BreezyLimbo
Banned
Hmmm.
I imagine Khorne intercepted the driving force behind Tyranids, as for why?
Maybe Sanguinius is a bloodthirster now a days
Maybe Sanguinius is a bloodthirster now a days
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Hmmm.
AbsolutBro
Member
My guess is 'they were there'. Cares not from where the blood and all that.
Not surprised that's how it went down. Though the mention of
Ka'Banda
(for both 40k and 30k)
That reminds me. I was thinking about this the other day but do you guys think Forge World will make rules for some of the Daemon Primarchs for 30k? I know a few of them ascended to daemon hood during the later part of the Heresy. Like Angron and Magnus.
Greigor The Fellhand
Member
I do love the fact that a successor that was declared excommincae tratious returned home to aid there brothers.
and also messed up, the Baal system got hit just as hard as the fenris system. All our planets besides fenris were destroyed of life or destroyed.
Matt ward is def back writing the lore. =(
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other thing to consider, some deamons and deamon primarchs might assist in destroyed a hive fleet that is about to consume a legion birth world.
Why?
because they want to be the ones to do it. not some nid.
and also messed up, the Baal system got hit just as hard as the fenris system. All our planets besides fenris were destroyed of life or destroyed.
Matt ward is def back writing the lore. =(
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other thing to consider, some deamons and deamon primarchs might assist in destroyed a hive fleet that is about to consume a legion birth world.
Why?
because they want to be the ones to do it. not some nid.
StaffyManasse
Member
Considering leaks about Baal:
I...I just don't know what to think.
I suppose they had to kill off enough oldmarines to make room for the PRIMARIS BLOOD ANGELS...
I...I just don't know what to think.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Sanguinius comes back in demon form, pissed off that most of his geneseed got replaced by guille marines
queue a faction of blood angels breaking, the Sanguine Seraphs, who side with Demon Sanguinius
queue a faction of blood angels breaking, the Sanguine Seraphs, who side with Demon Sanguinius
StaffyManasse
Member
More about Baal and the Horus Heresy book Fear to Tread
it's the same Bloodthirster that almost got Sanquinius back in the Heresy days
It's Reyn Time!
Member
Wasn't it said that Primaris marines are still based on their respective Primarch's gene seed?
it was
What's interesting is that this contradicts a previous fluff piece that says Khorne gets no kicks from tyranid ichor being spilled. Not that it matters that much, the imperial historians who somehow learned that must've been wrong.
Makes sense to retcon that, since Chaos is everywhere now and you need an excuse to have Khorne/Tyranid battles.
Hydrargyrus
Member
So, in theory, Blood Angels' Primaris would still have the blood thirst if they're based in Sanguinius genes, hasn't it?
It's Reyn Time!
Member
Thought so. Incidentally, time to spend some time going through my bits box, digging out wolfy bits which will be usable on the snapfit Primaris minis. I'm hoping the heads can be replaced fairly easily (first thing they'll do when arriving on Fenris? Misplace their helmets), but I want to keep from plastering them in wolfy wolfishness, just a trinket or marking here and there to show they haven't had the time to build up a massive collection of trophies.
Yeah, same for Wolves and the canis helix, they inherited all the various flaws of their chapters is how I think they worded it.
AbsolutBro
Member
Huh, I knew he didn't care about Necrons, didn't realive it also applied to Nids.
Nids being fluffed as the winners was probably the reason there.
Heads and pauldrons are interchangeable according to GW.
It's Reyn Time!
Member
I know they are for the full kits but I imagine the snap-fit ones in the box set are going to need some trimming etc. to get wolfy heads on them.
GarthVaderUK
Banned
Death Guard datasheets:
GarthVaderUK
Banned
A few pics from Warhammer Fest!
Horus Heresy Book Eight: Angelus contains:
Close-up of Mortarion vs. Guilliman:
Primaris Space Marines in different Chapter colours:
Imperial Armour 8th Edition Indexes and Thunderhawk Gunship:
Gabriel Angelos and Amon:
Tau Tigershark AX-1-0:
Sisters of Silence Kharon Pattern Acquisitor and Prosecutor Cadre:
Legio Custodes Orion Gunship and Terminators:
Little bit of Adeptus Titanicus info:
Horus Heresy Book Eight: Angelus contains:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/27/warhammer-fest-live-blog/
GarthVaderUK
Banned
Genestealer Cults in 8th edition:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/27/warhammer-40000-faction-focus-genestealer-cults/Genestealer Cults were largely defined in their play style through their very cool and characterful Cult Ambush special rule. That is still true in the new Warhammer 40,000 as well. Cult Ambush allows you to place Genestealer Cults units into reserves and then enter the game through a variety of means determined by a D6 chart. These range in effect from coming on to a table edge to being able to appear anywhere on the table more than 9 away from any enemy units but being able to move as well, allowing you to get extremely close to enemy units to shoot and then charge them as well. For units like Genestealers or Aberrants armed with power picks and rending claws, this can be punishing!
Speaking of Genestealers, if you thought they were deadly in the Tyranid army, they are even more flexible with Genestealer Cults due to the Cult Ambush rule as stated above. Combined with the Patriarch, they hit just as hard as the Broodlord and Genestealers do with Tyranids, but with Genestealer Cults, the Patriarch also allows nearby units to ignore morale, and he benefits from the Unquestioning Loyalty special rule which all Genestealer Cults Characters posses. This allows them to avoid taking a wound on a 4+ as a minion sacrifices its life and jumps in front of the attack. This makes these Characters extremely durable and even helps them survive things like Sniper fire.
Another nasty trick the Genestealer Cults have is their Mass Hypnosis psychic power, which prevents an enemy unit from firing Overwatch, makes them strike last in combat (even if they charged) AND gives them -1 to hit. Ouch! That leaves an enemy unit in a very compromised position as the minions of the Four-armed Emperor emerge from ambush and then run them through in melee.
One of my favourite aspects of the Genestealer Cults, though, is their ability to form their army using both their own faction, Tyranids and Astra Militarum, too. Huzzah! Due to the way that allies worked in the previous edition, making an army that mixed Genestealer Cult units and Astra Militarum wasnt always straightforward. These are, of course, not real Astra Militarum, but devoted followers of the Cult who have turned from the Emperors light and betrayed their fellow man. The way it works in the new Warhammer 40,000 is really fun. You can take one Astra Militarum Detachment for each Genestealer Cults Detachment in your Battle-forged army. They each need to be entirely comprised of units with their respective keyword, but this allows incredible amounts of diversity in your army that is also quite characterful.
But you wont always need to sneak into the Imperial motor pool to hijack their vehicles; the Genestealer Cults have access to some fantastic mechanised war machines of their own. The Goliath Rockgrinder is one of my favourites.
For armament, I prefer the Clearance Incinerator, as it automatically hits its target D6 times up to 12 out and, of course, you have to take the Cache of Demolition Charges! While you can only fire this weapon if a unit is embarked upon it (as they need to chuck them out!) and it is short ranged at 6, boy does it pack a punch! D6 shots, Strength 8, AP -3 and D3 damage per hit. Thats no joke. If anything survives that, you can ram them with the Drilldozer in melee for a possible 6+D3 Strength 8 attacks with an AP of -2 and D3 damage per hit.
AbsolutBro
Member
Huh, so it seems many armies will have a "lolsniper" unit to protect characters.
Greigor The Fellhand
Member
there is something very wrong with that angelos model. porportions are all over the place
ShadowSwordmaster
Banned
Love me some Custodes.
Greigor The Fellhand
Member
heh just noticed, the custode terminator armor is gravis armor with all the iconography shaved off
BreezyLimbo
Banned
So Tyranids
Pink and black a good color scheme
Or is it a GREAT COLOR?
Pink and black a good color scheme
Or is it a GREAT COLOR?
GarthVaderUK
Banned
Redemptor Dreadnought!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGyR5n_3kIg
Mortarion teaser:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E415aFoSDcY
FAQ forum:
Pics from the Index books:
evanswolves
Member
That Dreadnought is gorgeous!
Looks like the novel "The Devastation of Baal" by Guy Haley is going to cover all of this, which is what i was hoping for when bits started appearing on the facebook groups
Looks like the novel "The Devastation of Baal" by Guy Haley is going to cover all of this, which is what i was hoping for when bits started appearing on the facebook groups
ShadowSwordmaster
Banned
Are some of those chapters in that image new? I'm talking about the ones above.
Cosmic Schwung
Member
It's cool that I could actually imagine that dread moving around unlike the current models but for some reason I don't like it. Could just be the angle though.
That Mortarion pic pretty much all but confirms the WIP pics of the model we saw are legit. Hell of a coincidence if they aren't.
edit: oh there's a video too. Welp, there he is!
That Mortarion pic pretty much all but confirms the WIP pics of the model we saw are legit. Hell of a coincidence if they aren't.
edit: oh there's a video too. Welp, there he is!
AbsolutBro
Member
I rarely use Dreads with my Space Wolves, but my Salamanders I always wanted to run dread heavy. Looks like I found my new excuse!
SillyEskimo
Member
I'm honestly wondering if GW will ever make more baby marines, or if that line is now fading towards legacy status.
StaffyManasse
Member
I'm pretty sure the answer is no. Well, maybe 30k stuff.
I was slightly afraid we were just going to get another Contemptor, I'm glad they just upgraded the boxy dreadnought.
I'm legit happy about everything we've gotten so far.
GarthVaderUK
Banned
With all the different types of Dreadnought out there now, it might be fun to try an all Dreadnought army in 8th...
Must resist, I've got Necrons to build and paint for 8th!
Must resist, I've got Necrons to build and paint for 8th!
Little Old Man
Member
Like I said previously, I believe GW have found the path of least resistance to replacing the SM line with truescale miniatures, from a practical and fluff perspective. They'll just spend the next several years working through it.
ShadowSwordmaster
Banned
Buy all the dreadnougts.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
I hope they have data sheets for proper Chaos Dreadnoughts next edition
Helbrutes suck
Helbrutes suck
GarthVaderUK
Banned
Forge World's home page right now, awesome:
I'm super excited for that Gabriel Angelos model! I've wanted to paint up some Blood Ravens for a while now and this is a great excuse to start!
New dreadnought is awesome. Looks enormous. Now I'm really REALLY regretting buying my start collecting Space Marines box now.
Slightly disappointed by that Mortarion Teaser. I was really hoping for them to show more, but if that art is anything to go by then I'm excited.
I'm definitely getting those Custodes terminators. They are too damn cool.
New dreadnought is awesome. Looks enormous. Now I'm really REALLY regretting buying my start collecting Space Marines box now.
Slightly disappointed by that Mortarion Teaser. I was really hoping for them to show more, but if that art is anything to go by then I'm excited.
I'm definitely getting those Custodes terminators. They are too damn cool.
Hydrargyrus
Member
Forge World's home page right now, awesome:
The proportions seem strange
manfestival
Member
Redemptor Dreadnought!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGyR5n_3kIg
Mortarion teaser:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E415aFoSDcY
FAQ forum:
Pics from the Index books:
yo that redemptor dread looks like its straight out of mech warrior. that is so legit
Forge World's home page right now, awesome:
£20 for a diorama base for Magnus vs Russ as well:
It's Reyn Time!
Member
I had a friendly battle last year using a Stompa, two Deff Dreads, six Killa Kans, a Gorkanaut and a Morkanaut against my opponent's two Imperial Knights, Bjorn the Fellhanded, Murderfang, a Space Wolves Venerable Dreadnought, a Death Company Dreadnought and a few regular dreadnoughts. It was an absolute blast. Regardless of how walkers turn out this edition I'll be adding more to both my main armies for sure.
I'm about two thirds of the way through Fulgrim. All I could think about was how incredible the Horus Heresy saga would be if it were produced by HBO. I bet it would be several times more expensive than Game of Thrones.
I need to see two Primarchs share their moments as brothers and then have to fight each other on the battlefield. Horus vs Sanguinus and Fulgrim vs Ferrus could make me cry.
I need to see two Primarchs share their moments as brothers and then have to fight each other on the battlefield. Horus vs Sanguinus and Fulgrim vs Ferrus could make me cry.
ShadowSwordmaster
Banned
Oh boy. You are in for a treat when you get to the battle.
They can't have sex though, so HBO wouldn't touch it sadly.
Edit: or do primarchs have all their bits, and it's just regular Astarte?