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[Blobbers]

What's worse? Honest question?

Fuck, I misinterpreted his post so bad.

"Shit title change. I mean, it's not the best, but it's not the worst by a long shot."

I thought the second sentence was still referring to the title change but was also a play on the title change, where he exchanged the words "best" and "worst", so it should be read like "Shit title change. I mean, it's not the worst, but it's not the best either." The whole post was playful and actually praised the title change.

In truth, the second sentence was referring to the WiiU, and he really did mean the title change was shit.

 

[Cheat Code]

Wii U can't even play DVDs.

It's objectively the worst piece of media hardware in the modern market. Stop complaining about the title change. Wii U still has cool video games.

 

[LordOcidax]

Actually for me is the best, my kids can watch cartoons (Youtube) on the tv and i can read the news on the pad. I take that function over any other on the PS4 and One.

 

[Nakho]

I don't intend to call you out specifically, but I think what's irksome about it is that it comes across as fanboyish and encourages console warring. I mean, it's already led to a lot of "haha, Wii U" drive-by responses.

In my opinion, the title change is directly counterproductive to accommodating either "a neutral ground" or "civil, inclusive discourse."

I agree. It was childish and disrespectful to the OP, who took his time to explain his reasoning in detail.

 

[The Abominable Snowman]

480p looks fine on a 6" screen.

And here I am complaining about my work phone being ~720p on a 5" screen.

 

[tbb033]

Much as the OP was wrong, that title change could not be more trolling if it lived in a cave and ate small children. Boo.

 

[Pinko Marx]

Nintendo fans, calm down, its a joke.

Spoiler

even if it is true

 

[Chezzymann]

The mod title change is objectively right though, out of the current gen consoles it is the worst for media.

No its not, it depends on what you want. The Wii U offers multiple features the other consoles don't have. I'd rather have off TV features and suspending video on the tv while browsing the internet on the game pad than the ability to play discs.

 

[Amir0x]

It is so far from the best media consumption console (or streaming console - as if I'd want to stream 480p video to a fucking tablet. It's 2015, not 2006) that i have trouble imagining this isn't sarcastic, despite having read the detailed OP a few times.

I mean...

1. The controller is the remote.

The wiiU's handy dandy TV button let's you use your gamepad as a universal remote and turn the tv up and down, change channels, and power on and off without ever letting your hands leave the controllers. You can then launch your apps with the same device no switching.

Much of this can be done using XBO, and better.

2. Support for the "Big 3".

Amazon, Hulu, and Neftlix. Between these 3 services you basically can watch every big TV series and movie ever conceived. It also has Crunchyroll for anime fans.

Both PS4 and Xbox One have support for these sorts of things, plus like support for five trillion other services which actually make them far closer to the claim "you can watch every big TV series". Only in the case of PS4/XBO, it'd be "movie, anime, tv show, web series, web magazine, sports game, pornography, etc."

Advantage: The consoles not named Wii U.

3. Off-TV play.

Or should I say watch? You watching an episode of Cut Throat Kitchen and your brother/mother/significant other wants to watch something else? Just flip it to the gamepad and keep going not only has dedicated speakers but a headphone jack to keep from disturbing your significant other.

I mean if I was going to do this, I'd just use Vita or one of the tablets to stream XBO or something or whatever because I'd rather cut my own wrists then watch TV at 480p on that grotesque screen. Once again, it's 2015, not 2006. Nintendo couldn't even do the feature right.

4. Web Browser

Finally, the wiiU has a fully functioning, intuitive, powerful, and robust web browser. You can suspend any of those aforementioned streaming apps and launch the web browser at any time to look up random stuff about what you are watching, find youtube videos (youtube app sucks use the browser), or pull up more media on various sites all on the TV/pad all while your app is comfortably suspended and can be relaunched at the same point without missing a beat.

It's not even robust or powerful, but I mean sure it has it. And it's probably better to control than the XBO or PS4's version due to the tablet controls. Buuut that's about it. And this relatively minor advantage (considering PS4 and XBO also have web browsers) are massively offset by ya know the sort of important thing of not playing DVDs or Blu-Rays. Not to mention with DLNA and all that now you can basically turn the XBO/PS4 into the ultimate all purpose media consoles.


Basically the Wii U could only be considered the best media/streaming console if you have zero exposure to others or you're just being intellectually dishonest (that is to say, you're arbitrarily excluding the advantages of the competitor so as to force the audience to conclude Wii U)

 

[Wickerbasket]

It's debatable on terms of what the user needs/wants. Stuff like TV-remote and Off-TV play are simply not done the same way or at all on the other ones. That's why mods shouldn't be pushing agendas through title-changes, but rather participate in the discussion.

So the title would be more accurate as 'The Wii U is the worst possible media consumption console for the majority of people".

Lets be honest, if you label something as the 'best media console', it's not silly to expect it to be able to play common media such as dvds and to be able to stream common media formats.

It's definitely not the best option for media consumption, I'd rather use any of my other consoles to view content than the Wii U.

Edit: My phone is a better media device than the Wii U, and it has a higher resolution screen.

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

Actually Xbox One is the best. But who changed the thread title?

 

[The Albatross]

The gamepad as a browser or media device would be great if it wasn't worse than a $50 tablet.

Every single media function of the WiiU can be done better by a $20 Chromecast and $100 tablet.

 

[Awntawn]

No its not, it depends on what you want. The Wii U offers multiple features the other consoles don't have.

As with the situation with games, what it has just isn't enough to make up for what it doesn't have.

 

[VariantX]

No DLNA support and no physical media playback either? The Wii U cannot objectively be the best console for media when you can't even use a ton of media formats. OP at best, can say it fits into his lifestyle better than other consoles do.

 

[Not Spaceghost]

It can't even play media files.

It can play mp4's via the browser. Just host an in network site via the microsoft internet information services

Point it to a folder on your desktop and stream those MP4s.

 

[Silvard]

I'm not really sure what you want here, some mod decided the world should think the Wii U is the worst thing ever designed in terms of watching video and so the conversation went from taking down the hyperbole of it being the best to it taking down the hyperbole of it being the worst.

Blame the hilarious mod.

EDIT: Also next time someone comes out and says the administration of NeoGAF isn't pathologically anti-Nintendo I'll remember this thread, not sure what the fuck was supposed to be accomplished here.

I wrote my post before I saw the title change, what I found hilarious is how the OP had to add so many caveats to his position in order to maintain that the Wii U is perfect at something. There should be a point at which you have so many caveats that you should reconsider what you were actually saying.

 

[FLAguy954]

some people still use dvds and blurays?

LOL

Lmao BluRays offer the highest quality video available at the moment.

 

[Oppo]

I'm not really sure what you want here, some mod decided the world should think the Wii U is the worst thing ever designed in terms of watching video and so the conversation went from taking down the hyperbole of it being the best to it taking down the hyperbole of it being the worst.

Blame the hilarious mod.

EDIT: Also next time someone comes out and says the administration of NeoGAF isn't pathologically anti-Nintendo I'll remember this thread, not sure what the fuck was supposed to be accomplished here.

this is the collective-nervous-breakdown type behaviour i referenced earlier

 

[Blobbers]

Watch the title be changed again to "It just hit me.The WiiU is a console where media consumption is possible". Everybody's happy.

 

[Chezzymann]

As with the situation with games, what it has just isn't enough to make up for what it doesn't have.

At least for me, those features are more important than what the Xbox one or ps4 has. I couldn't care less about playing discs. Haven't bought a blue ray in years.

 

[A-V-B]

Mod hax strikes again!

 

[HardRojo]

Thread title change made me do a double take because I was certain I saw the original title and rolled my eyes, then I clicked the title and it was changed.

Good job mods.

I'm glad it was an actual title change. I started questioning my memory lol and I went as far as looking for the "original" thread since I thought this was a different created to make fun of the first one.

 

[Qassim]

I just tried using Plex web on the WiiU browser. It's so robust and powerful that it can't even scroll my through my library smoothly.

 

[Of All Trades]

I agree. It was childish and disrespectful to the OP, who took his time to explain his reasoning in detail.

The OP was childish and disrespectful to GAF by not performing basic research or diligence in his rush to gurgle out corporate worship.

 

[megabytecr]

My TV goes through the Xbox, the Kinect controls my TV's volume which can be controlled with a nice, small convenient media remote that isn't the stupid, large ridiculous gamepad that'll need charging frequently. The Xbox also turns my TV off when I'm done.

The WiiU has an inferior app selection.

Off-screen play I can use the smartglass app on one of the variety of devices I have to stream my TV to, not just the gamepad with its ugly screen, but other devices which aren't as big and bulky.

Having to rely on a web browser on a console media consumption device is hardly what I'd call optimal.

The WiiU is a piece of shit to use, the OS is terrible, my Xbox One updates everything including firmware automatically without me even needing to see an install screen for firmware. It's one thing to have to put up with the turd the WiiU is in order to play a game, but having to put up with it for passive media consumption? I couldn't do that - I'd have smashed that stupid gamepad long ago.

The WiiU isn't even the third best console under my TV for media consumption and it'd be my last option when taking into consideration the other media devices connected to my TV.

With the size of the XB1 I would just put my PC there, that thing is HUGE.

 

[Xaero Gravity]

Thread of the day. Some of the responses in here from those against the title change are golden.

 

[bomblord1]

Much of this can be done using XBO, and better.

Go on what can be done on the xbox one better out of the box?

Both PS4 and Xbox One have support for these sorts of things, plus like support for five trillion other services which actually make them far closer to the claim "you can watch every big TV series". Only in the case of PS4/XBO, it'd be "movie, anime, tv show, web series, web magazine, sports game, pornography, etc."

Advantage: The consoles not named Wii U.

Amazon Netflix and Hulu support almost every major TV series available outside of HBO/Showtime stuff that they make you buy their own services for. Additional apps hit diminishing returns incredibly fast.

I mean if I was going to do this, I'd just use Vita or one of the tablets to stream XBO or something or whatever because I'd rather cut my own wrists then watch TV at 480p on that grotesque screen. Once again, it's 2015, not 2006. Nintendo couldn't even do the feature right.

480p tv on a 6" screen looks fine. Quit with the hyperbole.

It's not even robust or powerful, but I mean sure it has it. And it's probably better to control than the XBO or PS4's version due to the tablet controls. Buuut that's about it.

Yes

Basically the Wii U could only be considered the best media/streaming console if you have zero exposure to others or you're just being intellectually dishonest.

I own all three and in my situation it is objectively superior for my needs in every possible way to the other 2 consoles.

The OP was childish and disrespectful to GAF by not performing basic research or diligence in his rush to gurgle out corporate worship.

Oh come on now. I was finding it easier to use my wiiU for Hulu/Netflix and I made a thread with a hyperbolic title about it.

 

[TAJ]

Xbox 360 sucks because of its limited 1080p support outside of MS's first-party apps.

 

[Garou]

So the title would be more accurate as 'The Wii U is the worst possible media consumption console for the majority of people".

Lets be honest, if you label something as the 'best media console', it's not silly to expect it to be able to play common media such as dvds and to be able to stream common media formats.

It's definitely not the best option for media consumption, I'd rather use any of my other consoles to view content than the Wii U.

That's fine to disagree, but then people should simply explain themselves and -discuss- instead of trying to give a witty one-liner in the thread-title. The standard of discourse should be higher than a simple "lol no" against someone who took his time to explain himself. Shame on you GAF-mod!

 

[King Gilga]

No its not, it depends on what you want. The Wii U offers multiple features the other consoles don't have. I'd rather have off TV features and suspending video on the tv while browsing the internet on the game pad than the ability to play discs.

You can do any of that with your phone with a incompatibly better screen.

There is nothing it brings to the table which budget ass modern phones and tablets (which everyone has like 5 lying around) do not, making the pad objectively useless and the console therefore objectively the worst for it.

 

[Cosmozone]

Someone who has title change abilities hates Wii U, lol.

 

[orthodoxy1095]

That doesn't really tell me what it is. A set of interoperability guidelines for sharing digital media among multimedia devices

What devices? What kind of content? Through what means?

I'm not sure what's that confusing but the basic idea is that it's a way for devices to communicate and share media on a local network. You can use it to share movies, music and pictures. You could use it to watch a movie from your computer on the TV, play an album from your iPhone on the stereo or send pictures from your tablet to a wireless printer. It uses UPnP. PS360 had it, X1/PS4 has it. Software like XMBC and Plex have it built in.

 

[Amir0x]

I'm not really sure what you want here, some mod decided the world should think the Wii U is the worst thing ever designed in terms of watching video and so the conversation went from taking down the hyperbole of it being the best to it taking down the hyperbole of it being the worst.

EDIT: Also next time someone comes out and says the administration of NeoGAF isn't pathologically anti-Nintendo I'll remember this thread, not sure what the fuck was supposed to be accomplished here.

Ah, confirmation bias. The mod is illustrating the ridiculousness of the hyperbole by demonstrating that the majority view is far closer to 'worst media consumption console' than 'best.' And there have been a zillion Sony and Microsoft topics in which thread titles were edited by mods to accurately reflect similarly absurd views about those companies.

This thread is not proof of "pathological anti-Nintendo" behavior from GAF. It is however proof of how sensitive some members are when their company of choice is slighted in any fashion. neoGAF fairly critiques all fanboy views, and has on many occasions edited titles on subjects relating to Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft. That you take it personally as "PROOF OF TEH BIAS" says more about you than the forum.

 

[Finale Fireworker]

My own experience is this:

The Wii U is a Netflix/Hulu/Amazon/YouTube streaming machine when it comes to media. But it can't play Blu-rays, so right away the Wii U is unplugged in favor of my PS4.

But for a while, when I was playing Smash Bros, my Wii U was hooked up instead. I watch Netflix or Hulu almost every single night. So I would try to watch Netflix on my Wii U.

1. The app is much slower to launch and to use than the PS4.
2. You can't put the tablet to sleep, so I have to sort of hide the tablet so it's out of sight. It's very distracting to have your media playing both on your television and your coffee table.
3. The tablet itself is much bigger than a Dual Shock and it feels strange to pick up such a large device for something as simple as pausing a stream.

So I didn't like it, and I eventually stopped using it for Netflix or Hulu. It just didn't make as much sense. If my girlfriend is asleep on the couch and I'm behind her, it's easy to tap the X button on my Dual Shock to pause the show or confirm I'm still watching.

It is not convenient to reach for my tablet, which I have concealed, and use two hands to hold the tablet itself and press the pause button.

This is all preferential stuff. It's ease of use. But the PS4 over the Wii U was a no-brainer for me. I would never use my Wii U for streaming, especially since it does verifiably less than my other machine that already holds the advantage.

 

[NIN90]

Isn't browsing the internet on your phone ten times faster than pulling up the Wii U's browser? How is that a plus?

 

[Wickerbasket]

That's fine to disagree, but then people should simply explain themselves and -discuss- instead of trying to give a witty one-liner in the thread-title. The standard of discourse should be higher than a simple "lol no" against someone who took his time to explain himself. Shame on you GAF-mod!

To be fair, the original title was click bait, so I can see why the initial reaction to it would be 'lol no', resulting in the title change you see now.

 

[LegendofLex]

The OP was childish and disrespectful to GAF by not performing basic research or diligence in his rush to gurgle out corporate worship.

The OP's points were all focused on elements of the Wii U user experience that s/he prefers to other consoles. That's hands-down the best foundation for a "I think Wii U is the best device for streaming media" thread.

But, sure, since it's an opinion you don't agree with, clearly corporate worship.

 

[TheAbsolution]

Watch the title be changed again to "It just hit me.The WiiU is a console where media consumption is possible". Everybody's happy.

Change the title to this, mods. Please.

 

[Chezzymann]

You can do any of that with your phone with a incompatibly better screen.

There is nothing it brings to the table which modern phones and tablets (which everyone has like 5 lying around) do not, making the pad objectively useless and the consoles therefore objectively the worst for that purpose.

Its the simplicity of it, id rather use one device than fumbling around with multiple. Your process would require a tablet and a controller when the Wii U is both at the same time.

 

[bomblord1]

I'm not sure what's that confusing but the basic idea is that it's a way for devices to communicate and share media on a local network. You can use it to share movies, music and pictures. You could use it to watch a movie from your computer on the TV, play an album from your iPhone on the stereo or send pictures from your tablet to a wireless printer. It uses UPnP. PS360 had it, X1 has it. Software like XMBC and Plex have it built in.

WiiU can use Plex through a browser and ok I had never even heard of that before today.

 

[ProfessorMoran]

Thank you for the title change.

 

[Ivan A Nguyen]

Here is my problem with the Wii U as a streaming device.

The youtube function on it will pipe audio through the gamepad because it mirrors the TV. The same does not happen anywhere else. I thought it'd be great if my wife could watch her House Wife shows with out my son hearing them argue, but because I bought them legally through amazon, she has to pipe it through the TV if she wants to see it on the big screen and hear it. If she wants to watch it on a smaller device then she can just look at her phone instead of holding the dirty controller.

 

[Of All Trades]

That's fine to disagree, but then people should simply explain themselves and -discuss- instead of trying to give a witty one-liner in the thread-title. The standard of discourse should be higher than a simple "lol no" against someone who took his time to explain himself. Shame on you GAF-mod!

Before the title change the OP repeatedly dug his heels in by disregarding any criticism with "well, for my needs..." and continues to be dismissive of arguments regarding screen quality.

 

[King Gilga]

Its the simplicity of it, id rather use one device than fumbling around with multiple.

Not the one that's literally always in your pocket? Makes no sense sorry.

 

[Silvard]

Watch the title be changed again to "It just hit me.The WiiU is a console where some media consumption is possible". Everybody's happy.

Fixed that for you.

 

[Jotamide]

Title change is fair. Can't believe they shipped this thing without even DVD support. The Wii could do that via homebrew. SMH

 

[SoulUnison]

Well that's kind of a mean-spirited title change.

 

[bomblord1]

Before the title change the OP repeatedly dug his heels in by disregarding any criticism with "well, for my needs..." and continues to be dismissive of arguments regarding screen quality.

Go on point out where I "disregarded any criticism" and wasn't just explaining my perspective on it.

Also the screen looks fine.

 

[orthodoxy1095]

If your console lacks 1) Physical media playback, 2) App support from major services like HBO Go and MLB, and 3) native DLNA support, it's obviously not the best media playing console out there. It's ludicrous to call it such.

 

[Majestad]

why. it's accurate.

if you broke it down point by point the Wii U would fare very poorly indeed, across the board.

Make a thread "My mother is the most beautiful woman on Earth" and post a picture of her, while you explain your reasons as to why you think that. Come back later and have your title changed "My mother is the ugliest woman on Earth" just because someone, whether "right" or "wrong" disagreed with your opinion.

Technically the same shit. Modifying thread titles is childish and disrespectful, even if it is slightly amusing to some.