So, maybe it's too early to tell, but this game may really achieve a cult hit status. At the end of the day, critical reception isn't really that important (unless there's some shady New Vegas-style deal behind the developer-publisher contract, but I hope that's not the case here), I just wish the developer the game sells well enough. They deserve it.
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The Surge |OT| Live Die Repeat
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XANDER CAGE
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YOU CANNOT MISS
WHAT YOU HAVEN'T SEEN BEFORE
WHAT YOU HAVEN'T SEEN BEFORE
Sanctuary
Member
I just listened to a song with those very lyrics. Except they weren't shouting.
Blitzrules240
Banned
Farm as much as you can because when you hit the boss, whoa nellie.I keep farming the first area haha too scared to go anywhere new with more than 1500+ tech scrap.
This is gonna take a while
Just don't go through a door with a yellow forcefield on it...you won't be able to recover scrap if you die...speaking from experience.
So... I've never really given a soulsbourne type game a fair chance. I've always found them frustrating to play, and the oppressive atmospheres don't help me out much. Just way too stressful. This comes around and the sci-fi setting appeals to me much more, so I'm giving it a shot.
2 hours in - I'm learning the ropes and grinding that first area, but this is the first time a soulsbourne game has actually been fun for me. I'm almost waiting for some kind of rage-quit inducing difficulty spike to pop up, but for now, it's comfortably challenging.
2 hours in - I'm learning the ropes and grinding that first area, but this is the first time a soulsbourne game has actually been fun for me. I'm almost waiting for some kind of rage-quit inducing difficulty spike to pop up, but for now, it's comfortably challenging.
Yes
I'd describe it as very labyrinth like. You'll often find yourself with three or four different paths to check out. You'll also unlock several shortcuts back to the medbay in each level and the levels are very large.
You definitely need to map out the area in your mind as you progress because it can get quite complicated.
Coriolanus
Banned
that's why you can heal pretty much anytime. But yes.
Good thing his pattern is super basic.
Yarp, is quite impressive how much the maps fold into themselves. Kinda wish that Souls had kept that design element throughout every game.
supervillain
Member
Finally beat the 4th boss, what a fight!
Game is a joy to play and very rewarding.
Game is a joy to play and very rewarding.
Niceguydan8
Member
I don't know what technical issues you had with that particular boss but there are definitely tells for the moves, and unless you lock yourself in a long animation, they are very easy to dodge.
I died twice to the boss and absolutely wrecked him the third time. No luck involved. It just requires the player to pay a bit of attention.
semiconscious
Member
question: can you summon help?...
Its a single player game so nope.
And yet some reviews mention "bad level design". I don't know what to think.
semiconscious
Member
This game has more labyrinth like structure with paths that fold onto itself than Souls games. Sometimes you'll end up finding shortcut and end up next to a medbay and be like "Huh? There was a shortcut here?"
You definitely have to keep an image of the map's paths and the layout in your head..more so than Souls games.
You definitely have to keep an image of the map's paths and the layout in your head..more so than Souls games.
Intheflorsh
Banned
I've been sticking to the vibrocutter (basically just a sword), but I have to say some of the larger weapons are fun to use and normally I hate them in souls games.
And that's what makes the levels so great
Ok this is harder than I was expecting -.-
I'm so used to abusing roll/dodge in Souls games and that really isn't as effective here. I'm only in the second area but already it's forcing me to learn each enemy's attacks, think about which of my moves to use and when. I was getting wrecked for a while but I'm making progress again now.
Really like the complexity/size of area 2. Usually don't have any problem keeping a mental map of an area, but this is a delightful mess to keep track of.
The targetting/dismemberment system is... ok. I think I like the idea more than the execution. Maybe with later enemy types it will become more relevant.
First impressions: game is great! Slower than LotF, but that might be because I've gone for the slowest possible build, will try a faster armour set sometime and see how much difference it makes. Only complaint so far is the first boss is quite buggy (and his
attack is a bit lame/cheesy).
I'm so used to abusing roll/dodge in Souls games and that really isn't as effective here. I'm only in the second area but already it's forcing me to learn each enemy's attacks, think about which of my moves to use and when. I was getting wrecked for a while but I'm making progress again now.
Really like the complexity/size of area 2. Usually don't have any problem keeping a mental map of an area, but this is a delightful mess to keep track of.
The targetting/dismemberment system is... ok. I think I like the idea more than the execution. Maybe with later enemy types it will become more relevant.
First impressions: game is great! Slower than LotF, but that might be because I've gone for the slowest possible build, will try a faster armour set sometime and see how much difference it makes. Only complaint so far is the first boss is quite buggy (and his
missile
I keep farming the first area haha too scared to go anywhere new with more than 1500+ tech scrap.
This is gonna take a while
I'm the opposite. I think the first achievement I got was for killing a boss with 20,000+ scrap.
N° 2048
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Sanctuary
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I keep farming the first area haha too scared to go anywhere new with more than 1500+ tech scrap.
This is gonna take a while
Why? You can simply bank all of the scrap you would be saving towards leveling anyway, and only keep on you what you need to save up enough for upgrading gear. Plus, once you've unlocked enough "shortcuts" (some in this game are illogical, but whatever), I'm not even sure you can accrue more than 1500 in one run.
It's servicable. I don't really understand the glowing praise it seems to be getting however, aside from "Oh, it's another new soulsish kind of game" right now. There's a whole lot of questionable design choices, and it often seems like the developers wanted to copy a Souls game without fully understanding what makes those games work as well as they do.
No, it's luck when you first enter the arena and it dashes into you and instantly swipes, knocking you backwards before the camera even allows you to see a good place to dodge. Similarly with the stomps it does. You can be out of an animation, dodge backwards and still get hit and go flying. You also cannot really ever be anywhere other than directly behind it, or you'll constantly get hit with near instant swipes, and the seemingly lack of i-frames in this game exacerbates it even more. The feedback in this game reminds me a bit too much of TW3 at times too. If you read my previous post, I said that I almost beat it on my first attempt with zero health packs going in. The next encounters were all crazy, random shit town.
N° 2048
Member
I run through area, bank, repeat. It's something I like doing for souls-like games. Also want to find all nooks and corners.
thanks, i couldn't find it lol
Niceguydan8
Member
Eh, I disagree. I thought for the most part, it was a fine boss fight. I didn't have any problems with the stomping, and I thought it was pretty easy (especially the rockets) after figuring out the pattern. None of it seemed cheap to me.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Beat first boss, took me just a few tries, the hardest part was to figure out, how to actually damage it.
Actually the battle system is a lot of fun, but the enemies aren't very fun to fight, at least for now.
That's all for the first couple of hours impression. I just want to say, that at least Deck 13, managed to make a fun fist type weapon, unlike From in Dark Souls 3.
Congratz lol
Actually the battle system is a lot of fun, but the enemies aren't very fun to fight, at least for now.
That's all for the first couple of hours impression. I just want to say, that at least Deck 13, managed to make a fun fist type weapon, unlike From in Dark Souls 3.
Congratz lol
adversarial
Member
I'm like 2 ish hours in in the Rocket station atm and I'm coming across pitch black areas where I'm prompted to use my flashlight, but I haven't had enough materials to craft it yet.
Niceguydan8
Member
If you are playing with a controller, it's either up or down on the dpad, I don't think you need to craft it.
Blitzrules240
Banned
Even with the brightness slider all the way up, the dark area is super dark.
You need to overcharge the power box and things will lighten up more down there.
robotzombie
Member
Anyone have suggestions on good weapon types? I've been really wanting to try two handers, but I havent found a single decent one yet, I only have a shitty metal pipe. I've been using one hander saw blade thing, but it is getting kind of boring.
However, what I don't like is that the game seems to be against switching weapon types because of building up proficiency...
However, what I don't like is that the game seems to be against switching weapon types because of building up proficiency...
Nyteshade517
Member
you have to have Body gear on to use lights AFAIK
Relaxed Muscle
Member
I'm going with the dual blades/fist type of weapon, that you should get early on the game. Is very fun and with cool combos And don't worry about proficiency, it dosn't make much difference, and you can gain levels quite fast.
The level design is very different than Souls.
I really,really enjoy it. Extremely dense rubik's cube.
KZXcellent
Member
Every time the games goes into slow-mo for the executions I get a little too hype. Feels great.
Slowdown on hits really help make the blows feel heavy.
adversarial
Member
Yeah, it's d-pad down, but when I press it it says "Equip body gear to use gear lights." Problem is, I've been cutting up dudes left & right but still don't have enough to craft a chest piece. The only places I can go are both pitch black so IDK... I'll keep farming stuff and see if I get lucky.