The Artisan
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so get the damn VAs, then. problem solved! it was a good dlc nonetheless.
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Uncharted 4: A Thief's End Multiplayer |OT| Swinging To Victory
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so get the damn VAs, then. problem solved! it was a good dlc nonetheless.
Negotiator
Member
They're not going to pay voice actors for a dozen different languages (people tend to forget that video games are not English only) for a game that doesn't really have a huge MP population to justify the investment.
SpikedGunner
Member
To be honest, I'm afraid if they did, we'll get another Flynn situation...I miss playing him.
The Artisan
Member
How hard would it be to find the same actors again though come on it's money
Also yo random thought it would be cool if they got Kazuma Kiryu as a dlc. He was in a hot shots golf iirc.
#1 defender
Member
If it was that easy, we wouldn't have to make do with Fake Flynn. And Kiryu didn't even make it into PS All-Stars, much less Uncharted. Hell, we didn't even get him and Akiyama in the western version of Binary Domain mp, which had the same dev and publisher as the Yakuza games. Although, if they made a sequell to the former (or BD, for that matter), i suppose his chances would be exponentially higher now.
FantasticMrFoxdie
Mumber
Oh man I hope they do this.
#1 defender
Member
It's not a new skin, just put headphones or a headset on any Nadine skin and she will wear a ponytail.
https://twitter.com/Naughty_Dog/status/896065625335910400
Please ND, don't water down this co-op mode with tedium and bollocks like the current "Surivival" mode
Rewrite
Not as deep as he thinks
Told you survival arena is coming! Interested in it, but I hope they don't fuck it up like how awful regular 'survival' is.
Also, MP needs some more love man. Where's the labs? Maps? Granted, I know we'll get some lost legacy map(s), but this MP needs events to get people to come back! Give me more relic weekends, do community events! Something!
Also, MP needs some more love man. Where's the labs? Maps? Granted, I know we'll get some lost legacy map(s), but this MP needs events to get people to come back! Give me more relic weekends, do community events! Something!
woot! Didn't know that, thanks.
The Artisan
Member
well disregarding voice actors I think it's reasonable to say that the mp population in Uc4 is bigger than in Uc2.
Kiryu in psallstars would be a full fledged character, in Uc4 he would be just a voice and a skin. But yeah it's just wishful thinking on my part anyways. I'm disappointed he didn't make it into Tekken 7, either.
ComputerBlue
Member
If they keep the timed garbage in Arena, headshots only with pistols, collect those fucking golden coin bullshits etc etc. I'll be considering this game dead for good.
We need some new maps as well.
#1 defender
Member
It has been at 40% for months.
Good point. But both PS AS and U4 mp have in common that Sony didn't throw their full weight behind them, which is why we can't have nice things like a Kiryu guest appearance.
Rewrite
Not as deep as he thinks
I've never gotten that message until today. It appeared before the message of the day.
Yeah, I don't see them keeping the time based ranking bullshit at least. What's the point of making a new survival mode if it's gonna be just like the current one?
I just really hope they make it all about surviving waves of enemies and no tedious and boring objectives. Sadly they mentioned something about objectives in the leaked description of the mode, but I hope they at least limit the objectives and modifiers a lot if so.
#1 defender
Member
Odd. They increased the bonus in March, it's in the patch notes:
https://www.unchartedthegame.com/wiki/patch-1-21-064
The Artisan
Member
yeah I guess it makes sense that Sony didn't throw full weight at the Uc4 mp because the player base really is pretty low. these are completely different games though and if we manage to get a sequel then they should try harder in getting more 3rd party characters including Kiryu.
Stallion Dan
Member
It's pretty low because it didn't get much support. It launched missing a huge amount of content its predecessor launched with, still doesn't match it even with what they added and uses a shitty f2p style system for unlocks.
The Artisan
Member
for sure. Uc3 had way more packed into its mp; it included splitscreen, had a survival and co-op mode. Uc4 has only one of the three. Such a damn shame because this could've been playstation's halo 5.
Negotiator
Member
No new maps at all.
Rewrite
Not as deep as he thinks
She's had a ponytail if you wear the headphones gear!
I was rocking the headphones for a minute, but I can't have that neon green clashing with my fits.
#1 defender
Member
The black coach headset also works.
I think people are speculating this based on the road map, but I seriously doubt (and hope) it is not.
ComputerBlue
Member
Unless LL brings in a large amount of new players, or manages to bring old players back and keeps them around, then I don't see there being any more updates, maybe one more map before the holidays but the fact that we didn't get a single new map with the new game is pretty telling.
Rewrite
Not as deep as he thinks
In the stream, they mentioned it being the last one. But who knows!
Negotiator
Member
Currently ND has no MP map designer. They're looking to hire someone.
At the very least they could add some block mesh maps... then again, maybe it's not that simple because of sidecocks.
Do you think they just decided on a whim to not include that stuff? Like, they were in a meeting and were "Ya know, fuck those Stallion and Artisan guys"?
Or maybe the player data showed those were the least played modes?
Rewrite
Not as deep as he thinks
You're giving them too much credit.
This MP is bare bones, period. This data nonsense is dumb, because even after their 'peak' the other modes were populated and you could find a match. It's only years after they were released where you have trouble finding games on certain modes that are not TDM. Even now, you can still find matches of TDM quickly in UC2 and UC3.
Take Plunder. It worked and played well in the past two games, yet in 4, they completely ruined it for no reason whosoever. Or why not look at TLOU MP having a solo Playlist and this game lacking one. These uncessary changes and decisions just shows that there was something going on with the MP team for this game.
It plays well, it runs at 60fps, the gun play is amazing, but the game no matter how good these elements are will always lack content. This is what this game is missing still: content.
I am a dedicated player in the Uncharted MP games, where I play them years after everyone else has moved on to other MP titles and for me, it's such a disappointment at how everything was handled for this release. Missing modes, a repetitive experience with survival which was basically time trials (though at least arena will somehow fix this), no labs, no community events, hardly any XP/relic weekends, maps, missing characters from past games... It just makes you think wtf went wrong.
And this past stream... I don't even have words for it.
Negotiator
Member
ND lacks consistency. I don't buy the "lots of people have left" excuse, because this applies to pretty much every company out there. Nintendo, for example, has consistency in their games, no matter how many people have left/joined the company during the past 30 years.
I'll give you one very prominent example which proves ND's lack of consistency/vision: Plunder has been ruined in every single Uncharted game because of killfarming shenanigans. Everyone knows that it's very easy to fix it from the get-go, and yet ND loves procrastinating/ignoring solutions that worked in the previous Uncharted MP iterations.
Please don't tell me that it would cost millions of dollars to re-implement these mechanics (which already exist in the form of C++ code) and that it's Sony's "fault" for not giving them enough funds... we're not talking about mo-cap or anything fancy here.
Cogburn -as a huge Nintendo fan- should take some notes from them. Learn to have consistency and a clear vision if you want to compete with the "big boys", or else you risk getting the tacked-on MP stigma.
I'll give you one very prominent example which proves ND's lack of consistency/vision: Plunder has been ruined in every single Uncharted game because of killfarming shenanigans. Everyone knows that it's very easy to fix it from the get-go, and yet ND loves procrastinating/ignoring solutions that worked in the previous Uncharted MP iterations.
Please don't tell me that it would cost millions of dollars to re-implement these mechanics (which already exist in the form of C++ code) and that it's Sony's "fault" for not giving them enough funds... we're not talking about mo-cap or anything fancy here.
Cogburn -as a huge Nintendo fan- should take some notes from them. Learn to have consistency and a clear vision if you want to compete with the "big boys", or else you risk getting the tacked-on MP stigma.
ronaldthump
Member
A question about survival mode - I haven't touched UC4 in ages and TLL has survival mode in it - its not an online MP mode? I coudn't tell. To me, its funny that its a wholely seperate mode in the game outside of MP.
Negotiator
Member
I tried to change my daily challenge and I lost 100 relics because the server didn't respond... anyone else?
It's both solo (with an annoying NPC) and online MP enabled. Solo doesn't require PS+.
Strangelove77
Member
I wonder if they're going to change Chloe's model to the one from The Lost Legacy.
Finally caught up on the news regarding Survival Arena...
wow so underwhelming.
And modifiers suck.
On the stream it was shown as a new skin.
wow so underwhelming.
And modifiers suck.
On the stream it was shown as a new skin.
Yes