, 80, 120, 160, 240, 320, 400, 600, 800, 1200, 1600, 2000, etc), and you only start with 10 BBs worth of chips. So from the start you're basically in all-in or fold mode. Pretty much all luck-driven!

Here are the more lulz-worthy hands, starting from the very first hand dealt:

PokerStars - $0.02+$0|25/50 NL (10 max) - Holdem - 10 players
http://www.pokertracker.com]Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BTN: 500.00
SB: 500.00
BB: 500.00
UTG: 500.00
UTG+1: 500.00
MP: 500.00
MP+1: 500.00
MP+2: 500.00
Hero (LP): 500.00
CO: 500.00

BTN posts ante 10.00, SB posts ante 10.00, BB posts ante 10.00, UTG posts ante 10.00, UTG+1 posts ante 10.00, MP posts ante 10.00, MP+1 posts ante 10.00, MP+2 posts ante 10.00, Hero posts ante 10.00, CO posts ante 10.00, SB posts SB 25.00, BB posts BB 50.00

Pre Flop: (175.00) Hero has K

Q

fold, fold, MP calls 50.00, MP+1 raises to 490.00 and is all-in, fold, Hero calls 490.00 and is all-in, fold, fold, SB calls 465.00 and is all-in, BB calls 440.00 and is all-in, MP calls 440.00 and is all-in

Flop: (2550.00, 5 players) Q

Q

4

Turn: (2550.00, 5 players) 8

River: (2550.00, 5 players) J

SB shows J

8

(Two Pair, Queens and Jacks) (PreFlop 18%, Flop 0%, Turn 0%)
BB shows K

4

(Two Pair, Queens and Fours) (PreFlop 8%, Flop 0%, Turn 0%)
MP shows 5

4

(Two Pair, Queens and Fours) (PreFlop 28%, Flop 0%, Turn 0%)
MP+1 shows K

J

(Two Pair, Queens and Jacks) (PreFlop 17%, Flop 8%, Turn 0%)
Hero shows K

Q

(Three of a Kind, Queens) (PreFlop 29%, Flop 92%, Turn 100%)
Hero wins 2,550.00

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PokerStars - $0.02+$0|1000/2000 NL (10 max) - Holdem - 10 players
http://www.pokertracker.com]Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

MP+1: 985.00
Hero (MP+2): 7,529.00
LP: 23,174.00
CO: 1,204.00
BTN: 13,240.00
SB: 12,800.00
BB: 22,443.00
UTG: 18,490.00
UTG+1: 6,890.00
MP: 6,605.00

MP+1 posts ante 400.00, Hero posts ante 400.00, LP posts ante 400.00, CO posts ante 400.00, BTN posts ante 400.00, SB posts ante 400.00, BB posts ante 400.00, UTG posts ante 400.00, UTG+1 posts ante 400.00, MP posts ante 400.00, SB posts SB 1,000.00, BB posts BB 2,000.00

Pre Flop: (7000.00) Hero has K

Q

UTG calls 2,000.00, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 7,129.00 and is all-in, fold, fold, BTN calls 7,129.00, fold, fold, UTG calls 5,129.00

Flop: (28387.00, 3 players) Q

9

9

UTG checks, BTN checks

Turn: (28387.00, 3 players) Q

UTG checks, BTN checks

River: (28387.00, 3 players) J

UTG bets 2,000.00, fold

UTG shows A

K

(Two Pair, Queens and Nines) (PreFlop 75%, Flop 14%, Turn 0%)
Hero shows K

Q

(Full House, Queens full of Nines) (PreFlop 25%, Flop 86%, Turn 100%)
Hero wins 28,387.00

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PokerStars - $0.02+$0|2000/4000 NL (10 max) - Holdem - 10 players
http://www.pokertracker.com]Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BTN: 2,565.00
Hero (SB): 29,737.00
BB: 20,974.00
UTG: 15,500.00
UTG+1: 13,642.00
MP: 7,639.00
MP+1: 9,982.00
MP+2: 23,327.00
LP: 22,235.00
CO: 13,440.00

BTN posts ante 800.00, Hero posts ante 800.00, BB posts ante 800.00, UTG posts ante 800.00, UTG+1 posts ante 800.00, MP posts ante 800.00, MP+1 posts ante 800.00, MP+2 posts ante 800.00, LP posts ante 800.00, CO posts ante 800.00, Hero posts SB 2,000.00, BB posts BB 4,000.00

Pre Flop: (14000.00) Hero has K

K

UTG raises to 8,000.00, fold, fold, fold, fold, LP raises to 21,435.00 and is all-in, fold, BTN calls 1,765.00 and is all-in, Hero raises to 28,937.00 and is all-in, fold, UTG calls 6,700.00 and is all-in

Flop: (71335.00, 4 players) 3

T

7

Turn: (71335.00, 4 players) T

River: (71335.00, 4 players) 9

Hero shows K

K

(Two Pair, Kings and Tens) (PreFlop 56%, Flop 67%, Turn 90%)
LP shows A

J

(One Pair, Tens) (PreFlop 9%, Flop 3%, Turn 0%)
UTG shows Q

A

(One Pair, Tens) (PreFlop 16%, Flop 8%, Turn 5%)
BTN shows 8

7

(Two Pair, Tens and Sevens) (PreFlop 19%, Flop 22%, Turn 5%)
Hero wins 71,335.00

 

[K.Jack]

I'd honestly dispute this advice. Sure, play money is fine if you really don't have any idea how to play poker (as in, you don't know the rules) but you won't learn any good habits because you need the stakes to mean something.

Not to get good, just to get comfortable with the idea of digital poker.

 

[tmdorsey]

Recently got away from tourneys and started playing fixed limit .25/.50 cash games. Liking the cash games better overall and my bankroll is seeming to last longer than in the touneys. Kinda missing the tourneys. I liked occassionaly making it through 20 or so players to a final table with a chance at a decent cash prize.

 

[diamondstar]

I had no idea he even wrote a book, my favorite thing was seeing him cry at a WSOP table when he placed 6th against some young kid and having to sign a shirt for the guy. How was the book?

The book was great. The best part is reading his journey about how he got to where he is now. I picked up a few tricks that I use now. Now I'm reading Harrington on Hold em'.

 

[Moppet13]

The book was great. The best part is reading his journey about how he got to where he is now. I picked up a few tricks that I use now. Now I'm reading Harrington on Hold em'.

I guess I'll pick it up then if time permits, I'm about 2/3 the way through Harrington on Hold em. It's a pretty good book it helps you nail down the fundamentals and importance of betting more than anything.

Edit: Which book exactly of his did you get?

 

[Moppet13]

Recently got away from tourneys and started playing fixed limit .25/.50 cash games. Liking the cash games better overall and my bankroll is seeming to last longer than in the touneys. Kinda missing the tourneys. I liked occassionaly making it through 20 or so players to a final table with a chance at a decent cash prize.

Have you tried just playing table games? I use to play tournies but the best I ever got was about 137/3500 which isn't even a money spot. If you play No Limit then you'll probably foul up some where along the line with your inability to effectively bluff on bad pot odds. Table games are pretty much 1 table tournaments.

 

[MrPing1000]

got into the sunday million on pokerstars via sats... twice lol. Got me some spacebucks to play with wahey.

 

[K.Jack]

got into the sunday million on pokerstars via sats... twice lol. Got me some spacebucks to play with wahey.

How much does the T$ sell for?

 

[diamondstar]

I guess I'll pick it up then if time permits, I'm about 2/3 the way through Harrington on Hold em. It's a pretty good book it helps you nail down the fundamentals and importance of betting more than anything.

Edit: Which book exactly of his did you get?

Pretty sure it was this one.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001S32BKA/?tag=neogaf0e-20

 

[tmdorsey]

Have you tried just playing table games? I use to play tournies but the best I ever got was about 137/3500 which isn't even a money spot. If you play No Limit then you'll probably foul up some where along the line with your inability to effectively bluff on bad pot odds. Table games are pretty much 1 table tournaments.

I'm not sure. I've done the SnG multi-table games. Usually just the 27/3-table ones. Is that the same thing as the table games?

 

[NEOPARADIGM]

Not like I've read a ton of books (maybe six or seven total), but I really liked Phil Gordon's Green and Blue books.

 

[K.Jack]

I'm not sure. I've done the SnG multi-table games. Usually just the 27/3-table ones. Is that the same thing as the table games?

The 9-man SNGs might be a good change of pace, for you.

 

[tmdorsey]

The 9-man SNGs might be a good change of pace, for you.

Will have a go at these, thanks.

 

[Moppet13]

I'm not sure. I've done the SnG multi-table games. Usually just the 27/3-table ones. Is that the same thing as the table games?

It's pretty much SnG Multi table. Just you know one table. I find it's easier to come out with money when 2/6 or 3/9/ That and it's easier to keep track of who you're playing with if you know what I mean.

 

[Moppet13]

Kind of outdated by now. It was okay when it came out, but for tournaments its way better to read Moshman's SnG advanced strategy and Kill Everyone

Really? Kill Everyone? I had seen it a few times but it just sounded so silly.

 

[diamondstar]

It's pretty much SnG Multi table. Just you know one table. I find it's easier to come out with money when 2/6 or 3/9/ That and it's easier to keep track of who you're playing with if you know what I mean.

Yea I'm still trying to find a table where I feel comfortable making consistent money(if that is possible). So far I've done my best doing the 2.25 on demand multi-table on Full tilt. It's usually around 200 or more participants and they pay as far as 27th place. I can manage to make the money pretty consistently and have made the final 9 four times and made final 6 in a six-man. I guess I like the MTT's because you have a chance to make a huge profit with little buy-in.

I just don't think I have the patience for grinding the micros. Single table SNG's don't pay enough for me to grind for 1-2 hours. Heads up is fun but you can lose money fast but shows your skill. I think if I played a bunch of those then I may be able to make some good money.

What about ya'll? What game do you make your money on consistently?

 

[K.Jack]

Single table SNG's don't pay enough for me to grind for 1-2 hours.

That's why you play 4 at a time, if not more.

 

[diamondstar]

That's why you play 4 at a time, if not more.

Yea that may be the way to go. When I tried it previously I think I made the money 7/10 times. Won 2, second 3 times and third 2 times. So I may go back to that method.

 

[K.Jack]

FTP players should read this thread, now.

 

[XiaNaphryz]

Yea I'm still trying to find a table where I feel comfortable making consistent money(if that is possible). So far I've done my best doing the 2.25 on demand multi-table on Full tilt. It's usually around 200 or more participants and they pay as far as 27th place. I can manage to make the money pretty consistently and have made the final 9 four times and made final 6 in a six-man. I guess I like the MTT's because you have a chance to make a huge profit with little buy-in.

I just don't think I have the patience for grinding the micros. Single table SNG's don't pay enough for me to grind for 1-2 hours. Heads up is fun but you can lose money fast but shows your skill. I think if I played a bunch of those then I may be able to make some good money.

What about ya'll? What game do you make your money on consistently?

With the high variance of large field tourneys, and lower payouts of single or 2 table tourneys, I like to go for the 4-20 table MTTs. I find I make the money a decent % of the time in those, with the occasional win.