KefkaPalazzo
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Well, Microsoft is never working with him again. That is for sure.
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Transgender journalist at EG Expo called "this person" on stage at MS event (See OP)
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Given that it was a comic, I'm not gonna buy that. MS hired some amateur who doesn't know the difference between a corporate gig and curtain jerking in rural Texas.
Chezzymann
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I hate to admit it, but when I was a kid I used to refer to transgender people as "it", not because I was trying to degrade them, but because I was honestly confused on the whole issue and did not know the proper pronouns.
Wrestlemania
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"Thing" - pretty neutral!
Calling someone "it" is never a good choice. "Thing" is absolutely inexcusable.
I'm not sure why the stage staff refused to give the full name of the presenter.
I don't think the staff handbook covers the topic.
Either way common sense should kick in.
How would you feel if someone called you "it" or "thing". Pretty damn horrible I bet.
MesserWolf
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For me intentions are important .... Was the guy trying to insult / be rude on purpose or was just a misstep ? It counts doesn't it ?
EDIT :
read better .... so it was supposed to be a comical moment ? well ... not well thought to say the least.
Red Liquorice
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This kind of thing pisses me just as much as the original ignorant jibes on stage. "We're sorry you were offended" - Such a backhanded apology, you see it a lot from politicians and other insincere self-serving public people.
Via Purifico
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I don't get it, this could all have been avoided if he had just talked to her and apologized. It's not like comedians aren't allowed to.
I'm not saying what he did was acceptable, but I think she's overreacting in regards the whole "I want to drop out of this industry" business.
It was a comedian, who is not a part of the industry. And does she really think that this industry is way worse than other entertainment industries?
Sucks, awful, and that's really embarrassing. But aim your anger at the right thing.
It was a comedian, who is not a part of the industry. And does she really think that this industry is way worse than other entertainment industries?
Sucks, awful, and that's really embarrassing. But aim your anger at the right thing.
3rdamention
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So awful, these are the types of actions you cannot just forgive and forget.
Didn't the Killer Instict devs say something equally awful?
I am waiting for the PR Spin on this one. An apology will be good but won't change anything, the damage is done.
Didn't the Killer Instict devs say something equally awful?
I am waiting for the PR Spin on this one. An apology will be good but won't change anything, the damage is done.
TetraGenesis
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That's totally understandable. The difference here being: you then grew up, became an adult and knew better.
He probably wasn't trying to be disrespectful onstage at a live event, but ignorance isn't any kind of excuse for calling someone an "it". Obviously if he apologizes profusely and begs forgiveness then perhaps we can not consider him a piece of human trash, but till then that's what he is.
childplease
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Ahhh hes a comedian.
It all makes sense now. Was he simply just messing with her and he went a bit too far ?
It all makes sense now. Was he simply just messing with her and he went a bit too far ?
Laughing_Man__
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I feel stupid. What is going on?
AHA-Lambda
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Wow, I didn't see this, that's fucking shocking 
legacyzero
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No.... No it certainly doesn't. How would you feel if I called you "it"? You simple never call anybody that, REGARDLESS of gender.
GumDumpster
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Yup. Seems so.
EightBitNate
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I'm not sure about the KI one, but I'm pretty sure that one was blown out of proportion. I think people misinterpreted what the guy said ("just let it happen" = rape joke)
Sho_Nuff82
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Jesus Christ MS, just fire everyone involved with your PR. They've spent way too much of the past year getting blazed out of their minds.
Impeccable
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You can't just veil blatant hate under the guise of comedy.
Laughing_Man__
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Not a PR person. It was some idiot comedian.
Brianimaniac
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People blaming Microsoft need to learn to read. There's no virtue in posting as fast as possible without even understanding what you're commenting on.
Being a comedian doesn't mean he can say whatever he wants and even if he thought he was being funny it was still disrespectful to her and he shouldn't get a free pass for it.
It's not like he tweeted something offensive, he humiliated her in front of an audience.
We can't we all get along is something that I still don't understand until this day.
Was this event live anywhere, I mean when Laura went on the Stage? The person who acted like that does not only lack intelligence but lacks respect for others which is a shame and should feel bad about ruining the day for the journalist. I hope things can go better from now on regarding Laura but sometimes, things like this destroys not only the self esteem but also bring the morale down which is something needed to wake up and work every day.
I also don't understand, at all, why someone like that poster called Rashid feels the need to write such unnecessary words. It adds nothing to the discussion and it's not polite at all.
Was this event live anywhere, I mean when Laura went on the Stage? The person who acted like that does not only lack intelligence but lacks respect for others which is a shame and should feel bad about ruining the day for the journalist. I hope things can go better from now on regarding Laura but sometimes, things like this destroys not only the self esteem but also bring the morale down which is something needed to wake up and work every day.
I also don't understand, at all, why someone like that poster called Rashid feels the need to write such unnecessary words. It adds nothing to the discussion and it's not polite at all.
GumDumpster
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Expand on this.
semiconscious
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Funchameleon
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The Killer Instinct event mostly felt hilariously (darkly) unfortunate, honestly. This is something else entirely.
Diablo Rosso
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Just despicable.
I think refering to her as an object or being rude about her gender is frowned upon.
Zuhzuhzombie!!
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It's 2013. No excuse.
Funchameleon
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MesserWolf
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Well if it was me I would probably laugh at his face =) .... but different people ..... different sensibilities and so on.
Honestly it is hard for me to consider this anything more than distasteful (so not such a big deal to me).
We should have been there to assess the mood and the kind of show that was going on. It is hard to judge things like this outside their context. I mean..... often comedians are rude/ politically not correct and so on.....
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