illustri0us
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But with a Windows OS, you can still play all those Windows games that aren't on Steam. Not so on Steam OS.
steam need origin to jump in, the os wont be huge without them
But with a Windows OS, you can still play all those Windows games that aren't on Steam. Not so on Steam OS.
steam need origin to jump in, the os wont be huge without them
Of course you can, but the whole point of Steam OS is to be a streamlined, easy experience. Using WINE for it is a hassle that the target audience won't bother with.Yeah... So? You can also already use W.I.N.E. for a lot of games not natively on Linux/Steam, if you put it like that.
And those are eventually going to become fewer and fewer over time, which is the main point we should argue about.
This opens a new market for revenue for other PC manufactures to get into the console market with no cost for the OS to make a console-like PC. It can be disruptive to the console market like Anroid was to the cell phone. It is all actually genius really on Gabe's part. I imagine if a company like Alienware makes x51s with Steam available it could become pretty popular to people who are not into Steam yet. Sure they cost more than a Xbox One and PS4, but you would be paying for a premium experience. It will be interesting to see if people will pay for that.Maybe I'm missing the point because I have a severe headache but how is Steam OS supposed to broaden the reach of Steam?
The way I see it Steam OS is targeted at people who already own a Steam capable machine but want to run a more optimized system.
I don't see Steam OS taking off in any way for a yet untapped potential target audience. If someone does not own a gaming PC then Steam OS is not going to sway those people into buying one and existing gaming PC owners surely already have Steam installed on their Windows PC and might not want to sacrifice the ability to install any software supported by Windows.
I have honestly no idea of what makes you say so.
Same here, that's a completely arbitrary assumption.
If anything, new customers are the ones who have the less to lose from the initial supposedly "problematic" backward compatibility.
This opens a new market for revenue for other PC manufactures to get into the console market with no cost for the OS to make a console-like PC. It can be disruptive to the console market like Anroid was to the cell phone. It is all actually genius really on Gabe's part. I imagine if a company like Alienware makes x51s with Steam available it could become pretty popular to people who are not into Steam yet. Sure they cost more than a Xbox One and PS4, but you would be paying for a premium experience. It will be interesting to see if people will pay for that.
I see Valve doing this not for the intention of broadening the reach of Steam, but to prepare PC Gaming for life after Windows. They and many others have more or less given up on Microsoft at this point after their intentions of turning into the new Apple is clear and they need to prepare an OS platform that'll maintain the open nature that Windows had.
You've got to be kidding us right?
Well, not necessarily with Origin, but EA jumping on Linux as well would surely help this cause.
You've got to be kidding us right?
It won't. SteamOS and the SteamBox are products that connect with the platform (Steam itself), not platforms in and of themselves.
Well, not necessarily with Origin, but EA jumping on Linux as well would surely help this cause.
Right now we have Epic, Crytek and blizzard who hinted plans of future Linux support, even if they were never particularly clear about to what extent.
EA joining their ranks would make the transition a lot smoother.
Never underestimate the power of money. Steam selling games for Mac OS X and Linux has created new revenue streams for Valve. At this point it would be silly for EA not to start selling games on those OSes. If they let Valve capture those markets no matter how small they are now, EA may never be able to penetrate those markets in the future. It is almost like MS trying to get into the tablet market that was dominated by iOS and Android early on.You think they don't?, people can hate EA/Oriign as much as they like, but they'd be a fool to not see how popular EA games are and that having them aboard the SteamOS train would be a major help.
The person is right, they need Origin (well EA really) to jump aboard as well as the rest of the big publishers.
You think they don't?, people can hate EA/Oriign as much as they like, but they'd be a fool to not see how popular EA games are and that having them aboard the SteamOS train would be a major help.
The person is right, they need Origin (well EA really) to jump aboard as well as the rest of the big publishers.
Why would someone buy a gaming PC and remove all the possibilities Windows offers for non gaming purposes and only use the gaming aspect of things? It makes the price of admission to PC gaming a lot harder to swallow in my opinion.
You've got to be kidding us right?
True they need more major publishers jumping in on SteamOS.
But I don't think allowing Origin on there would be such a good idea.
I can see Epic and Crytek joining in at a later point. I'm skeptical that Blizzard can get over themselves to even consider it tbh.
Let's wait and see what the 2 other announcements will be.
origin
uplay
im sure activision will follow suit soon too... cod is too big for them to not
all steam os will have is half life 3... and lets be honest, its not gonna move systems
steam need to partner up asap
If Valve can make SteamOS and Linux gaming big in its own right, those publishers are free to release clients that are SteamOS compatible. They don't have to release games via Steam retail.
Sorry but from what we have heard this isn't true. If this was the case, as it already is with the Shield then why is Gabe pushing Linux. You don't need Linux to stream to, Android, iOS, Windows, a dongle etc will do the job perfectly well. He specifically said "Linux in the living room".
From the first announcement where he says Mac and PC games can be streamed implies that Linux games won't have to be because they will be native to the Steambox.
From the announcement "In SteamOS, we have achieved significant performance increases in graphics processing" Not streaming, processing. Steambox will be a standalone machine with a Linux based OS. Whether it's actually made by Valve or is just a template for others to follow I don't know.
It just hit me. What implications will it have on the next generation of consoles if Valve introduces the steambox in a sense another next gen console. A "console" that one day one would introduce a new audience to a gargantuan library of games, on day 1 have far more games than its competitors and at the same time could be potentially far more powerful.
Anyone else get the feeling that the steambox could shake up what we think of as console generations.
Sorry, but... What the hell are you talking about?Valve's biggest issue with SteamOS is going to be to get the end-users to drop the misconceptions that they seem to hold so dear. In the other thread about GabeN some of these are actually believed here on the gaf.
Sorry, but... What the hell are you talking about?
Because you are talking almost as if what you are hinting to should be obvious, but it really isn't.
Just to clear up some confusion. When i say timed exclusive, im talking weeks. Not month or even years.
Lets say HL3 is real. And SteamOS version launches 1,5 - 2 weeks prior to Windows version. I think some people would try SteamOS in that case. Especially since SteamOS is free.
origin have their own achievements etc
it will get messy
So Steam OS is for comfy couch PC gamers yeah?
What's the big deal that i'm missing here? Why has this garnered so much interest so quickly?
EDIT, wrong of me.
Windows generally gets in the way on my gaming PC, dialogues popping up requiring keyboard and mouse input, I'd love to get rid of it.
I agree, it won't be an elegant solution. But it is EA's choice at this point. Valve are not going to moneyhat them to start supporting the Steam platform. Perhaps with a new CEO incoming they might shift track and drop Origin as in terms of features, vision and consumer support the gap between Origin and Steam continues to widen.
Though I suspect EA feel the same way about Valve as Valve do with MS. They don't want to be beholden to any distribution monopoly.
Well, if they wanted to make exclusives, and I'm not saying that they are, they could put in artificial roadblocks into the software to prevent it from running under other distributions.? How ?
This is a Linux distribution using established technology along with Valve software and design choices. Whatever works here, works in other distributions.
And most importantly, as far as Valve is concerned Steam is one platform running atop multiple different environments. If anything, SteamOS is their way of further establishing that Steam is OS-agnostic. I imagine that ideally they'd want all games to be available anywhere Steam is available.
In SteamOS, can you only play Windows versions of Steam games if you stream them to the SteamOS machine... from a separate machine? Or is it all-in-one? Confused.
Just to clear up some confusion. When i say timed exclusive, im talking weeks. Not month or even years.
Lets say HL3 is real. And SteamOS version launches 1,5 - 2 weeks prior to Windows version. I think some people would try SteamOS in that case. Especially since SteamOS is free.
The former, at least for now.
In SteamOS, can you only play Windows versions of Steam games if you stream them to the SteamOS machine... from a separate machine? Or is it all-in-one? Confused.
Why would someone buy a gaming PC and remove all the possibilities Windows offers for non gaming purposes and only use the gaming aspect of things?
That sucks. No real interest in it at the moment then.
That doesn't even make sense. SteamOS is free, and you can have both Windows and SteamOS on the same machine. Why would you refuse an extra free option that would run some games better? There's literally no down side...
What the point if 360 pad won't work.
What the point if 360 pad won't work.
What the point if 360 pad won't work.
It has more to do with the fact that my SSD is small and I don't have the money to spare for a bigger one. Totally cosmetic.
That doesn't even make sense. SteamOS is free, and you can have both Windows and SteamOS on the same machine. Why would you refuse an extra free option that would run some games better? There's literally no down side...
Because it isn't Linux. We are talking about SteamOS. They (hacker) need updated for this OS.360 pads don't work on linux? News to me. https://www.google.com/search?btnG=1&pws=0&q=360+gamepad+linux
100%, and official button logo likely too, they need somehow make some money.Valve has their own controller they're going to push, probably.