ashecitism
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It was from a leaked presentation. L4D2 Source 2 only exists internally.
They are doing one exciting thing, VR, but as far as their gaming output goes (which is the most relevant to the average gamer) they're very much stagnant.
I think at this point Valve is like the perfect example of how to much creative freedom is death to productivity. They can do everything, they can do it in ways no one else is ever going to think of. But because there is absolutely no pressure, or any sort of restrictions of time and money, they fall into creative death lock: Always improving because nothing is ever good enough. Then once it stops being interesting, since every interesting idea has been explored (though never fully realized), it's simply left forgotten for the next interesting tidbit.
Valve is the corporate equivalent of a cat that is chasing a laser pointer. They just happened to be lucky (or unfortunate) enough to find the infinite money well (Steam), just before their creative Alzheimer fully hit them.
The introduction of paid mods only, the community will vote on skins to the be licensed, and every three hours you'll be given a "dead crate" to unlock with a crowbar you pay 2$ for. The skins will be randomized.How are they going to incorporate gambling into Left 4 Dead?
How are they going to incorporate gambling into Left 4 Dead?
I know Portal 2 didnt have crates but it was spectacular to see them shoehorn a shop into that game and see it fail to the point where they never touched it ever again.
I hate to admit that I own both on Steam and never finished either. I'm guessing I should really look into that. They're installing now. I forget, can you go through it completely solo or is it really necessary to group up with randoms?
You can play it solo.I hate to admit that I own both on Steam and never finished either. I'm guessing I should really look into that. They're installing now. I forget, can you go through it completely solo or is it really necessary to group up with randoms?
I hate to admit that I own both on Steam and never finished either. I'm guessing I should really look into that. They're installing now. I forget, can you go through it completely solo or is it really necessary to group up with randoms?
L4D2 has these graphics now?
Serious question.
You can do it solo, bit it's not a good experience that way. Though thinking about the community's rep, grouping up with randoms might not be either. Friends would be the preferred method.
You can play it solo.
Do not play it solo.
It is a multiplayer game that happens to have bots.
Thanks guys. Grouping up is what it'll be then.Some people prefer the first game, but I don't really see a reason to install both, L4D campaigns are included in L4D2.
And 2 has more active players than 1: 15 000 vs 800. You can play solo, but it sucks, it's still fun with random players.
That is exactly what they have been, compared to how many great games they produced, in normal time in the 90ies and early 2000s. Stagnancy doesn't mean that they cannot get anything at all done, but I am saying they should have a lot more output and much more varied output considering how many illuminaries work there. I just don't see how "let's make it online and involve the community" can be so creatively satisfying for so many years, considering how groundbreaking their early stuff has been.Its not like Valve has just been stagnant. They're doing a lot of exciting and interesting things.
I don't think there's much doubt they're actually working on this one.
Whether it will ship this decade, maybe more of a question, but still.
Valve have to be doing something since 2011 that doesn't involve patches..
Dear god NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!
That was 2011Dota
Valve have to be doing something since 2011 that doesn't involve patches..
Other developers do far more than this with greater productivity, I have a feeling Valve's structure is a huge part of their incompetence.Valve does a LOT of shit in a LOT of different areas.
Just because it's not "games" doesn't mean it's not creative.
They're busy as fuck.
Developing VR was not easy. And it's not done.
Making the Steam controller was not easy. And it's not done.
Continuing to update and manage Steam is... well it's not as easy as people think, but it's relatively easy (the managing part, anyway). But it's not done.
Continuing to provide new content for Dota 2, TF2, and CS:GO is not easy. And it's not done.
Making Source 2 was definitely not easy. And it's not done.
Listen I'd love more games from Valve. I wish their priorities were different. But this idea that they don't really accomplish anything meaningful is... wrong.
L4D3 does seem like the most likely game they're actually working on, but it;s the one I least care about
It's actually the folder where HL3 assets have been left for dead.
Other developers do far more than this with greater productivity, I have a feeling Valve's structure is a huge part of their incompetence.
It's actually the folder where HL3 assets have been left for dead.
Other developers do far more than this with greater productivity, I have a feeling Valve's structure is a huge part of their incompetence.
Other developers do far more than this with greater productivity, I have a feeling Valve's structure is a huge part of their incompetence.
Would much more prefer a new IP btw. Has been a while since one of those...
Could be anything, could be nothing considering the game has been supposedly coming soon for years.
Popular theory is them masking it with L4D2, that's why a lot of them have been playing it a lot lately.
I'm still crossing my fingers and toes that Stars of Blood will be reborn as a Source 2 title. An open-world space pirate game with an effectively unlimited budget is just too good a dream to give up on. I mean, such a game would be rather easy to monetise a la Valve's big three, and be begging for additional content, so even from the pessimistic perspective of "Valve just makes games that it can turn into cash cows" it's a sensible pursuit.
I'm still crossing my fingers and toes that Stars of Blood will be reborn as a Source 2 title. An open-world space pirate game with an effectively unlimited budget is just too good a dream to give up on. I mean, such a game would be rather easy to monetise a la Valve's big three, and be begging for additional content, so even from the pessimistic perspective of "Valve just makes games that it can turn into cash cows" it's a sensible pursuit.
Whatever, i don't care anymore.
Valve is dead to me.
It's nothing. It's never anything. You guys keep posting this shit to set yourself up for disappointment when you KNOW it's NOTHING
Deep inside you still care.
Deep inside you still care.