Let's not have this discussion again, it's beyond obnoxious.
You know what he meant, that's enough.
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Uncharted 4 Gameplay Demo [Up: Sony - Was running at 30 fps]
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You know what he meant, that's enough.
Tomb Raider last gen looks just as good as any of the Uncharted games and had bigger, more open environments. Tomb Raider remaster does not touch UC4 though.
I was not super impressed watching the stream yesterday - a bit disappointed in fact - but the Gamersyde video is a revelation. Way too much got lost in the stream's quality.
I'm still not sure at all that it's quite the same renderer that the E3 teaser went through, but it's very pretty. The image quality holds up remarkably given how much dense/small detail is present in the vegetation. There's aliasing in spots but by any rights there should be a lot more given how much small detail is there.
I think the water could be improved in spots though, where it's cascading over rocks etc. Otherwise I'm very glad I downloaded the gamersyde version.
I'm still not sure at all that it's quite the same renderer that the E3 teaser went through, but it's very pretty. The image quality holds up remarkably given how much dense/small detail is present in the vegetation. There's aliasing in spots but by any rights there should be a lot more given how much small detail is there.
I think the water could be improved in spots though, where it's cascading over rocks etc. Otherwise I'm very glad I downloaded the gamersyde version.
Yaphett Kotto
Member
lol if you think Uncharted 4 is gonna be 60fps. Right now it definitely is not
We don't even have confirmation, though. They were saying how they wanted to stick with 60fps after TLOU PS4 because they were able to hit their goal. If they are still going with 60fps, and the demo is running at 30fps, they probably haven't gotten to stabilizing the game at 60fps.
It would be weird for them to backtrack on those statements after the talks they had with media about the team's discussion about 60fps.
NickatNite
Member
Any videos of the crowds reaction during the stage demo?
Yes i know, but his statement is wrong.
nelsonroyale
Member
I don't agree...Uncharted was just a higher quality experience. Explorable areas were larger in TR, though not particularly large, but rendered environments in Uncharted are just as big, with lots of clutter. Art + tech + set pieces, I think Uncharted 3 looks a decent bit better than TR. I felt TR felt a little cheaper by comparison.
Best looking console game I've ever seen. Not only that, but there are true evolutions to the gameplay that make it look just as next-gen as the visuals:
Open-ended level design as well as encounter design
shooting looks so perfect
climbing has evolved in a realistic way (grappling, climbing pick, etc
melee system looks excellent
stealth elements in the long grass
Day fucking -1235321424.
Open-ended level design as well as encounter design
shooting looks so perfect
climbing has evolved in a realistic way (grappling, climbing pick, etc
melee system looks excellent
stealth elements in the long grass
Day fucking -1235321424.
And I think yours is wrong, live and let live.
The Order has tight small environments so they can up the detail. In regards to game play I prefer UC4 by a mile. With the hardware and money being spent a lot of the big franchises will look great. Game play will be more important than it was the last two generations because art talent all over the industry is at a similar level.
Glorious unparalleled IQ. Yumm.
A like how he is shadowed here. Multiple ambient light sources.
WhiskerFrisker
Member
Don't forget the attention to small details. This game is going to be great.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Lord I just can't stop watching the demo in its full entirety.
The gameplay just looks sublime. I said this earlier but the transitions between melee and gunplay and the context sensitive animations that are happening - the soldier grasping desperately for a outcropping as he slides down the sand. The guy trying to spin in the air to grab the ledge as Drake pushes him off its just unreal and so far above what everyone else is doing.
The best thing about Uncharted's gameplay is the ability they give you to think on the fly and approach encounters in a myriad of ways. With what I am seeing here it looks like they are firing on all cylinders perfectly and like I said are so ahead of everyone else in the industry.
Yup completely agree.
The gameplay just looks sublime. I said this earlier but the transitions between melee and gunplay and the context sensitive animations that are happening - the soldier grasping desperately for a outcropping as he slides down the sand. The guy trying to spin in the air to grab the ledge as Drake pushes him off its just unreal and so far above what everyone else is doing.
The best thing about Uncharted's gameplay is the ability they give you to think on the fly and approach encounters in a myriad of ways. With what I am seeing here it looks like they are firing on all cylinders perfectly and like I said are so ahead of everyone else in the industry.
Yup completely agree.
yeah they can say what they like, but so far AAA games this gen which have hit 60fps can be counted on less than one full hand, including devs which made it their goal but missed it anyway.
Right now it's 30fps, and any other pie-in-the-sky promises are just that.
A like how he is shadowed here. Multiple ambient light sources.
heh i just noticed his hand pulls up a bunch of pebbles as he grasps and they stay on the rock
Represent.
Represent(ative) of bad opinions
Nah,
ND games were always the most consistent graphically stunning games. I mean, GOW3 looked next gen in some parts, and fucking terrible in others. Uncharted 2, Uncharted 3 and TLOU were stunning throughout.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
yeah they can say what they like, but so far AAA games this gen which have hit 60fps can be counted on less than one full hand, including devs which made it their goal but missed it anyway.
Right now it's 30fps, and any other pie-in-the-sky promises are just that.
I'm assuming Nintendo AAA games aren't part of this gen
they are basically the whole hand, but yes I'm discussing PS4 and XBO titles in this evaluation
it's easy to see where Nintendo takes a cut to get their games running at 60fps, but for a game to look as good as this technically and be 60fps on PS4? Yeaaah... we'll see is all I can say >
yeah they can say what they like, but so far AAA games this gen which have hit 60fps can be counted on less than one full hand, including devs which made it their goal but missed it anyway.
Right now it's 30fps, and any other pie-in-the-sky promises are just that.
Please name these only 5 or less 60fps games on current gen.
And that's allowing you to ignore all Nintendo games.
Exactly
Drakes Bro looks absolutely realistic with all the showings of age and other natural things.
She looks like a doll - Unrealistic.
People shouldn't get forget this Alpha
This is Naughty Dog - Uncharted 3 looked a lot different/worse than the final product too.
Uncharted 4 will be the most beautiful game of all time the moment it gets released.
We will probably have the same cycle as last Gen where only Naughty Dog can raise the graphicsbar with each new game.
And people really should learn the difference between in-Engine(E3) and ingame and especially if its an alpha build.
Btw - For a Pre-Alpha build this game ran a lot more fluid than most Ubisoft Games
Goddamn this made me laugh. I bet Uncharted 4 won't even have PCSS or HBAO.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
yeah they can say what they like, but so far AAA games this gen which have hit 60fps can be counted on less than one full hand, including devs which made it their goal but missed it anyway.
Right now it's 30fps, and any other pie-in-the-sky promises are just that.
I agree. The one good thing about them aiming for 60fps is it seems a locked 30 is very likely. Even the demo runs surprisingly good for a game so far out right now.
XxRampage07xX
Member
It seems like Drake is now older and weaker. I mean, the way he struggles to climb up :\
A like how he is shadowed here. Multiple ambient light sources.
Like a real person...?
nelsonroyale
Member
So? Visuals are the total package...There are games already released on PC which have HBAO which don't hold a candle to this...
PCSS doesn't seem to make that much of a difference in Unity.
Dictator93
Member
Every gme needs particle shadows of course.
Now all they need are particles casting shadows like Bf4 and all is good.
The graphics style reminds me of a water colour painting or something, i'm not super keen on it, especially when compared to those Uncharted 3 screens i posted on the other page.
EDIT. I'm not saying Uncharted 3 looks better because it doesn't, it just seems to be a new art style.
EDIT. I'm not saying Uncharted 3 looks better because it doesn't, it just seems to be a new art style.
Agreed. Screw all the other posters in the this who want to spend 50+ pages not shutting the fuck up about how the visuals compare to the E3 teaser when it really has no significance on how much better the gameplay is compared to most TPS's on the market including UC2 and UC3.
SDCowboy
Member
You mean he's climbing like a real person?
keltickennedy
Member
Yep, that generic jungle definitely doesn't compare to that Victorian themed corridor and kitchen.....you gotta be kidding me. lol.
Betta Lines
Member
Ah yes, when I think 'beauty', I think PCSS and HBAO.
I mean we're going to get into the game here of determining what should count or not, but my bar here is games which mostly run 60fps. Most of these games still have significant drops at times.
Battlefield 4 is 60fps during the campaign (40-60 during multiplayer), and Battlefield: Hardline is also said to be 60fps @ 1080p.
Forza 5 is 60fps, as is Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes. Plants vs Zombies: Garden Warfare is 60fps. Pro Evolution Soccer is as well.
Wolfenstein: The New Order is 60fps, 1760x1080 resolution.
A like how he is shadowed here. Multiple ambient light sources.
Looks like they're using a more advanced form of the ambient character shadows they developed for The Last of Us, which was already a great looking effect.
XxRampage07xX
Member
Yup. The game is more realistic now and I very much like it. But some will say it doesn't look like an Uncharted game anymore :\
JonathanPower
Member
1080p is 1920 x 1080. The Order is 1920 x 800p. There is no upscaling because the game uses black bars.
SDCowboy
Member
0_o ooook....
TheSinkingKnight
Member
Surprised to hear the enemies use the F bomb in here. Guess they're going for that M rating.
keltickennedy
Member
That's what I also liked about Last of Us too. I played mostly stealthy, but when I got spotted and everyone knew I was in the area it turned into this cool thing of chaotic stealth, with taking out an enemy then quickly changing my position and flanking around to get the jump on another enemy. Stun them with a quick brick or bottle throw then charging them with a one hit melee kill then finding another position.
Phat Michael
Banned
As my grandma used to say "if it doesn't have HBAO, it isn't a real game"
Yaphett Kotto
Member
yeah they can say what they like, but so far AAA games this gen which have hit 60fps can be counted on less than one full hand, including devs which made it their goal but missed it anyway.
Right now it's 30fps, and any other pie-in-the-sky promises are just that.
Yea, bigger games have been going at a lower framerate, but that doesn't necessarily mean future ones are going to be. Like I said before, we don't even have confirmation. Just some words from ND about going with 1080/60 going forward and this demo running at 30fps a year before this game hits the market.
I don't have any expectations of what this game is going to be, but your statement is too absolute for something we don't know much about. This could just be a stable build for all we know.
...Unless you know something I don't.
They've always portrayed Drake as a more realistic "everyman" type character since the very first game. It's one of the core tenants of the design. This doesn't mean he doesn't do extraordinary, unrealistic things often, but it means he isn't perfect when he does them. This means he doesn't run perfectly, he stumbles every once in awhile, he flinches when getting shot at, etc. This isn't really anything new for the character.
Fillion isn't really fat. He's just got a big build.
LOL. Because the only thing that matters when it comes to beauty is the ambient occlusion technique.
SoraanTribal
Member
I'm curious how Elena plays into this because if they go back to the same thing as in Uncharted 3 where she got pissed he always went off on life-risking adventures and left him again, I'm going to be really annoyed. Uncharted 3 easily could have been the ending of the series with how it played out, so I'm wondering how Elena feels about Nate doing this again.
In the book Nate opens, there's something written that says "Call Elena" too, lol.
In the book Nate opens, there's something written that says "Call Elena" too, lol.
While these things are nice, overall art direction and actual design of assets plays a much larger role in visuals. Design and execution, something ND are masters of, are key.
Well, at the moment I'm getting a vibe that Drake himself doesn't even want an adventure. I'm guessing that we will see Drake in his regular retired lifestyle for a bit and something terrible will happen.