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Utah judge calls rapist an "extraordinarily good man" at rape sentencing hearing
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CommandThrower
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Judge is probably a Mormon, and is sympathetic to his fellow Mormon who has a wife and a shitload of kids--like a lot of Mormon families in Utah...minus the rapist part, of course.
That's the only reason I can think of. Otherwise, that's super gross and shameful.
That's the only reason I can think of. Otherwise, that's super gross and shameful.
StormBrute
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There was a FBI agent who spoke to my class once and told us that Utah has some of the worst convictions in the country because it's all a "Good ol' Boy club." Mostly everyone's a part of the church, mostly everyone's white, so it's like a giant clique with judges always looking out for terrible people like this.
She said she hates it because years of investigate work can all be worthless because the judge just doesn't want to be "harsh" on the guy.
Another great thing about my state having no separation of church and state!
She said she hates it because years of investigate work can all be worthless because the judge just doesn't want to be "harsh" on the guy.
Another great thing about my state having no separation of church and state!
radios shipping overview
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Lots of the humans there are lovely. They're just stuck in a cult-y culture. It's a beautiful, laid back place to live with a lot of patriarchal/racist bullshit to deal with.
I don't know why the different articles quote it differently, but I believe the TV news report and audio also has it as "extraordinarily"
But seriously? That's the bone your gonna pick, the specific degree of high praise the judge gives the rapist??
Like "calm down fellas he only said he was an extraordinary good man". The fuck...
It's not as if this is Utah's only rape scandal... Brigham Young Students Claim University Punished Rape Victims For Reporting
Jay Shadow
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Karl Malone once knocked up a 13 year old. I'm sure if charges had ever been pressed the Judge would also have said "he can ball" at the time of sentencing.
Give me a state, i'll give you a rape scandal.
(BYU now gives immunity for rape reports btw)
And all of them states with a high population of one religion with enormous control and power connected to said rape scandals?
BYU now gives immunity.NOW gives immunity. After it was a fucking scandal they had to decide to not punish rape victims under the honor code.
The fact that they had to be coerced to protect rather than punish rape victims. Says it all.
Two posts above yours explains that these are systemic issues.
blackdevil
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They wouldn't nuke Utah though.
Master Thespian
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EternalDarko
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Sounds to me like this judge relates too much with the rapist... Maybe he had similar tendencies
ForsakenLotus
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Good men can make mistakes, but there is no such thing as a good man that has raped or sexually assaulted multiple woman. That's like, a defining characteristic that makes you a bad man.
Honestly, hearing that makes me feel this judge's, well, judgement is highly questionable at best.
Honestly, hearing that makes me feel this judge's, well, judgement is highly questionable at best.
SuperBowser
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Extraordinarily good man that raped multiple women.
Ok.
Ok.
EdibleKnife
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That's all that I can think of with these judges that are overtly sympathetic to rapists.
You're getting it backwards, him being a good man doesn't excuse his rape, the jury are wrong, he can't be a real rapist because he's a good man. They got 50 character witnesses to declare he's a good man, and obviously someone that well liked is never capable of raping anyone. I mean, it's not like someone who is that well regarded in a community that excuses the crimes of the well regarded would ever use that fact as a cover for crimes... right?
Miles Quaritch
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Yeah,a guy who commits ten acts of rape along with one rape with an object is a good guy.
What the fuck, get this cunt off the bench and look into his past. No way someone can sympathise with a serial rapist and not have some fucked up shit in their past. No fucking way.
What the fuck, get this cunt off the bench and look into his past. No way someone can sympathise with a serial rapist and not have some fucked up shit in their past. No fucking way.
ClosingADoor
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Please remove this judge. I can't imagine being the victim in such a case and have a judge say something like that. What a scumbag.
Miles Quaritch
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I always found it weird that people call out child marriages in Middle Eastern/South East Asian communities (rightly so), but child marriages that go on in the Mormon community are seemingly brushed under the carpet.
This is shit that's happening in the US' backyard, it's not happening in some dirt poor village where girls are forced into marriage because their parents can't afford to feed them/need the dowry from the marriage.
JasonUresti
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Mormons have the complexion to make the connection.
Weirdly soft treatment and "won't anyone think of the rapist" attitudes are unfortunately common in.. well, pretty much the whole world, not just in the US.
Cymbal Head
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I wish I could say smdh Utah, but shit like this is endemic Nationwide.
guybrushfreeman
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Horrifying. How could a judge have such little respect for the victims of the case? What a way to deny the victims justice at the last moment
Tertullian
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Ten counts of sexual assault!? Definitely a good dude at heart who made a bad decision once.
Baron von Loathsome
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I take it there's no way to overturn this sentence?
Don't think he's sentenced yet, just free to do as he pleases until sentencing occurs.
Happening? It's been like this.
supermarioworldE
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Sick fuck would probably say the same thing if someone dear to him was the victim.
Probably community service or whatever the judge can get away with.
Hickbilly Deluxe
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I'm going to guess zero, but then again I'm an adult.
EdibleKnife
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America is a weird qualifier too. Toxic masculine ideals like forgiving or even praising other men for acts of barbarism and cruelty is a world wide plague and has fallout for women on every corner of it
You feel good letting everyone know this instead of worrying about how fucked the story is?
"I don't think it's wrong to acknowledge the good things that someone has done in their lives," the prosecutor said. "But I think whenever you do that in a case like this, you've also got to say, 'But it doesn't excuse what you've done.' "
Gross. OFC it doesn't. I feel like judges get too caught up in what the perceive to the the person's past or future when they make decisions. Don't they have a responsibility to be objective, or is that just my imagination.
Gross. OFC it doesn't. I feel like judges get too caught up in what the perceive to the the person's past or future when they make decisions. Don't they have a responsibility to be objective, or is that just my imagination.
Netherscourge
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That judge sounds like a real piece of garbage.
He should be in jail himself. He's just as dangerous IMO.
He should be in jail himself. He's just as dangerous IMO.
I don't known what alt facts you are working off of, but child marriages are not a thing in Mormon culture.
However garbage like this judge defending a serial rapist just because he held a high position in the church definitely is a thing and its disgusting.
Judge would call it a good rape.
This judge, the rapist, all goddamn trash. They need to review all of this motherfuckers previous cases.
RPGCrazied
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I don't understand time and time again we have judges defending the rapist. Its pretty disgusting. It makes me wonder how he even got the job to begin with. Must be a Republican.
Miles Quaritch
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Alt facts huh?
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/02/09/sheriff-covered-up-mormon-child-marriage.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/14/opinion/americas-child-marriage-problem.html
It's not just limited to Mormons in the US, my issue is that's the one that's rarely talked about. The stories of abuse you hear about in that community from people who escaped its clutches also just tend to be swept away without much thought.
Alt facts though huh. It's okay if you're a Mormon, I'm not attacking your personally, just what the religion you choose to follow allows to be done in its name.
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