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[Kurosaki Ichigo]

Janus posted it at the japan thread but I think it deserves a new thread. Credits goes to him anyway
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3551271&postcount=153

From ELSPA report...
http://www.elspa.com/assets/files/0/20060505174657708_319.pdf

Hardware (in million units)

Platform 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 LTD
PS1 0.80 0.53 0.37 0.17 0.08 0.03 7.19
PS2 0.16 1.62 1.94 1.69 1.29 1.34 8.03
Xbox 0.56 0.62 0.64 0.33 2.14
GameCube 0.42 0.35 0.25 0.13 1.15
Game Boy 1.40 0.69 0.07 0.00 6.63
Game Boy Advance 0.80 0.75 0.45 0.15 0.02 2.17
Game Boy Advance SP 0.81 1.04 0.53 2.38
DS 0.95 0.95
PSP 0.81 0.81
Xbox 360 0.15 0.15
Total Hardware 2.36 3.64 4.11 4.08 3.44 4.28
Value (£millions) 207.80 536.48 563.53 464.51 304.25 563.97

Software (in million units)

Platform 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005
PS1 16.10 15.50 7.90 5.31 2.22 0.34
PS2 0.40 7.30 16.10 21.52 26.96 26.50
Xbox 2.09 4.66 7.14 6.57
GameCube 1.70 2.72 2.42 1.22
Game Boy 4.30 3.90 0.95 0.12 0.05 0.00
Game Boy Advance 1.6 2.70 3.60 4.09 3.42
DS 1.85
PSP 2.92
Xbox 360 0.44
PC Games 13.1 14.5 14.7 15.8 14.7 14.3
Total above 33.90 42.80 46.14 53.73 57.55 57.52
Yr on yr change 26.3% 7.8% 16.5% 7.1% -0.1%

PS2 total 98.78m (Ratio 12,3:1)
I'll do the other totals later...

Top sellers – all formats
POSN Title Publisher
1 FIFA 06 ELECTRONIC ARTS
2 PRO EVOLUTION SOCCER 5 KONAMI
3 NEED FOR SPEED: MOST WANTED ELECTRONIC ARTS
4 GRAN TURISMO 4 SONY COMPUTER ENT.
5 STAR WARS EP III: REVENGE OF THE SITH LUCASARTS
6 FIFA STREET ELECTRONIC ARTS
7 STAR WARS: BATTLEFRONT II LUCASARTS
8 GRAND THEFT AUTO: SAN ANDREAS TAKE 2
9 KING KONG: OFFICIAL GAME OF THE MOVIE UBISOFT
10 THE SIMS 2 ELECTRONIC ARTS
11 HARRY POTTER AND THE GOBLET OF FIRE ELECTRONIC ARTS
12 LEGO STAR WARS TT/EIDOS
13 THE SIMPSONS: HIT & RUN VIVENDI UNIVERSAL GAMES
14 GRAND THEFT AUTO: LIBERTY CITY STORIES TAKE 2
15 CALL OF DUTY 2: BIG RED ONE ACTIVISION
16 WWE SMACKDOWN! VS RAW 2006 THQ
17 NEED FOR SPEED: UNDERGROUND 2 ELECTRONIC ARTS
18 THE INCREDIBLES THQ
19 PRO EVOLUTION SOCCER 4 KONAMI
20 TOM CLANCY'S SPLINTER CELL: CHAOS THEORY UBISOFT

Top sellers – PlayStation 2
POSN Title Publisher
1 FIFA 06 ELECTRONIC ARTS
2 GRAN TURISMO 4 SONY COMPUTER ENT.
3 PRO EVOLUTION SOCCER 5 KONAMI
4 NEED FOR SPEED: MOST WANTED ELECTRONIC ARTS
5 FIFA STREET ELECTRONIC ARTS
6 STAR WARS EP III: REVENGE OF THE SITH LUCASARTS
7 STAR WARS: BATTLEFRONT II LUCASARTS
8 LEGO STAR WARS TT GAMES
9 WWE SMACKDOWN! VS RAW 2006 THQ
10 KING KONG: OFFICIAL GAME OF THE MOVIE UBISOFT
11 THE SIMPSONS: HIT & RUN VIVENDI UNIVERSAL GAMES
12 CALL OF DUTY 2: BIG RED ONE ACTIVISION
13 GRAND THEFT AUTO: SAN ANDREAS TAKE 2
14 METAL GEAR SOLID 3: SNAKE EATER KONAMI
15 MEDAL OF HONOR: EUROPEAN ASSAULT ELECTRONIC ARTS
16 HARRY POTTER AND THE GOBLET OF FIRE ELECTRONIC ARTS
17 PRO EVOLUTION SOCCER 4 KONAMI
18 NEED FOR SPEED: UNDERGROUND 2 ELECTRONIC ARTS
19 50 CENT: BULLETPROOF VIVENDI UNIVERSAL GAMES
20 JUICED THQ

Top sellers – Xbox
POSN TITLE GROUP
1 GRAND THEFT AUTO: SAN ANDREAS TAKE 2
2 FORZA MOTORSPORT MICROSOFT
3 FIFA 06 ELECTRONIC ARTS
4 DOOM 3 ACTIVISION
5 TOM CLANCY'S SPLINTER CELL: CHAOS THEORY UBISOFT
6 STAR WARS EP III: REVENGE OF THE SITH LUCASARTS
7 HALO 2 MICROSOFT
8 STAR WARS: BATTLEFRONT II LUCASARTS
9 NEED FOR SPEED: MOST WANTED ELECTRONIC ARTS
10 PRO EVOLUTION SOCCER 5 KONAMI
11 STAR WARS: KNIGHTS OF THE OLD REPUBLIC 2 LUCASARTS
12 PRO EVOLUTION SOCCER 4 KONAMI
13 BROTHERS IN ARMS: ROAD TO HILL 30 UBISOFT
14 FIFA STREET ELECTRONIC ARTS
15 MERCENARIES LUCASARTS
16 CALL OF DUTY 2: BIG RED ONE ACTIVISION
17 FAR CRY: INSTINCTS UBISOFT
18 STAR WARS: REPUBLIC COMMANDO LUCASARTS
19 KING KONG: OFFICIAL GAME OF THE MOVIE UBISOFT
20 BURNOUT REVENGE ELECTRONIC ARTS

Top sellers – GameCube
POSN TITLE GROUP
1 RESIDENT EVIL 4 CAPCOM
2 MARIO POWER TENNIS NINTENDO
3 SONIC ADVENTURE 2: BATTLE ATARI
4 SONIC HEROES SEGA
5 MARIO PARTY 6 NINTENDO
6 SHADOW THE HEDGEHOG SEGA
7 THE LEGEND OF ZELDA: FOUR SWORDS NINTENDO
8 METROID PRIME 2: ECHOES NINTENDO
9 THE INCREDIBLES THQ
10 POKEMON XD: GALE OF DARKNESS NINTENDO
11 DONKEY KONGA NINTENDO
12 STAR FOX ASSAULT NINTENDO
13 THE LEGEND OF ZELDA: THE WIND WAKER NINTENDO
14 MARIO SMASH FOOTBALL NINTENDO
15 FIFA 06 ELECTRONIC ARTS
16 FIFA STREET ELECTRONIC ARTS
17 DONKEY KONG: JUNGLE BEAT NINTENDO
18 SONIC MEGA COLLECTION ATARI
19 WWE: DAY OF RECKONING 2 THQ
20 SUPER MARIO SUNSHINE NINTENDO

Top sellers – Game Boy Advance
POSN TITLE GROUP
1 POKEMON EMERALD NINTENDO
2 SIMPSONS: ROAD RAGE THQ
3 THE INCREDIBLES THQ
4 SCOOBY-DOO! MYSTERY MAYHEM THQ
5 BRATZ: ROCK ANGELZ THQ
6 POKEMON FIRE RED NINTENDO
7 POKEMON LEAF GREEN NINTENDO
8 MADAGASCAR ACTIVISION
9 THE SPONGEBOB SQUAREPANTS MOVIE THQ
10 FINDING NEMO THQ
11 SPONGEBOB: SUPER SPONGE THQ
12 CHARLIE AND THE CHOCOLATE FACTORY TAKE 2
13 MONSTERS, INC. THQ
14 SCOOBY DOO CYBER CHASE / MYSTERY THQ
15 SONIC ADVANCE 3 THQ
16 POWER RANGERS: DINO THUNDER THQ
17 CRASH & SPYRO SUPER PACK VOL 2 VIVENDI UNIVERSAL GAMES
18 HARRY POTTER AND THE GOBLET OF FIRE ELECTRONIC ARTS
19 DISNEY PRINCESS / THE LION KING THQ
20 LEGO STAR WARS TT GAMES

Top sellers – Nintendo DS
POSN TITLE GROUP
1 SUPER MARIO 64 DS NINTENDO
2 MARIO KART DS NINTENDO
3 NINTENDOGS: LAB & FRIENDS NINTENDO
4 WARIO WARE TOUCHED! NINTENDO
5 STAR WARS EP III: REVENGE OF THE SITH UBISOFT
6 SONIC RUSH SEGA
7 NINTENDOGS: DACHSHUND & FRIENDS NINTENDO
8 RAYMAN DS UBISOFT
9 ASPHALT: URBAN GT UBISOFT
10 ZOO KEEPER IGNITION
11 THE SIMS 2 ELECTRONIC ARTS
12 POKEMON DASH NINTENDO
13 NINTENDOGS: CHIHUAHUA & FRIENDS NINTENDO
14 HARRY POTTER AND THE GOBLET OF FIRE ELECTRONIC ARTS
15 THE URBZ: SIMS IN THE CITY ELECTRONIC ARTS
16 NARNIA: THE LION, THE WITCH & WARDROBE BUENA VISTA GAMES
17 YOSHI TOUCH & GO NINTENDO
18 SPIDER-MAN 2 ACTIVISION
19 NEED FOR SPEED: UNDERGROUND 2 ELECTRONIC ARTS
20 MADAGASCAR ACTIVISION

Top sellers – Sony PSP
POSN TITLE GROUP
1 GRAND THEFT AUTO: LIBERTY CITY STORIES TAKE 2
2 WORLD TOUR SOCCER SONY COMPUTER ENT.
3 PRO EVOLUTION SOCCER 5 KONAMI
4 FIFA 06 ELECTRONIC ARTS
5 NEED FOR SPEED: MOST WANTED ELECTRONIC ARTS
6 BURNOUT LEGENDS ELECTRONIC ARTS
7 RIDGE RACER SONY COMPUTER ENT.
8 PURSUIT FORCE SONY COMPUTER ENT.
9 MIDNIGHT CLUB 3: DUB EDITION TAKE 2
10 LUMINES UBISOFT
11 WIPEOUT PURE SONY COMPUTER ENT.
12 EVERYBODY'S GOLF SONY COMPUTER ENT.
13 VIRTUA TENNIS: WORLD TOUR SEGA
14 STAR WARS: BATTLEFRONT II LUCASARTS
15 METAL GEAR AC!D KONAMI
16 NEED FOR SPEED UNDERGROUND: RIVALS ELECTRONIC ARTS
17 HARRY POTTER AND THE GOBLET OF FIRE ELECTRONIC ARTS
18 WWE SMACKDOWN! VS RAW 2006 THQ
19 TIGER WOODS PGA TOUR 06 ELECTRONIC ARTS
20 TOCA RACE DRIVER 2 CODEMASTERS

Top sellers – Xbox 360
POSN TITLE GROUP
1 PERFECT DARK ZERO MICROSOFT
2 PROJECT GOTHAM RACING 3 MICROSOFT
3 CALL OF DUTY 2 ACTIVISION
4 NEED FOR SPEED: MOST WANTED ELECTRONIC ARTS
5 FIFA 06 ELECTRONIC ARTS
6 CONDEMNED: CRIMINAL ORIGINS SEGA
7 KING KONG: OFFICIAL GAME OF THE MOVIE UBISOFT
8 KAMEO: ELEMENTS OF POWER MICROSOFT
9 QUAKE 4 ACTIVISION
10 TIGER WOODS PGA TOUR 06 ELECTRONIC ARTS
11 GUN ACTIVISION
12 TONY HAWK'S AMERICAN WASTELAND ACTIVISION
13 MADDEN NFL 06 ELECTRONIC ARTS
14 AMPED 3 TAKE 2
15 NBA LIVE 06 ELECTRONIC ARTS

Top sellers – PC
POSN TITLE GROUP
1 FOOTBALL MANAGER 2006 SEGA
2 THE SIMS 2 ELECTRONIC ARTS
3 THE SIMS 2: UNIVERSITY ELECTRONIC ARTS
4 WORLD OF WARCRAFT VIVENDI UNIVERSAL GAMES
5 CHAMPIONSHIP MANAGER 5 EIDOS
6 FOOTBALL MANAGER 2005 SEGA
7 THE SIMS 2: NIGHTLIFE ELECTRONIC ARTS
8 BATTLEFIELD 2 ELECTRONIC ARTS
9 HALF-LIFE 2 VIVENDI UNIVERSAL GAMES
10 CALL OF DUTY 2 ACTIVISION
11 AGE OF EMPIRES III MICROSOFT
12 ROME: TOTAL WAR ACTIVISION
13 GUILD WARS NCSOFT EUROPE
14 LORD OF THE RINGS - BATTLE MIDDLE EARTH ELECTRONIC ARTS
15 SIM CITY 3000: UK EDITION ELECTRONIC ARTS
16 DRIVING TEST SUCCESS THEORY FOCUS MULTIMEDIA
17 CIVILIZATION IV TAKE 2
18 THE SIMS 2: CHRISTMAS PARTY PACK ELECTRONIC ARTS
19 GRAND THEFT AUTO: SAN ANDREAS TAKE 2
20 ROME: TOTAL WAR – BARBARIAN INVASION SEGA

There are more charts in the report (along more tid bits of info regarding tops)

 

[Borys]

PC gaming loses only to PS2.

Europe ROCKS!

(hugs his PS2, GCN and PC)

 

[McBacon]

Top sellers – all formats

6 FIFA STREET ELECTRONIC ARTS
9 KING KONG: OFFICIAL GAME OF THE MOVIE UBISOFT
11 HARRY POTTER AND THE GOBLET OF FIRE ELECTRONIC ARTS
13 THE SIMPSONS: HIT & RUN VIVENDI UNIVERSAL GAMES
18 THE INCREDIBLES THQ

I hate my country

 

[Kabouter]

PC gaming loses only to PS2.

Europe ROCKS!

(hugs his PS2, GCN and PC)

We all know Europe is the last bastion of sanity.
Germany and Sweden especially gaming-wise .

 

[Andy787]

Hardware:
DS 0.95 0.95
PSP 0.81 0.81

Software:
DS 1.85
PSP 2.92

This is why third parties will always return to Sony, even if their platform isn't what gamers want. Especially considering the majority of the DS software number consists of solely of Nintendo-made games.

 

[DSXBoy]

Janus posted it at the japan thread but I think it deserves a new thread. Credits goes to him anyway
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3551271&postcount=153

From ELSPA report...
http://www.elspa.com/assets/files/0/20060505174657708_319.pdf

Hardware (in million units)


Software (in million units)

DS 1.85
PSP 2.92

PS2 total 98.78m (Ratio 12,3:1)
I'll do the other totals later...

...

I bet the software figures for NDS don't include Maria Kart & Nintendogs bundles. Those bundles have had huge sales & if added would substantially boost the software figure.

 

[Emotions]

This is why third parties will always return to Sony, even if their platform isn't what gamers want. Especially considering the majority of the DS software number consists of solely of Nintendo-made games.

That's why the DS has such a shitty line up am i rite?

 

[VALIS]

OMG IT'S ON NOW!!!!

(i don't know what's on as i didn't even read the data, i just feel like yelling in a sales thread)

 

[Andy787]

That's why the DS has such a shitty line up am i rite?

like i said that i kno rite

 

[lancubap]

Thanks ! Very interesting.

 

[Emotions]

like i said that i kno rite

are you pulling a mono or was the for real?

 

[DefectiveReject]

All well and good but the DS has had a massive run this year, and a lot of software sales.

 

[Jonnyram]

What is the DC LTD?

 

[DSXBoy]

That's why the DS has such a shitty line up am i rite?

PSP line up are mostly PS2 ports & there is a near consensus amongst the informed gaming community including most unbiased gaming journalists that DS has a much better games than PSP.

 

[drohne]

That's why the DS has such a shitty line up am i rite?

ds's shitty lineup has more to do with its awful hardware design, imo. it has some strong gba-style content, but almost anything that attempts 3d or touchscreen use is worthless. not that any one factor can fully account for the ds's poor software!

 

[Yoshi]

are you pulling a mono or was the for real?

It's just Andy, he's always like this .

 

[marc^o^]

ds's shitty lineup has more to do with its awful hardware design, imo. it has some strong gba-style content, but almost anything that attempts 3d or touchscreen use is worthless. not that any one factor can fully account for the ds's poor software!

This Nintendo trolling post was brought to you by drohne.

 

[Andy787]

Hay guys, guess what? I like the DS library way more than the PSP's. Go back and read what I first posted.

My point has nothing to do with the quality of the games.

 

[B_Rik_Schitthaus]

ds's shitty lineup has more to do with its awful hardware design, imo. it has some strong gba-style content, but almost anything that attempts 3d or touchscreen use is worthless. not that any one factor can fully account for the ds's poor software!

Its very hard to tell with you gafers whether some posts are sarcastic or not, I'm guessing that since this post is complete bullshit that it is in fact sarcastic. Very funny drohne, good one.

 

[Striek]

This Nintendo trolling post was brought to you by drohne.

I dunno, 2D games w/o much use for touchscreen is where DS is shining.

 

[Kangu]

PSP line up are mostly PS2 ports & there is a near consensus amongst the informed gaming community including most unbiased gaming journalists that DS has a much better games than PSP.

This Sony trolling post was brought to you by DSXBoy.

 

[Frankfurter]

DS 0.95 0.95
PSP 0.81 0.81

:lol
Finally the confirmation that Gaybrushs numbers were 100% spot on, whereas Charttracks are off.

 

[starship]

Platform 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 LTD
PS1 0.80 0.53 0.37 0.17 0.08 0.03 7.19
PS2 0.16 1.62 1.94 1.69 1.29 1.34 8.03
Xbox 0.56 0.62 0.64 0.33 2.14
GameCube 0.42 0.35 0.25 0.13 1.15
Game Boy 1.40 0.69 0.07 0.00 6.63
Game Boy Advance 0.80 0.75 0.45 0.15 0.02 2.17
Game Boy Advance SP 0.81 1.04 0.53 2.38
DS 0.95 0.95
PSP 0.81 0.81
Xbox 360 0.15 0.15
Total Hardware 2.36 3.64 4.11 4.08 3.44 4.28
Value (£millions) 207.80 536.48 563.53 464.51 304.25 563.97

Oh, yeah. I remeber those who claimed that DS had only 5k advantage over PSP at the end of 2005.

 

[starship]

And remember that these are only UK charts, DS is well ahead of PSP in Europe (by more than 1m - 2m units)

 

[AniHawk]

That's pretty impressive considering how many more months the DS had on the market.

Then again, the DS didnt get any shelf space and it IS Sonyland, so it could go either way I suppose.

 

[Souldriver]

So, from the end of 2005 until now, the PSP has sold 15,000 units while the DS has sold 150,000 units. Wow.

Based on what info do you come to that conclusion?

 

[AniHawk]

Based on what info do you come to that conclusion?

I mixed up Chart track with ELPSA.

 

[Robinspain]

Interesting numbers. PS2 is amazing.

In Spain similar situation: ps2 well well well ahead from xbox and gc (specially in terms of software.). Xbox 360 had a nice fall (software sales where good and also its tie-ratio). Nds has sold more hardware than psp, but speaking of software (total numbers) psp is well ahead.

 

[Striek]

And remember that these are only UK charts, DS is well ahead of PSP in Europe (by more than 1m - 2m units)

1-2M units or more? Where did you pull that from?

 

[AniHawk]

1-2M units or more? Where did you pull that from?

Prolly Germany and France.

 

[bovo]

Top sellers – all formats

6 FIFA STREET ELECTRONIC ARTS
9 KING KONG: OFFICIAL GAME OF THE MOVIE UBISOFT
11 HARRY POTTER AND THE GOBLET OF FIRE ELECTRONIC ARTS
13 THE SIMPSONS: HIT & RUN VIVENDI UNIVERSAL GAMES
18 THE INCREDIBLES THQ

I hate my country

I know. Children like games too. Its a terrible state of affairs that games based on popular children's entertainments sell well.

(PS see every other best seller chart - worldwide, not just for games - to see exactly the same....)

EDIT: I know fifa street isn't "children's entertainment", but i'm not letting that get in the way of a good rant...

 

[Mmmkay]

Oh, yeah. I remeber those who claimed that DS had only 5k advantage over PSP at the end of 2005.

Eh, blame Chart Track. It was their numbers before, and it's their numbers again.

 

[MrSardonic]

This is why third parties will always return to Sony, even if their platform isn't what gamers want. Especially considering the majority of the DS software number consists of solely of Nintendo-made games.

you know these are just UK numbers right?

 

[The Innocent X]

Xbox 360 0.15 0.15

Seems a bit odd given that that was the number of launch machines in the uk.

 

[Tadaima]

Xbox 360 0.15 0.15

Seems a bit odd given that that was the number of launch machines in the uk.

Well, it did sell out. I expected something around that figure. It's super-easy to get hold of one now, though.

 

[The Innocent X]

Well, it did sell out. I expected something around that figure. It's super-easy to get hold of one now, though.

Yes, but there were at least two shipments after that (I got mine in amazons third batch) so I would have expected it to be more like 200K

 

[ioi]

Oh, yeah. I remeber those who claimed that DS had only 5k advantage over PSP at the end of 2005.

Haha, yes I remember that too. Is Sonycowboy around at all?

:lol

"What, you don't believe Chart Track? Are you saying they are lying or something? There is no way a reputable sales tracking agency like that could be wrong"

Erm, it looks like they were once again mate ;-) Just like NPD



You can infer other hardware totals from the report as well:

PS1: 7.19m
PS2: 8.03m

GB: 6.63m
GBA: 4.55m
DS: 0.95m

N64: 1.90m
GC: 1.15m

DC: 0.60m

XB: 2.14m
X360: 0.15m

 

[starship]

Haha, yes I remember that too. Is Sonycowboy around at all?

:lol

"What, you don't believe Chart Track? Are you saying they are lying or something? There is no way a reputable sales tracking agency like that could be wrong"

Erm, it looks like they were once again mate ;-) Just like NPD

:lol

 

[Frankfurter]

Interesting numbers. PS2 is amazing.

In Spain similar situation: ps2 well well well ahead from xbox and gc (specially in terms of software.). Xbox 360 had a nice fall (software sales where good and also its tie-ratio). Nds has sold more hardware than psp, but speaking of software (total numbers) psp is well ahead.

Bundles say "hi".

 

[starship]

1-2M units or more? Where did you pull that from?

Yes, because UK =! Europe.

 

[starship]

I bet by the end of this year, the difference between DS and PSP sales WW will be more than 11m units. Kudos to Nintendo

 

[Robinspain]

Of course, NDS bundles are there... and I think that's why nds tie-ration is smaller... but I don't know if this is good or not.

 

[Jokeropia]

Good or not? It simply means that the actual tie ratio is higher than the numbers suggest. I believe the software sales have increased this year with Animal Crossing's onslaught as well.

 

[reminder]

I read often "DS Bundles not counted". My question is, are PSP Bundles counted?

 

[Mmmkay]

I read often "DS Bundles not counted". My question is, are PSP Bundles counted?

Sony didn't start 'proper' bundles until 2006. Those bundles wouldn't be counted as the software is included in the SKU. The 'forced' bundles they put out late 2005 were included in software sales because consumers were forced to purchase retail titles along with their PSP.

 

[Konnjuta]

LTD=list to date?

PS2 total 98.78m (Ratio 12,3:1)
I'll do the other totals later...

12.3:1 only for tie ratio? Man I'm obviously subsidying at least 3 others people to get that ratio.

 

[jarrod]

This is why third parties will always return to Sony, even if their platform isn't what gamers want. Especially considering the majority of the DS software number consists of solely of Nintendo-made games.

You forgot the best part...

Hardware
GBA 0.55
DS 0.95
PSP 0.81

Software
GBA 3.42
DS 1.85
PSP 2.92

...as with PS2 in 2000, it seems backwards compatibility has stunted launch year DS software sales. Most UK owners were probably buying Pokemon Emerald or Sonic Advance Collections this year. Looking at PS2 trends, we probably won't see DS fully take the lead until 2007.

I read often "DS Bundles not counted". My question is, are PSP Bundles counted?

Only when it's bundled post manufacturing, like with Pursuit Force or World Tour Soccer. PSP's UK software sales were artificially swelled by post manufacturing, Sony authorized bundles early on, both these D list games were consistantly charting in the top 40 thanks only to launch window hardware demand.

By comparison the DS bundles for Nintendogs and Mario Kart were post launch rush, at the manufacturing level and alongside a gameless hardware SKU... so not only would they not show up in the software charts, but sales were likely due to value/game demand rather than just wanting to get new hardware.

 

[Shompola]

Yes, but there were at least two shipments after that (I got mine in amazons third batch) so I would have expected it to be more like 200K

I cant really recall anything from last year sorry.. But there were three batches December last year? How many each batch? Thanks in advance.

 

[The Innocent X]

I cant really recall anything from last year sorry.. But there were three batches December last year? How many each batch? Thanks in advance.

I`m not sure of numbers. But there were the launch machines, then a small second batch after a week, then the batch where I got mine on about the 16th December. I think MS were just shipping them in as fast as possible, and Amazon just happened to be restocked twice before christmas.

 

[Kurosaki Ichigo]

Anyway, total DS hardware sales are 0.95m so you just have to ask Gaybrush what percentage of those were bundled with a game.

I don't think it'll be more than 0.3 or 0.4m, we add that to the total software and we get like 2.1-2.2m soft for DS. (This is guesstimation, powered by ioi )


12:1 ratio for PS2 is pretty amazing, its only 9:1 according to shipments for Europe. UK is making the difference for more pirate countries like mine I suppose :lol