I'm not really sure of that. I don't know if it's because of the TV on which I have the Wii or the wiimote itself, but when I ran the manual lag test from the 240p test suite, I had about 20ms of input lag on average (two frames). I didn't bother to test with the other, lag-free guaranteed TV or with a GC controller, but I was slightly upset at this result.
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I'm not really sure of that. I don't know if it's because of the TV on which I have the Wii or the wiimote itself, but when I ran the manual lag test from the 240p test suite, I had about 20ms of input lag on average (two frames). I didn't bother to test with the other, lag-free guaranteed TV or with a GC controller, but I was slightly upset at this result.
Friend of Sonic
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It didn't say much aside from "Buy that thing that holds shoes but put controllers in it, like this one!" and then provided a dead link to Target.com
Figured you guys would appreciate this. If you are ever in need of cheap video switches, ebay is the place to go. Got this 8X4 Matrix switch for $.99 with $7 shipping. When you think of how much these things cost when new, its crazy how little they go for now. My plan is once I get everything in to use it for my composite only systems so I can swap between my PVM and my flatscreen when I want to.
IrishNinja
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wish I had one period
do you, though? based on every female i've known, they seem quite unpleasant
These are composite RCA? Which seller has them for so cheap?
Cause it is stunning to look at. NIce gameroom ornament. Plus, you get a back-up red Mote and Chuck!
I'd be quite happy to just have one.
The Racketboy article was on point.
Some of the oversized controllers won't fit, but that's okay, I have a piece of furniture complimenting my TV stand with one drawer that'll hold them. I need to buy a second one; luckily I have a second door in my game room as well.
How does that stay on the door? Also how wide is it?
I may put one on the inside of a broom closet I converted into a videogame pantry which holds basically my entire collection. But the door is definitely narrower than standard door width.
Edit: Never mind. I just did a search and found out that this is a rather common item, and I basically figured out the answer to all of my questions. (I have very few shoes so this wasn't something I'd seen before).
However, one more question, how visible are those hooks from the other side of the door?
Mine is. He only had a few listed at auction and this one got no bids so I threw one out and got it. In general if you just look for matrix switches you can run across some for cheap.
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Here is a pic. On mobile, so it sucks all around. Hopefully you can figure out scale by using the door frame.
If you're in the US, under 6 bucks at Walmart. I know it seems silly, but I love it lol
theSlacker
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The Racketboy article was on point.
Some of the oversized controllers won't fit, but that's okay, I have a piece of furniture complimenting my TV stand with one drawer that'll hold them. I need to buy a second one; luckily I have a second door in my game room as well.
Only use I've seen out of one of those was math in high school. Teacher stored the TI calculators in one and kept them numbered.
Here is a pic. On mobile, so it sucks all around. Hopefully you can figure out scale by using the door frame.
If you're in the US, under 6 bucks at Walmart. I know it seems silly, but I love it lol
Thanks for sharing.
sixteen-bit
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is there a scart rgb version?
Friend of Sonic
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Wow, I had a teacher who did the same thing.
I was looking on ebay, if you were willing to convert every scart out to seperate bnc connectors, there is a switch that takes seperate rgb inputs.
Heres one for example, not a good price obviously but does take RGB inputs.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hi-End-Hi-D...312?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d196cfed0
sixteen-bit
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That is steep. Thanks for the link but I'll stick to my bandridge.
7DollarHagane
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My current dilemma with my setup is that I get audio from multiple sources but only one component input on the trinitron.
I need audio to go to the component (DVD) input from both the Sega Genesis front headset adapter ( i have the right cable) and also from the Scart audio breakout adapter that will pull audio from the NES and SNES which use the same multi out.
What's the best way to accomplish this? Do they make some kind of RCA splitter that will let me basically hook two sources into one jack, for each stereo channel?
The component in is in the back and it's a pain in the ass not to mention extra wear and tear on the jacks in back to unplug and replug every time i switch systems.
I need audio to go to the component (DVD) input from both the Sega Genesis front headset adapter ( i have the right cable) and also from the Scart audio breakout adapter that will pull audio from the NES and SNES which use the same multi out.
What's the best way to accomplish this? Do they make some kind of RCA splitter that will let me basically hook two sources into one jack, for each stereo channel?
The component in is in the back and it's a pain in the ass not to mention extra wear and tear on the jacks in back to unplug and replug every time i switch systems.
Just found this one too. Much better price but again might be a bit of an investment to get the Scart inputs back to those BNC connectors.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/AMX-Autopat...671?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35dbace08f
cantona222
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This thread is a great informative reference. Thank you all.
It's easily become one of my favorite threads. Prior to this and the retro gaming threads I barely posted on here, but this thread now has me buying PVM's and getting into RGB gaming. Quite an expensive hobby but so worth it.
bodine1231
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What article?
I have a Wii Mini
You can get a Wii on Craigslist for like $30.00
Same here!
sixteen-bit
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My current setup is much better because I only need one SCART RGB to BNC breakout cable. 5 consoles -> Bandridge and use the BNC breakout on the output only.
digita1alchemy
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I have some questions that hopefully someone here can answer. I have a PVM-20M4U and I am getting ready to buy the cables I need to hook my RGB systems up to it: a Genesis 1 and an RGB modded N64.
These are the cables I believe I need:
-http://www.retrogamingcables.com/sony-pvm-scart-converter-bnc.html
-http://www.retrogamingcables.com/sega-mega-drive-1-sega-genesis-1-stereo-rgb-av-scart-cable-tv-lead.html
-http://www.retrogamingcables.com/super-nintendo-ntsc-rgb-av-scart-cable-av-lead-cord-for-sale.html
What's confusing me are the customization options on each cable. For the breakout cable, what's the difference between EuroSCART and JP21? Which do I need? For the system cables, what's the difference between the "composite sync" and "composite video" options? I tried looking into this stuff a little myself but I am still confused.
These are the cables I believe I need:
-http://www.retrogamingcables.com/sony-pvm-scart-converter-bnc.html
-http://www.retrogamingcables.com/sega-mega-drive-1-sega-genesis-1-stereo-rgb-av-scart-cable-tv-lead.html
-http://www.retrogamingcables.com/super-nintendo-ntsc-rgb-av-scart-cable-av-lead-cord-for-sale.html
What's confusing me are the customization options on each cable. For the breakout cable, what's the difference between EuroSCART and JP21? Which do I need? For the system cables, what's the difference between the "composite sync" and "composite video" options? I tried looking into this stuff a little myself but I am still confused.
Easy $3 fix... assuming you mean composite (not component):
http://www.amazon.com/dp/9867299434/?tag=neogaf0e-20
I use these bad boys here: http://m.ebay.com/itm/141394372387?nav=SEARCH
They have worked for years and don't lose picture or audio quality. You can hook up 3 audio sources and make it go into one. You want to keep the stereo image, no need for one per jack.
Here is my audio one. Switches between scart, xbox, and Genesis audio
Don't buy from retrogaming cables, they don't have any shielding in their cables, so lots of interferance in the picture, especially if you have a lot of wires behind your set. Genesis especially needs to be well shielded. I will link what you need from retro console accessories. You don't use JP21, those are only for japanese upscalers people use on here.
Register on thr shmups forum and make a post. Once it's approved you can PM people on there. I will tell you the member who sells great quality breakout cables for only $25.
Hey that's good
That reminds me I need to buy a computer and finally finish that soft15kHz cable I started building years ago. I think it was actually my first attempt at modding / soldering things, and I stopped before doing the scart end, there were damn too many cable to solder to that tiny (lol) connector.
Or I could just dig my old 17" VGA from the cave and enjoy them 640×480 games in all their native, yet fullscreen, glory.
The Mageling
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Okay guys, this could be it. I found a guy that runs a local video production company, he says he has "4 or 5 monitors" and at least two are JVC BM-H1310SU, and there might be a Sony or two in there as well.
How much do you think I could snag these for? I offered him $25 a piece for them, I know that's probably low, but we'll see what he says.
How much do you think I could snag these for? I offered him $25 a piece for them, I know that's probably low, but we'll see what he says.
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Woah, can I get that Sonic background from you?
I'd say if they are 20 inches and Sony, 75 or less would be a grwat price for one. Why would you need 4.
to start catching up to bapho?
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What Gunsmith said. But seriously it's because I know a few friends who might be interested, and the ones they don't want I could pay it forward and sell for cheap locally. I'd want 2 for myself (1 for playing on and the other just in case).
Found it here
: http://joelchan.deviantart.com/art/Sonic3-Hydrocity-zone-172431687It's an awesome background. I'm not too into fan art but this piece was amazing and once I saw it, it became my background and has been like that for about 6 months now.
You want this : http://www.ebay.com/itm/US-seller-S...ideo_Game_Cables_Adapters&hash=item2ed3ead6c1
For N64 I am not sure of, since it is a modded console. I'm guessing it would work with the SNES one?
No matter what though, just get standard SCART cords, don't go for JP21, those are only for japanese upscaler XRGB boxes. Don't get "raw sync" or "Sync stripped" cables, just standard rgb.
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Found it here
It's an awesome background. I'm not too into fan art but this piece was amazing and once I saw it, it became my background and has been like that for about 6 months now.
Thanks!
Schrade
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It just came in today and I have to say, this may be the strangest capture card I've own, I will post impressions later, but it definitely does work, just not in the way I expected at all...
Now you have me intrigued...
Lets just say it was a driver thing, lol.
7DollarHagane
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This actually looks like the right solution.
Has anyone had any experience with Component Switch boxes?
I only use the one input for Genesis/SNES/NES but would like to be able to hook up a PS2 via component as well.
Do they degrade quality? are they generally shitty?
Do you mean component or composite?
As long as a switch box is well made you shouldn't have issues. Just avoid cheap 2 dollar switches on Amazon or Monoprice.
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