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VOEZ is the first Nintendo Switch game to be portable-mode only
- Thread starter LordKano
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Man, you'd laugh if you knew what I did for a living...
ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
Why will a developer deliberately want to make their game handheld-only, barring any technical reason that we are having here?
Yes please!
Khalifa Jayy
Banned
Same. I thought the point of the Switch was that you could 'switch' from traditional TV gaming to mobile, full-quality gaming, on the fly (and vice versa)? Allowing mobile only games seems like a terrible strategy.
Let's say a AAA game does this? How will they denote this? "Only works in Switch [mobile/portable/tablet] mode" disclosed on the back of the box?
Seems messy.
Interfectum
Member
http://nintendotoday.com/switch-game-case-play-mode/
They already have a section on the back of the box for this.
Khalifa Jayy
Banned
Well, there it is. Good that they prepared for this.
Discokuningas
Member
Is Lady Layton like the previous Layton games? If so it would work with gyro pointer in a tv mode like World of Goo is doing.
Dr. Zoidberg
Member
I don't know. Hopefully it never happens. I can imagine scenarios where a Japanese dev decides it would be easier/cheaper to solely target the handheld mode and not have to worry about 1080p assets/testing for docked mode. Besides, 90% of their Japanese audience plays the system in handheld mode most of the time since Japan is all about the portable play.
Devs can choose to use the handeld clocks for the docked version of the game.
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jts
...hate me...
It's a portable console now, but then again, it always was.
And yeah, Netflix and Youtube will 100% come at some point.
Father_Brain
Banned
I honestly didn't think Nintendo would allow this. Huh. Still, I expect such games to be quite rare.
Lower res assets, less testing, cheaper development all together.
The Horror the horror
Banned
And I love snarky remarks that seek to invalidate real opinions or concerns from "real persons," as if they were drawn up from a computer.
They're still making an HD game. They have no reason to not make it available on the docked mode too.
You're assuming they make just new HD assets. What if they can re-use some old ones?
Inferno313
Banned
Some games are using the Joycons gyro as a sort-of 3D mouse. World of Goo, for example. This wouldn't work for Voez though, as it's a very fast-paced rhythm game that utilizes multi-touch extensively.
'cause they will, in most cases. Switch is an HD console.
jts
...hate me...
Yep, it's exactly the same costs if you don't want to optimise it.
And those devs will experience reduced sales from not being able to play their game on TV.
Not to mention Nintendo will probably not even allow it if it's not a game with mandatory touchscreen use. So it's likely not even a starter.
This seems mostly beneficial to touch-heavy mobile games port. I mean if you want to develop a game from the ground up for Switch, you'd target the default modes.
Unless Nintendo is allowing lower budget games that looks like a hi-res 3DS or a Vita game to be portable only just because it'd look bad on a TV screen. I personally love it if lower budget devs games could come to Switch, but that could send some messy messaging.
Edit: Hey, this means Technika could come to Switch! That's good news.
the dream is dead.
Deft Beck
Member
I hope we get a version of Deemo, or even Lanota!
This.
Your point makes no sense. Nintendo released a 3DS without the 3D. They don't care.
jts
...hate me...
Honestly I was nervous that this wouldn't happen, lol.
It would lock a lot of games out of the Switch.
Very relieved now.
Nintendo wouldn't allow a game that shows nothing at all on the Gamepad.
I found this really good news. This will open to more games with unique gameplay experience without forcing to the developers to implement a gimmick emulation of the touch screen with a (maybe in the future) pointer IR cursor...
Its not the same experience "The World Ends with You" with buttons and touch screen than just buttons imo. So it's good to see that the implementation of both (portable and tv) is not mandatory on Nintendo Switch.
Its not the same experience "The World Ends with You" with buttons and touch screen than just buttons imo. So it's good to see that the implementation of both (portable and tv) is not mandatory on Nintendo Switch.
And they could do all of that and have the games still work in TV mode. I mean, that was known since the Eurogamer leak showed devs could opt for handheld mode clocks even in TV mode.
UnemployedVillain
Member
People on here freak out all the time about the smallest things. It's nothing new. I'm sure aside from straight mobile ports, and those which make heavy use of the touch screen, there won't be too many portable only titles.
Would probably require the game to NEED the higher clocks, and I doubt Nintendo will go for that. It's one thing for a bit of extra functionality for gameplay, it's another for a bit of performance leeway.
I mean, I can't imagine that the TV support is all that intensive to add either. Who on earth wants their game to be portable only and lock themselves out of the main feature of the console if it has the capability to display on a TV?
Well, I hope you are right. We'll see. Nothing can be done about this anyhow now.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
"Game itself isn't threadworthy"
The game got a thread for switch some days ago
The game got a thread for switch some days ago
Interfectum
Member
This doesn't really prove anything. Nintendo Switch has 3 playmodes as denoted on the back of all video game boxes. One of their flagship titles, 1,2 Switch, doesn't support handheld mode.
All this tells us is Nintendo is not forcing devs to account for all three modes.
When I'm watching Netflix on my PS4 I'm not playing so why is it called PLAYStation?!?
UnemployedVillain
Member
How is this a "real person"? Is that poster little Jimmy? Are they the parent who is going to accidentally miss that a game is portable only? Or are they creating a hypothetical situation, they believe will happen, but that we have no idea/indication/previous proof of actually happening? I'm not discrediting it, but these statements are made all the time, and they aren't framed as a possibility, but an absolute certainty
"Paren't aren't going to want to get so and so for their kids", claimed the non-parent.
"Kids are going to get confused by x and y", claimed the grown adult
Yeah exactly. The device does most of the work for you, only requiring devs to really test the limits of improvements they can make and possibly alter the size of UI
I can't see this being anything but good. Even if a third party decides they don't want to deal with handheld mode, that's just fine. Nintendo and the Indie community will give us all the handheld compatible games we need.
I think Call of a Duty, Assassin's Creed and Madden all suck, but I'd rather they make their way to the Switch as docked only games than to forfeit that entire audience because it's too hard or not possible to go portible.
Also, I really want Star Wars Battlefront 2 on my Switch, even if that means I can only play it on the TV.
I think Call of a Duty, Assassin's Creed and Madden all suck, but I'd rather they make their way to the Switch as docked only games than to forfeit that entire audience because it's too hard or not possible to go portible.
Also, I really want Star Wars Battlefront 2 on my Switch, even if that means I can only play it on the TV.
This is surprising. Nintendo have micro-managed the messaging that it is a dual console, I am surprised that they are allowing a portable only game, particularly so early in the lie cycle
But ultimately more games is a good thing, and opens up the possibilities for a huge library of mobile ports. Hopefully all touch based games will come with a pointer TV mode where it is possible to do so (clearly with this game it is not). I wonder how they will handle mario run in this respect.
But ultimately more games is a good thing, and opens up the possibilities for a huge library of mobile ports. Hopefully all touch based games will come with a pointer TV mode where it is possible to do so (clearly with this game it is not). I wonder how they will handle mario run in this respect.
calc84maniac
Member
What if Nintendo releases a handheld-only Switch after the 3DS is phased out?
Interfectum
Member
That will most likely happen. What's the issue?
Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze.
Inferno313
Banned
I think that's very likely.
They can call it a Switch Mini, and build it around the concepts of cloud saves, such that you'd "Switch" from your larger, home Switch to your Switch mini on the way out, if they wanted to preserve the Switching concept.
Or, they could call it something else entirely, and just advertise that it runs on "SwitchOS." Iwata talked about the way that Apple offers different products with different form factors, but rely on a shared OS and software library, as an example of what they'd like to do with the then-NX.
Seems like the ideal situation.