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Trails in the Sky Second Chapter out October 29th on PC and PSP

Varion

Member
Thanks

Aso is the game like FC where the party is generally predetermined until very late or do you have more control over who you can bring though the whole game?
More control. At the start you have a set party, but by about a fifth of the way through the game you have more than four characters and can start picking which ones you want to use, while the others sit around upstairs in the nearest guild branch so you can switch. It's still a little fiddly (depending on what's going on in the story usually two, or even three, characters will be mandatory), but it's more flexible than FC, at least.
 

Sara

Member
If you're having movie problems, run in windowed mode but at your desktop resolution. It'll run in borderless windowed, so it'll be just about as nice as fullscreen, and with a game this old, the performance hit is negligible at best.
 
How long FC lasts depends on whether you go around talking to all the NPCs after every main story event (the only true way to play Trails) or not.
I hear it gets ridiculous doing this in the Crossbell games. As it is, it took me about 100 hours to beat the game while doing this...though I should add that I'm a much slower player of Jrpgs than most people seem to be. It likely takes far less for other people to do it.

Guess I'll buy the rest of the OST to celebrate too!. I got only one song initially because its pretty catchy:

Fight with Assailant
I've kept most of the soundtrack a secret from myself until I hear it ingame but I have heard Fight with Assailant before and it's so rad.
 
In North America, yes. For most of the rest of the world you can't access the store via a PSP anymore, you have to use Media Go.

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2014/09/...s-for-playstation-portable-in-several-regions

It says right there in the article that you can still download games

A Sony representative told IGN that PSP users in these regions will still be able to purchase content for the handheld device through the Sony Entertainment Network Online Store, and past purchases can still be re-downloaded from the download list on the systems.

You just cannot purchase games from the PSP anymore.
 
I just finished transferring my save from my PSP to my Vita (a process that took too long for such a small file due to the need to do system updates on both my PS3 and Vita as part of it).

It still doesn't fully feel real. After four years of waiting, I can't quite comprehend the fact that I'll be playing this game in five days. I probably won't fully believe it until the game is booting up.
 

epmode

Member
If you're having movie problems, run in windowed mode but at your desktop resolution. It'll run in borderless windowed, so it'll be just about as nice as fullscreen, and with a game this old, the performance hit is negligible at best.

Oh nice, I didn't even consider that it would do borderless without third-party software.

I just tested it and it fixed the problem. Thanks!

edit: I'm getting some judder when walking around though. I have a 144hz G-Sync monitor so you'd think it could handle anything but I can't find a setting that gets rid of it.
 

Sara

Member
Oh nice, I didn't even consider that it would do borderless without third-party software.

I just tested it and it fixed the problem. Thanks!

edit: I'm getting some judder when walking around though. I have a 144hz G-Sync monitor so you'd think it could handle anything but I can't find a setting that gets rid of it.

Weird. Maybe mess with the vsync setting and stuff?
 

Danny Dudekisser

I paid good money for this Dynex!
Actually, I recall getting a bit of stuttering, too. Wouldn't happen very often, but it was a little distracting. I was using a frame rate limiter, so maybe that had something to do with it.
 

wrowa

Member
When does FC save for the last time? Is it after the credits? And can you see the final save in the loading screen or is it hidden somewhere? There's nothing marked as "final save" or similar displayed in my load menu and I'm not sure if that's normal or if Steam ate the file. Just want to know if I have to play through the final stretch of FC again.
 

Sara

Member
When does FC save for the last time? Is it after the credits? And can you see the final save in the loading screen or is it hidden somewhere? There's nothing marked as "final save" or similar displayed in my load menu and I'm not sure if that's normal or if Steam ate the file. Just want to know if I have to play through the final stretch of FC again.

If you've saved after the last boss, SC will load it, but FC does save explicit "Clear Data" at the very end, after the credits.
Clear Data is labelled as exactly that in the file menu, and can be used to start a New Game+ in FC, but it isn't mandatory for SC as long as your save is after the last boss.
 

epmode

Member
Weird. Maybe mess with the vsync setting and stuff?

I completely disabled G-Sync (because it sometimes introduces a massive amount of judder in FC for some reason*), then played around with the configuration tool's refresh rates and vsync setting. Only the refresh rate seems to make a difference. The judder is almost gone at 85hz so I guess I'll stick with that. Vsync settings apparently make no difference, windowed or fullscreen makes no difference, graphics settings make no difference. Even changing my Windows refresh rate doesn't help. Windows 10, Nvidia card, 144hz G-Sync monitor.

I guess this problem is best written about elsewhere. Thanks for taking a look though.



* "Enable G-SYNC for windowed and full screen mode" introduces some crazy framerate problems in FC. Doesn't matter if I'm in fullscreen or borderless windowed. "Enable G-SYNC for full screen mode" goes back to the regular judder I mentioned earlier. I disabled G-Sync to simplify testing.
 

zakujanai

Member
If you're having movie problems, run in windowed mode but at your desktop resolution. It'll run in borderless windowed, so it'll be just about as nice as fullscreen, and with a game this old, the performance hit is negligible at best.

So you don't know what's caused the problem or if it can be fixed properly? It all worked fine back in June when I last loaded the game but has since stopped working.

Again, it's not a vital issue since I won't be playing FC again until after I'm done with SC (and Cold Steel).
 
"Us guys" nothin'! That's all Sara. Sara's a miracle-worker. Some say she can process information quicker than Data from ST:TNG, and that when she sets about programming, the language actually codes her.
All we know is, she's called The Stig! ...Wait, wrong show.

...Don't mind me. I'm in a weird mood today. I think we've all gone a little loopy, on account of this announcement finally coming to pass. It's been such a long time coming, we don't know what to do with ourselves right now. ;)

-Tom

You gave me Brandish, I'm always going to be grateful for that.


Dinosaur: Resurrection and Zwei!! when?


But yeah Sara is godlike.
 
I hear it gets ridiculous doing this in the Crossbell games. As it is, it took me about 100 hours to beat the game while doing this...though I should add that I'm a much slower player of Jrpgs than most people seem to be. It likely takes far less for other people to do it.


I've kept most of the soundtrack a secret from myself until I hear it ingame but I have heard Fight with Assailant before and it's so rad.

Same.

It's odd, as this soundtrack was my gateway to JDK and Falcom as a whole. It's been around 6/7 years after hearing Silver Will, Golden Wings, Merciless Savior, and Fateful Confrontation while nooding around "Best VGM" lists and just getting floored. So in a way, the thirst to hear this in situ has been longer than most by a few years. It's a momentus event!
 

kswiston

Member
...Don't mind me. I'm in a weird mood today. I think we've all gone a little loopy, on account of this announcement finally coming to pass. It's been such a long time coming, we don't know what to do with ourselves right now. ;)

-Tom

Congrats on finally getting this out the door after so long. Only 5 more days until people start bugging you to localize Third Chapter!
 
...Don't mind me. I'm in a weird mood today. I think we've all gone a little loopy, on account of this announcement finally coming to pass. It's been such a long time coming, we don't know what to do with ourselves right now. ;)

-Tom

Start on Third Chapter

--crosses arms and sneers menacingly--
 

Shenmue

Banned
No chance whatsoever on an extremely limited physical run right? If not I'll be buying the digital version still of course and buying a physical JP copy.
 
No chance whatsoever on an extremely limited physical run right? If not I'll be buying the digital version still of course and buying a physical JP copy.

Unlike Vic's stuff, PSP Trails SC is a two-UMD game when distributed in its physical edition. The manufacturing costs alone are absolutely prohibitive, especially today. Manufacture of the PSP edition ended even in Japan years ago, IIRC; that's one of the reasons Japan is getting the "Evolution" editions of the Sky games, native for the Vita.
 

Shenmue

Banned
Unlike Vic's stuff, PSP Trails SC is a two-UMD game when distributed in its physical edition. The manufacturing costs alone are absolutely prohibitive, especially today. Manufacture of the PSP edition ended even in Japan years ago, IIRC; that's one of the reasons Japan is getting the "Evolution" editions of the Sky games, native for the Vita.

Ah makes sense. Well I'll do as i did for ace attorney 5 then and get NA digital and JP physical for the shelf.
 

Diablos54

Member
Start on Third Chapter

--crosses arms and sneers menacingly--
Exactly what I was thinking!

I joke of course, take your time and relax! FC took me almost 55 hours and I'm not exactly a slow player either. Assuming SC is a big as they say no wonder it took so long! Relax, then think about 3rd ;).
 
I took around 82 hours just listening to all the NPC lines in the middle of my playthrough, lol. SC might not be as tough for me now that I know the game loop in general, but that should take just as long if not a little bit longer.
 
I took around 82 hours just listening to all the NPC lines in the middle of my playthrough, lol. SC might not be as tough for me now that I know the game loop in general, but that should take just as long if not a little bit longer.
Well from what other people say, SC will take longer just on virtue of being a longer game. Good thing Estelle is a people person.
 

wyrdwad

XSEED Localization Specialist
So...what's improved in part 2? I started playing part 1, but it's kind of slow going.

It's not really a matter of what's improved (there are some new systems in place, but nothing super-major) -- rather, it's a matter of continuing the story, as FC ends on a cliffhanger and SC picks up literally the next morning.

And yeah, FC is *extremely* slow -- I always tell people, "play till the play," as there's a play in chapter 2 which is when things really start to pick up. After that, it just gets more and more interesting, eventually culminating in the exceptional chapter 4 (the game's final chapter) before cliffhanging.

It's a slow burn, but the payoff is worth it (and makes the slow introductory scenes a lot more tolerable, since they're all basically setting the stage for chapter 4 and Trails SC).

-Tom
 

DonMigs85

Member
Anybody know where I can download a good save file for the first game's PC version? I played it on PSP but wanna get SC on Steam this time.
 

Danny Dudekisser

I paid good money for this Dynex!
The more I read of this thread, the more hyped I get for this thing. Think I want to wait till I get my new monitor, and the. I'll dig into the first game. I love Falcom, and all the praise these two games get can't be for nothing.

Will preorder as soon as it goes up on GOG.
 

OmegaDL50

Member
FC on my Vita TV is a hideous mess when compared to FC on my PC connected to the same TV. I implore you not to do that to yourself.

Isn't the PC version of SC also using the PS3 quality sprites which were an improvement over the PSP ones anyways?
 

FLD

Member
It's a slow burn, but the payoff is worth it (and makes the slow introductory scenes a lot more tolerable, since they're all basically setting the stage for chapter 4 and Trails SC).

I've been wondering about that. When I first played FC, I went in completely blind and it kinda backfired. The pacing really threw me off, I kept waiting for something to happen, for the story to get good, and it felt like it took way too long to get there.

I replayed the game on Steam over the summer (to get a clear save ready for SC) and knowing ahead of time what to expect in regards to the pacing made the entire game much more enjoyable. So, is SC faster to get going? Or should I brace myself for another slow start?
 

Sara

Member
Isn't the PC version of SC also using the PS3 quality sprites which were an improvement over the PSP ones anyways?

PS3 sprites are equivalent to PC sprites, which are definitely an improvement over the PSP ones nonetheless -- On PSP, most graphics were reduced to about 75% size or less at the actual graphics file level.
 

Aeana

Member
I've been wondering about that. When I first played FC, I went in completely blind and it kinda backfired. The pacing really threw me off, I kept waiting for something to happen, for the story to get good, and it felt like it took way too long to get there.

I replayed the game on Steam over the summer (to get a clear save ready for SC) and knowing ahead of time what to expect in regards to the pacing made the entire game much more enjoyable. So, is SC faster to get going? Or should I brace myself for another slow start?
SC has earlier and more frequent bouts of excitement, but it comes in waves. Just as quickly as a big cool event happens, you're back to the usual low-key routine.
 
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