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Titanfall has maximum player count of 12 (alongside AI) [Respawn comments post #558]
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Karsticles
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So the default multiplayer option will force people to fight CPU AI via the mechs? That sounds undesirable.
You and me both brother.
Obviously never played 4v4 Gears of War. One of the most heart pounding games out there, and there was always a break at the end of the game with trash talking in the lobby.
@ DKo5
When do you think you guys will announce the resolution for XB1? I'm sure if it was 1080p already it would have been touted by now, but when do you think people can expect an announcement? The day the game releases by a tech site or a month before by the developer?
Also, dedicated servers?
The game looks amazing, truly. I doubt if you knew the answers (answer) that it would be wise in addressing it, so ignore it if you wish. But dedicated servers? Yay or nay? I don't want Halo or Killzone dedicated servers, I mean real ones.
Huh? The mechs are controllable by players but you can hop and set them to AI follow mode.
Maybe I just don't understand what you're asking.
FairXchange
Member
That sounds really cool, and peaks my interest in terms of gameplay possibilities.
What's confusing is you inferring that these games offer the same experience with varying player count, but Titan Fall is clearly not offering a n Unreal Tournament style team DM with 12 characters on the map, so discussing it as if you know that 12v12 would be a better experience because you enjoy that more in Unreal Tournament is a fairly irrelevant point. There's absolutely nothing there that someone working on Titan Fall can take away, since they are making a different style of game.
I'd say it's equally as irrelevant as those in this thread saying that 6v6 is perfect because that's how they liked to play game X. they might find Titan Fall a horrendous experience just as you might love it. People should be putting in more effort to understand what this game is, rather than imagining it as a sci fi/modern version of whatever their favorite FPS of the past was.
AndersTheSwede
Member
Total respect for what you are trying to create.
Wait until the next trailer drops and we'll have to see how excited you are then! I'm pretty pumped myself.
Wiitardation
Member
NullPointer
Member
Same here. I won't be getting this first outing but the game looks fantastic. The gameplay speaks for itself.
This might be the most reasonable criticism I've read in this thread so far. Variety and breadth and value are some big unanswered questions for this title.
6v6 is fine if that's what the game is designed for.
When I first started playing Team Fortress 2 I would play on 32 player instant or fast respawn servers and I eventually realized how awful that was.
The game was designed for 24 players max and to have longer respawn times. That's all I play now.
When I first started playing Team Fortress 2 I would play on 32 player instant or fast respawn servers and I eventually realized how awful that was.
The game was designed for 24 players max and to have longer respawn times. That's all I play now.
BuggeryBugz
Member
I believe him. I'm also super stressed when I play multiplayer games.
I love SC2 but I can't take 1vs1 ladder games, it exhausts me. I just play with friends.
brandonh83
Banned
This actually makes me more excited.
All of the maps probably have the same size.
Forgot you guys have said that before, my apologies.
Maybe we will get the Steam release announcement during that time period.
Freezie KO
Banned
Can't believe people are criticizing them without knowing how the rest of the game is balanced.
GotchaForce
Member
It was revealed to be 720p and 60fps a while back.
Marauder Shields
Member
God damn this game is a lightening rod. I wonder why?
We've got other games (by other games I mean 1 game) that do large battles, which is probably why people are upset.
IW knows their shit when it come to small player battles, so I'm going to let them do their thing. That speed of gameplay is not very conducive to large player battles, the Quake series, for example is probably best played with 2-4 players. The only high speed gameplay with large player counts I can stand by is the Tribes series, but those aren't as focused on hitscan weapons and are less emphasized on cover and buildings.
If IW thinks their game's rhythm works best at 6v6, by all means I believe them.
IW knows their shit when it come to small player battles, so I'm going to let them do their thing. That speed of gameplay is not very conducive to large player battles, the Quake series, for example is probably best played with 2-4 players. The only high speed gameplay with large player counts I can stand by is the Tribes series, but those aren't as focused on hitscan weapons and are less emphasized on cover and buildings.
If IW thinks their game's rhythm works best at 6v6, by all means I believe them.
People like me get really big headaches without an FOV of 95-110, so, um, if you guys don't do thaaaaaaaaaaat... I will be sad.
You wouldn't want to make me sad, do you?
60 fps has yet to be confirmed.
oxalicwave
Banned
12 players maximum, last-gen graphics, source engine usage and still only 720p on the Xbone...
bunbun777
Member
Some off you clowns just had to express your opinion on how bad MAG was huh? Well here's another clown saying it might not have been the most popular shooter but it was great with a dynamic not seen in other games. Sorry for the off topic remark but you really don't need to bring up big match sizes to make yourself feel better about TF, or maybe you do idk.
FreddieQuell
Member
Maybe this is a dumb question, but how does the ai contribute to your enjoyment with the nuts and bolts gunplay of the game? The reason I ask is because in every multiplayer shooter I've played playing against bots is nothing but a disappointment. I can see how they can contribute to the game in these other ways, but I can't help but feel like running around and killing ai in this intense action packed game is going to be underwhelming.
Damn 20 pages of back and forth over player count?
There's been plenty of great shooters with similar player counts. Games that have higher player counts tend to play differently and lose the team play aspect that games with lower counts have.
If you have 6 players on your side you're going to depend more on each other in order to win. In games like BF where you have 32/64 players it becomes almost a free for all. Some people play to win but most are simply out to gain for themselves whatever they are looking for be it exp, unlocks, or achievements.
Like the man said if high player count is your thing there are other games for you to play. I'd say 90% of the people bitching about player count have never played a shooter with a low count before and don't realize what they've missed with games like SOCOM and CS.
On a side note, maybe this "outrage" will be a good thing for those of us who like to play and win as a team. All the out for themselves types can keep on playing BF and CoD leaving TF for us. It could cut down on the number of knuckleheads we get matched with.
There's been plenty of great shooters with similar player counts. Games that have higher player counts tend to play differently and lose the team play aspect that games with lower counts have.
If you have 6 players on your side you're going to depend more on each other in order to win. In games like BF where you have 32/64 players it becomes almost a free for all. Some people play to win but most are simply out to gain for themselves whatever they are looking for be it exp, unlocks, or achievements.
Like the man said if high player count is your thing there are other games for you to play. I'd say 90% of the people bitching about player count have never played a shooter with a low count before and don't realize what they've missed with games like SOCOM and CS.
On a side note, maybe this "outrage" will be a good thing for those of us who like to play and win as a team. All the out for themselves types can keep on playing BF and CoD leaving TF for us. It could cut down on the number of knuckleheads we get matched with.
Xbox One am cry. 720p? Wow. Game looks like it will be hella fun, but........dayum.
BuggeryBugz
Member
Aren't you cute.
I've got faith in these guys making it a great online experience but only time will tell.
Officially? All we know is 60 FPS.
Do you really think this is Source Engine circa 2004? Come on.
Rex Griswold
Member
All I remember about MAG was that it had the misfortune of releasing on the same day as ME2.
Chairman Yang
if he talks about books, you better damn well listen
Me too. I was only mildly interested in Titanfall before. When design decisions are made to reinforce one another, rather than simply being tacked on to boost a feature list, the results tend to be great. And player count is a design decision--it fundamentally changes so many things about the game. Obvious stuff like the level layout and pacing of the game, but subtler stuff too.
No wonder so many multiplayer shooters feel so cookie-cutter. A big segment of the audience will rail against totally reasonable design decisions and prefer a safe, homogenized sort of design. I'm glad Respawn is resisting that route.
I'm not sure why you are trying to explain what dedicated servers are or what they do to me. Suffice to say I'll take matchmaking to Azure servers over what we got in MW2.
You tease.
Thank you for sharing and helping ease the concerns of many people reading this thread. I disagree with the notion that (some) players are incapable of tracking more info, but it seems you are aiming for a certain experience which is commendable. From the sounds of it, the game seems built around the new player experience and possibly appealing to people who have disliked shooters in the past. Is that a stretch? I'm not a new player. I've been playing shooters for well over ten years now. What is there for those of us who are experienced players?
And, just because I should ask it: Why not give players the option for larger matches? Beyond the understandable concerns that a new player might play it and hate it, why not allow for those of us who prefer a little chaos to have at it?
NullPointer
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Its the Fulda Gap of the console wars. EA. Microsoft. A moneyhat exclusive. Takes advantage of the cloud. From the makers of COD. The biggest reason to buy an Xbox. Multiplayer only. Hyped by the big names in gaming press. And now its 6 v 6 max with a strong AI component.
Its a perfect storm of divisiveness. A potent recipe for knee-jerk vitriol, and sometimes even batshit fucking madness by the look of things.
But God damn does it look amazing in motion in terms of moment to moment action. Letting the gameplay do all the talking ala "Battlefield moments" was a great idea.
SlickShoesRUCrazy
Member
sure hope all the people calling this game shitty for the player count aren't excited for that evolve game.
Karsticles
Member
Right, so in multiplayer, you will be facing CPU mechs a lot, right? Because players will have set them to autopilot?
Fudgepuppy
Banned
6v6 was amazing in MW2, so this excites me.
This is the first I've heard anyone classify and flesh out the FPS/MOBA idea. Even if I do think our obsessive need to classify things is a huge weakness. I'm a bit excited now. I'll be sure to get my gaming laptop going again. Dial down the resolution a bit an we're good to go.
PetriP-TNT
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12 players is just bueno. Absolutely top for any competitive online FPS (and 6v6 is the best mode as Enemy Territory already proved 10 years ago).
Don't worry people, I am sure that there will be 64 vs 64 friendly fire off servers up in no time.
Don't worry people, I am sure that there will be 64 vs 64 friendly fire off servers up in no time.
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
Origin-only
FOV capped at 20
Framerate capped at 25 to be more cinematic
Player movement locked to up-down-left-right arrows
Crouch is locked to k for krouch. Toggle only.
Every single weapon is hitscan including weapons that are otherwise projectiles in the console version
Symmetrically encrypted read-only config.ini
Menus are made of really big buttons you have to scroll through
Resolution capped at 480p
Tressfx only available on AMD cards
Uplay, Konami, and Square Enix proprietary accounts also required to play game. Must sign in every 30 minutes.
No server browser
Xbox One gets $20 map packs two months before pc
TF2 hat preorder bonus
Preorder at gamestop to receive exclusive gold bling weapons camo (power to the players)
No items fox only
DKo5 explained that they will be less lethal in AI mode. So it's probably something you only want to do when you need to get to an objective your Titan can't reach.
Willy Wanka
my god this avatar owns
Obviously I can't judge the Titan AI until I play it but the player count is a complete non-issue if the game is designed around that number. My favourite game/mod of all time was designed around 6v6 (Natural Selection) so consider me unperturbed.
Not all controller players are incompetent. I know a few people that I can run laps around when I'm on a controller and they're using a M/KB (granted they're terrible players)
If no one else tweets at them I will
Edit: Nvm, just saw his post.
From what it sounds like, they don't become crazy killing machines and are more vulnerable if you opt to set it to autopilot. It'll definitely be an interesting risk/reward because you do have to get kills to get the ability to call down a Titan so if you call one down, set it to autopilot, and it gets destroyed, you are suddenly set back.
6v6 does seem pretty low at first glance, but after reading some of the thread I feel pretty good about it. I do tend to prefer slightly larger player counts (although I'm also starting to come around to the idea that super large isn't always great either), but I see no reason to doubt Respawn so far and otherwise the game looks pretty fun so I'm excited to see how it turns out.
PetriP-TNT
Member
Loooool
I used to know many peeps that played with arrowkeys, with right control as the "shoot" button (mouse1 as obviously forward)