The PS3 was a piece of shit to develop for early on but had a lot of potential. It took a long time but devs finally figured out ways for their engines to be efficient with the platform and get the most out of it. The Xbox One is gimped from the start and will always be behind the PS4 regardless of how advanced APIs and the XDK get.
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Tomb Raider Definitive Edition - PlayStation 4 = ~60fps, Xbox One = ~30fps
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The PS3 was a piece of shit to develop for early on but had a lot of potential. It took a long time but devs finally figured out ways for their engines to be efficient with the platform and get the most out of it. The Xbox One is gimped from the start and will always be behind the PS4 regardless of how advanced APIs and the XDK get.
ok the fact that Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition Executive Producer Scot Amos was demonstrating it on the ps4 to me means it runs and looks better of the two. And apparently does.
Deslin's Beanie is fucking cool and im not excited at all for Second Son. Our beanie wearing protagonists must be freed from their shackles
like seriously can you think of another protagonist that wears a beanie? Only one. Parappa.
Its a different situation, though. Last gen, PS3 had a bizarre architecture that was hard for developers to get used to, compared to the PC-ike architecture of the 360. But because they were pretty similar power wise, developers were able to reach parity after a few years when they got used to the PS3's architecture. This gen, they both have similar architectures, only PS4 is quite a bit more powerful. There is no reason logically to EVER get a multiplatform title where the two versions are identical, unless the developer's are purposefully gimping the PS4 version.
I personally don't need to see more episodes of "Gies says the darndest things."
RealityPales
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I took to Twitter to gloat, and Tim Dog's right hand man wasn't having it:
Parapraxis
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Okay, that almost made me spit out my Doritos
Chobel
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Let me know if this is bothering any of you and i'll stop posting these.
No keep them coming.
Phire Phox
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PS2 vs Xbox was a FAR bigger disparity than Xbox One and PS4.
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kittens
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It sucks that the XB1 is so underpowered compared to the PS4, but really, most people won't notice or care. Consoles have beat their more powerful rivals several times in the past. The XB1 being less powerful will result in 30,000 less sales at the very most.
enanogrande
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This is some Ice Cold shit right here.
boredandlazy
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If you don't like it, stop standing in the middle of the circle.
Sword Of Doom
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How can you say it's poor optimization when the technically knowledgable people on here have been saying all along that there's a significant power gap?
RedNumberFive
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VeryGooster
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Lara Croft shipwrecked by an ass storm.
ramuh
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I love beanies. Soo much that I'm getting the Collector's Edition to get the beanie.
There giving that away in a Collector's Edition? That's cool! I've always hated the items they usually give in those editions. It makes you wonder if it was like a barbie game collectors edition they would include some heels or a easy bake oven.
tokyostomp
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Oh man, 1080p with TressFX is hefty as hell on even a decent PC rig, so I was fairly favorable it was running 30fps. Damn nice they are getting it hit 60fps with the upgrades. As for the tech console comparisons, well...
I must know what episode this is from!
Don't sound so hurt.. That tag will just make it worst.
GoofsterStud
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It tells you that even CPU bottle necked, the PS4 version will run at a higher frame rate.
If they are using GPGPU that's even less of a concern.
Technically the GPU should never be bottlenecked by the CPU on either console.
I'm waiting for it.
Shin-Ra
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Yup, but these HD and updated titles are still new territory.
It was news to me (in the twitch video) that Scott Amos said that apparently the MP was running on some sort of middle-ware and that system was pulled out and they rebuilt it for the DE edition. I'm left wonder if it plays better and deals with latency better.
Agreed. Obviously the PS4 is more powerful and moving forward we should expect it will have better-performing multi-platform games. I still think I'll enjoy Tomb Raider just fine on XB1.
I couldn't say. That was a long time ago and I don't play Madden. But even so, let's say it was. That's two games where the framerate was 30/60 the entire generation. We're already getting ports where the resolution discrepancy is far larger than it ever was this generation, and now we've got a game where parity in resolution results in a crippled framerate.
I find that the majority of users in this thread are either making humorous posts from this news or are generally excited in that these stories can be early predictors for how the coming years will be for gaming.
Nothing harmful in my opinion.
VeryGooster
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The Monorail episode in season five.
Well last gen the differences were alot more nebulous. It wasn't very clear how things would shake out because of the very different architectures. This gen we have machines that have very similar architectures, but one has A: more GPU performance and B: More bandwidth to main memory.
I'm sure that the gap will close a bit, but it is a fairly large gap to fill.
If PC get's the updated assets it will be the "Maximum Edition". As of next week it's "Runner Up Edition".
my fucking man.
We made it
I avoided this gen because I figured PS4's versions would be gimped to be equal. If this is the norm, i'll gladly bite come gt7... it made no sense that the PS3's exclusives ran circles around the 360, yet... multiplats were all the same.
They have Titanfall and Halo, seems like it will do great with dudebros in the US
smileyforall220
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Not really sure why either. Everyone has already known that the ps4 has better hardware. I think its funny that it makes people feel happy that the ps4 is stronger, at the end of the day its a game machine, not a way of life, or something that represents someone.
If this holds up that would be insane. Crazy to see the sheer power difference.
JordanN
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Have they done so while being cheaper and launching at the same time?
There's always been a price and launch difference but PS4 is cheaper and came out first.
Hitokiri03
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Do we really should be surprised by this?
Given the consoles specs is expected something like this to happen.
I will be surprised if the performace and/or graphics are the same.
Given the consoles specs is expected something like this to happen.
I will be surprised if the performace and/or graphics are the same.
There is a ridiculous amount of schadenfreude with Xbox on here without doubt. I just think that it has been earned with Microsoft's terrible decisions in the last years of the 360 and with the launch of the XB1. It's not bias without reason, it's bias for very particular reasons. On top of that, some people just delight in a bit of controversy. It's always fun to have some fast moving thread full of jokes to jump into.
Those who deny that the forum currently slants pro-Sony are in denial, though. I'm fully pro-Sony so it doesn't bother me one bit, but I certainly notice it.
Uh.. Developers never held back. PS3 was just harder to develop for.
This generation it just so happens, the most powerful system is also the easier one to develop for.
Poimandres
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I can't believe Microsoft let such a performance difference between the 2 machines slide.
Well, my decision is probably going to be pretty easy when it comes to buying a next gen console.
Well, my decision is probably going to be pretty easy when it comes to buying a next gen console.
HYDE
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my fucking man.
We made it
No shit, 'twas so annoying last gen...
PC TressFX > PS4/X1 TressFX. >:]
S08E12 - Mr Burns Buys An Xbox
EL CUCO
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I was just wondering how Tim Dog was feelingI took to Twitter to gloat, and Tim Dog's right hand man wasn't having it:
DirgeExtinction
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There was never this big of a power difference between the PS3 and Xbox 360.
RedNumberFive
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Man-is-Obsolete
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Because the PS3 was on paper more powerful than the 360, but it's architecture and tools were much further behind and the memory situation was worse on the PS3.
This time around the PS4 is not only easier to develop for and has more mature tools, it also is much more powerful and has a significant advantage in not only type of memory but by it being a unified pool. So while yes things will improve for the Xbone, things will only improve and possibly at a faster rate for the PS4.
Actually the RAM thing could become a big Achilles heel for the Xbone later in the cycle as more games with bigger worlds demand more. Remember Skyrim on the PS3, a game that came out in 2011, how'd that extra time help that version. Or BF3 for PS3 where mics would not work for months, plural. Imagine if things like that start to plague the Xbone later as well as performance differences, because it just might happen.
ReplacementPelican
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Post of the thread, well done Sir.
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kittens
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I remain steadfast in the face of meaningless avatar quotes. Your (lack of) implications do not phase me.
lol
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