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This is more consistent, so I prefer it. No more of this waiting for dailies/flash sales crap.
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There will be no daily & flash deals in the upcoming Steam Autumn sale (25/11)
- Thread starter texhnolyze
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I believe a lot of people are overreacting. Just because there's only one discount doesn't mean the sale as we know ended or there won't be any high discounted games.
Perhaps instead of having a -50% normal discount and a -80% daily discount a tittle can have a -60%/-70% discount throughout the sale.
Perhaps instead of having a -50% normal discount and a -80% daily discount a tittle can have a -60%/-70% discount throughout the sale.
JustSomeone
Member
That's great news.
Now i will be able to get the games on my wishlist as soon as the sale starts,instead of waiting for dailies\last day of the sale.
Now i will be able to get the games on my wishlist as soon as the sale starts,instead of waiting for dailies\last day of the sale.
Vincent Grayson
Member
I like this. The gamification of sales was fun at first, but feeling like I had to check the sale every 8 hours was annoying.
TheDarkKnight774
Member
If it's just the autumn sale then I don't mind. I actually hate the Thanksgiving sale because it's so close to the Winter sale that I don't know if I should pull the trigger now or later.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Good, I see nothing wrong here.
SeeNoWeevil
Member
Featured sales were so pointless and anti-consumer. Those who didn't know the 'rules' got screwed, those who did had to pointlessly sit to the end. Why? What's the point having two big sales so close together also? Are games going to be cheaper in the winter sale?
This is likely good for my wallet. Past Steam sales have conditioned me to wait for at least 66% off if not 75% unless I really want to play a game right now.
If a game has to have one discount for the duration of the sale, the likelihood is we won't see many newer games at these discount levels, so looks like I'll be spending less.
If a game has to have one discount for the duration of the sale, the likelihood is we won't see many newer games at these discount levels, so looks like I'll be spending less.
I agree with your first point.
There's no evidence though they will scale back their discounts because there's no dailies. The discounts are supposed to drive number of copies sold. I'm sure somewhere they'll have worked out, $10 sells this many copies and $5 sells this many copies etc. Not getting the revenue they need will hurt even more in terms of reduced share price and investors. It's like a Dutch Auction - they have one shot so there's no low balling.
People are just assuming its the 'normal discount' every day, but they could easily put that big discount on every day.
Besides who really purchased the game at the normal discount without waiting for the daily/flash - i bet nobody. The system was crap - you had to wait and sometimes you bought other things instead and had no money for what you wanted to buy in the first place.
Yep.
I only look for certain games during sales so if what I want isn't at the price point I'm willing to pay, I can stop paying attention. I don't have to keep checking hoping it shows up in a daily or flash deal
Also now you don't have to deal with forumers asking "should i buy this now!?" and met with "wait for the dailies!"
The best sale was the Summer 12 one where they introduced flash deals and community votes and those ran for different durations so you had to check at least every 6ish hours to not miss any deals.
They'll probably get more sales from me if anything. I always see one or two good deals on the first day, hold off on buying them in case they come on to a daily sale then forget about it later or just talk myself out of it entirely.
Curious though what data Valve is seeing to make this change.
Curious though what data Valve is seeing to make this change.
Dreamwriter
Member
I've bought games I normally wouldn't have during those daily deals, because I was on the fence and it was such a good deal. I've also discovered new games when coming back to see what new deals there are. So in my mind this is bad for the developers/publishers who used to get the great daily deals. However, I could see how developers/publishers whose games are NOT featured as daily deals were suffering, because most people were only buying the deals.
So you prefer to save less money? Do people really find it difficult to check Steam on their PC/Phone/Tablet once every 8 hours?
arts&crafts
Member
Next thing you know Valve is going to bring out a dialogue wheel for purchasing.
Do you want to buy a game?
A. FPS
B. RPG
C. RACING
D. Sarcasm?
Do you want to buy a game?
A. FPS
B. RPG
C. RACING
D. Sarcasm?
Fachasaurus
Member
This kind of does take out the mini game fun out of the sale. I liked voting and refreshing every once in a while.
Silver lining, basically this will guarantee me not adding to my backlog because "hey it's 80 percent off, why not?!"
Bittersweet moment.
Silver lining, basically this will guarantee me not adding to my backlog because "hey it's 80 percent off, why not?!"
Bittersweet moment.
Stitch
Gold Member
oh god no. voting and flash deals were terrible.
the best sale was the one where you actually had to play your games to get achievements and earn prices.
CyanideFuse
Member
That was my first Steam sale and it was truly amazing - all the changing deals kept me hooked from start to finish.
This change is more likely to mean I will not visit the store all that much unless I am in gaming mode and going on Steam any way. Having a reason to come back often made me buy games, not in a flash or daily, but just because I was on Steam having to check those new deals.
arts&crafts
Member
Exactly, now just check day 1 and you don't have to go on Steam for 2 weeks.
Dreamwriter
Member
This could also be misinformation so they could figure out who was leaking the sale dates...
Visualante2
Member
Less chance to get a mis price if they only update once.
or you could just not buy the game until it gets to the price point you want it at.
If it never gets to that price point you probably never really wanted the game anyway. Either that or you had unrealistic expectations like how some people wanted GTA V and Witcher 3 to be 25-33% off in the summer sale
the sale dates are obvious - you don't need anyone leaking anything to figure it out.
Kinda feel the same way, after the first one or two I got tired of "playing the game" to save like 80 cents, or whatever.
This is fine given the duration of the sale, as long as the discounts aren't too stingy.
stan423321
Member
You know what's even more consistent?
silvermember
Banned
Here's the scoop, they never did. Their plan was to suck you in, convince you that a monopoly( when you hold a significant advantage that essentially locks out competitors that makes it a near monopoly) is good. Get your fans to actually say how they will never use a competing product. Then those fans still expect things to be different from all other monopolies in history.
Same thing with AMD and Intel
Cymbal Head
Banned
Just as well. I have less to spend on games than the past few years.
NoblesseOblige
Banned
Who calls it an Autumn sale on November 25th. Autumn is over 2/3rds over. If you're going to have an Autumn sale then plan it around September 20th. Valve, do you even know how seasons work?
charlequin
Banned
They were not.
This is definitely what is going to happen. Everyone has to remember the mechanism that this pricing is based on -- individual developers filling out a form that says "what's your base discount" and "what higher discount will you offer in exchange for greater promotion during the sale." If you take out the second box most people aren't going to fill that number into the first box, they're going to fill in the same baseline discount and be done with it.
Just based on the information we have about how Steam sales have operated in the past, it's very difficult for me to imagine this playing out in any way other than higher prices across the board and lower sales for mid-tier-to-small titles.
ebullientprism
Member
I would be fine with this. It sucked having missed out on a daily and the gulf between the daily and the normal discount made purchasing kinda pointless.
Also now you can buy what you want day 1 instead of waiting for a week hoping it goes on a daily sale.
opticalmace
Member
You're neglecting that they would make more money per game sold in comparison to the previous approach (dailies and flash sales and whatnot).
I don't like this either. I don't have a wishlist, but I will just run through the entire collection, put what I like in a spreadsheet and make a final selection later.
No emotion, no excitement, just boring work. Also expecting lesser discounts, which to me means less purchases, as anything below 75% off is a no go, and with my backlog, even 75% off is a no in most cases.
With that said, as a cheap bastard, my opinion probably isn't worth much to developers anyway.
No emotion, no excitement, just boring work. Also expecting lesser discounts, which to me means less purchases, as anything below 75% off is a no go, and with my backlog, even 75% off is a no in most cases.
With that said, as a cheap bastard, my opinion probably isn't worth much to developers anyway.
diffusionx
Gold Member
Honestly it doesn't surprise me. With PC gaming getting bigger and Valve trying to become more of a platform holder, it wouldn't surprise me that they try to de-emphasize these 75% off a 6 month old game sale.
Also having to check the site 3 times a day and hoping to get a good sale is annoying.
Also having to check the site 3 times a day and hoping to get a good sale is annoying.
Robert at Zeboyd Games
Banned
I'm a little surprised that everyone is predicting that with this change, nobody will do steep discounts anymore.