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[Darkmakaimura]

Assasinorum: Kingmaker is a book that is entirely set on a Knight world and covers the politics involved and of course big stompy knights. Absolutely fantastic book that made be buy another knight once I had finished reading it

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Regarding the other 'big issue' of the day on female Custodes: what took them so long? Unlike Space Marines, they have never written themselves into a corner regarding the creation of them, Custodes do not "have to be" men and are created in a very different process. Find it funny when tourists show up from the woodworks getting their knickers in a twist over a girl in golden armour. Actually that's not fair towards tourists, as they are usually there to have fun, while the "anti fsm" Grognards that have latched onto this subject seems to revel in negativity. I don't know how someone can get so angry over the gender of a toy soldier. I welcome our golden girls and started building a Custodes jumping at some male space marine and chopping his silly head off:

Currently looking for a suitable head, luckily there's now a wealth of 3rd party bits available that are Stormcast-scale to consider.

Also, space marines are just one successful experiment by Cawl or Bile away from getting more than 1 gender

I agree that the anti-woke Warhammer fans are overreacting but I'm pretty sure it was mentioned that Custodes were specifically created from the sons of certain nobles.

It just seems kind of weird games works off all of a sudden says they always existed when that's never been implied. But I think it's their way of covering the loophole regarding female Space Marines so they can appease the modern audiences, for lack of a better term.

 

[FunkMiller]

This.


Ever since the whole custodes thing I've seen so many ridiculous takes from people who have clearly never spent a single second paying attention to the 40K universe.

A big giveaway is people conflating custodes with astartes. The Critical fucking Drinker showed his true colours by jumping on the anti woke bandwagon for this... Despite clearly not knowing the difference throughout his entire video.

 

[T8SC]

Although not female Custodes related, I do feel like this video is appropriate here:



People lost their shit over Primaris marines too.

 

[P:axMagellanic]

lol, I love him but the yellow… it’s so hard to paint. I bet I did 7 coats on the parts

Basecoat or zenithal in pink if you want a vibrant, contrasty yellow over black that you don't need to layer like a motherfucker. They're complimentary colours and pink has a warmer tone. Straight yellow next to black can appear greenish.

People really up in arms over the reveal of female Custodes.

Because they know how it's going to end. A fucked, lame, pussy game just like vidya and films are. The typical weak, centrist, egghead types come out of the woodwork as always ready to immediately yield and grab their ankles.

 

[Darkmakaimura]

Because they know how it's going to end. A fucked, lame, pussy game just like vidya and films are. The typical weak, centrist, egghead types come out of the woodwork as always ready to immediately yield and grab their ankles.

I personally don't like the decision Games Workshop made. It's obvious why they did it and of course it's only going to get worse.

That being said, I can't help but feel that the anti-woke is really overreacting. The writing was already on the wall anyways. However, many of those people are really embarrassing themselves and it's practically a victory for people who were calling for female Space Marines. Sorry but the anti woke Warhammer fans look really bad right now to say the least.

 

[FunkMiller]

That being said, I can't help but feel that the anti-woke is really overreacting. The writing was already on the wall anyways. However, many of those people are really embarrassing themselves and it's practically a victory for people who were calling for female Space Marines. Sorry but the anti woke Warhammer fans look really bad right now to say the least.

Most of them aren’t even 40K fans. I know this because they keep screaming about how 40K is being ruined by having female custodes… because they don’t know that the lore has women in positions of power all across the Imperium.

Fact is, 40K has been ‘woke’ for decades, because it’s always mixed men and women in its factions - with the exception of only a few.

 

[Trogdor1123]

Most of them aren’t even 40K fans. I know this because they keep screaming about how 40K is being ruined by having female custodes… because they don’t know that the lore has women in positions of power all across the Imperium.

Fact is, 40K has been ‘woke’ for decades, because it’s always mixed men and women in its factions - with the exception of only a few.

I never saw it as woke myself. I always thought it was more indicative of how the imperium itself sees people, not as individuals but rather as a resource to be consumed and used.

 

[FunkMiller]

I never saw it as woke myself. I always thought it was more indicative of how the imperium itself sees people, not as individuals but rather as a resource to be consumed and used.

No. That's the point. 'Woke' is a fucking stupid term that's bandied around far too much. But many would see 40k as being 'woke' just because it has women in powerful and equal roles to men.

 

[Trogdor1123]

No. That's the point. 'Woke' is a fucking stupid term that's bandied around far too much. But many would see 40k as being 'woke' just because it has women in powerful and equal roles to men.

Ahh I see what you are getting at.

Frankly, I think that 40k handles the placement better than nearly any other franchise. I literally can’t think of a time I questioned a character being in their role.

For example Sindermann and Euphrati. They are a fantastic duo. Probably my favourite pair in the series, besides Ciaphus and … anyone.

 

[Dr. Claus]

No. That's the point. 'Woke' is a fucking stupid term that's bandied around far too much. But many would see 40k as being 'woke' just because it has women in powerful and equal roles to men.

No. A handful of retards does not suddenly change what woke means. Slacktivism is clear and blatant. Having strong female characters does not make it them woke. Aliens is not woke. Nightmare on Elm Street is not woke. Old Trek is not woke.

Being progressive or having progressive themes is not woke.

Lecturing someone with heavy handed tokens is woke. Trying to shoehorn modern day political talking points is woke. Using modern day lingo such as “chuds” and making references to denigrate a political party is woke.

 

[Darkmakaimura]

I think the issue is that the Custodes have always strongly implied to be men, pick from sons of nobles. It is a little suspect that they're all of a sudden introducing women in the Custodes especially since a recent outrage over wanting female Space Marines.

There's also supposedly funding from certain groups or organizations that Games Workshop is getting that I honestly don't know much about other than what I've heard and seen little about.

And then of course some people are also saying it has something to do with the upcoming Amazon show and how they're demanding more diversity in the game but I really don't think it's that.

Like I said, I'm not crazy about the decision either but it's the amount of outrage that's embarrassing. It's how the anti-woke Warhammer fans are calling for boycotts and everything now. Absolutely ridiculous.

 

[Doczu]

I think the issue is that the Custodes have always strongly implied to be men, pick from sons of nobles. It is a little suspect that they're all of a sudden introducing women in the Custodes especially since a recent outrage over wanting female Space Marines.

There's also supposedly funding from certain groups or organizations that Games Workshop is getting that I honestly don't know much about other than what I've heard and seen little about.

And then of course some people are also saying it has something to do with the upcoming Amazon show and how they're demanding more diversity in the game but I really don't think it's that.

Like I said, I'm not crazy about the decision either but it's the amount of outrage that's embarrassing. It's how the anti-woke Warhammer fans are calling for boycotts and everything now. Absolutely ridiculous.

We won't know (probably) what the real decision was for changing the lore to add female Custodes but the outrage right now is IMO a good thing.

People are tired of this shit. And i call it "this shit" because i feel that this is driven by an agenda. We got Gamergate 2.0 going on with "consultancy" companies and developers going over the top with pandering, the media crying racism again. Movies and shows are butchered, they eventually bomb and the blame is shifted on the end user again. WotC dumbed down D&D and went all inclusive with their IP.

Now GW goes in high and mighty KNOWING what a powder keg the community is with the ongoing, never ending FSM discussion and they drop through X that there are female Custodes and ban anyone that opposes the idea.

And i might not be the biggest 40k fan that's in the hobby for years or decades (mini's and tabletop side, i did game since Space Crusade on the Amiga) and i don't know the entire origin of GW and their politics from years back, but after a little studying online i would call them liberal, left leaning but not outright woke. Well untill now, cause the spotlight is on GW right now and they can either man up, double down on femstodes and show some official models, art or whatever they have ready for this revelation or quietly walk back and play dumb like this never happened.

And one would think that they would have ANYTHING to show with this revelation, cause now it looks like they just stirred the pot to create a shit storm and nothing more.

 

[Dr. Claus]

We won't know (probably) what the real decision was for changing the lore to add female Custodes but the outrage right now is IMO a good thing.

People are tired of this shit. And i call it "this shit" because i feel that this is driven by an agenda. We got Gamergate 2.0 going on with "consultancy" companies and developers going over the top with pandering, the media crying racism again. Movies and shows are butchered, they eventually bomb and the blame is shifted on the end user again. WotC dumbed down D&D and went all inclusive with their IP.

Now GW goes in high and mighty KNOWING what a powder keg the community is with the ongoing, never ending FSM discussion and they drop through X that there are female Custodes and ban anyone that opposes the idea.

And i might not be the biggest 40k fan that's in the hobby for years or decades (mini's and tabletop side, i did game since Space Crusade on the Amiga) and i don't know the entire origin of GW and their politics from years back, but after a little studying online i would call them liberal, left leaning but not outright woke. Well untill now, cause the spotlight is on GW right now and they can either man up, double down on femstodes and show some official models, art or whatever they have ready for this revelation or quietly walk back and play dumb like this never happened.

And one would think that they would have ANYTHING to show with this revelation, cause now it looks like they just stirred the pot to create a shit storm and nothing more.

And the biggest issue? All of these IPs were already inclusive, diverse, and for everyone. There was nothing stopping anyone from loving Star Wars and the strong female characters like Mon Mothma. There was nothing from letting gay and black folks from loving the shit out of Space Marines and Custodes. There was nothing stopping *anyone* from creating their ideal character in Dungeons and Dragons.

Instead, they try to gaslight fans. Claim that it was never inclusive, that they are setting things right, all while butchering the games we love. It gets tiring.

 

[Trogdor1123]

Finished Mortis today on the way to work. Pretty good book. Highly recommend it.

Every time something is about to go well, it goes bad. Every time something is going to end them, something good happens. It is a rollercoaster ride.

Sidon was such an interesting character so I especially liked how they handled that.

Probably pick up a new one tomorrow

 

[Trogdor1123]

Finally got some time to do some more painting. Hit a wall on my skill for my librarian but I think it is ok for a noob like me. Did some initial work on some tyranids too. I don’t enjoy them as much as the space marines for some reason. They’re fine, just not as enjoyable. Maybe after I get to some of the bigger ones

 

[Trogdor1123]

Forgot to share this months free mini too. Pretty cool imo . The old world minis are just so cool I’m thinking about getting some just for painting. Also, the new White dwarf is nearly 200 pages too. Crazy

 

[Darkmakaimura]

Forgot to share this months free mini too. Pretty cool imo . The old world minis are just so cool I’m thinking about getting some just for painting. Also, the new White dwarf is nearly 200 pages too. Crazy

I'm almost kind of jealous on how good the Warhammer Fantasy characters are models look. Many of them pretty much surpassed what number 40,000 as far as the coolness factor goes.

 

[Trogdor1123]

I'm almost kind of jealous on how good the Warhammer Fantasy characters are models look. Many of them pretty much surpassed what number 40,000 as far as the coolness factor goes.

Agreed, they are freaking awesome models.

 

[darth.shrimp]

Forgot to share this months free mini too. Pretty cool imo . The old world minis are just so cool I’m thinking about getting some just for painting. Also, the new White dwarf is nearly 200 pages too. Crazy

Those zre not "old world" though, if that's the ones you were referring to; they are from the Cities of Sigmar AoS faction. And their whole roster does, indeed, look damn good.

 

[Trogdor1123]

Those zre not "old world" though, if that's the ones you were referring to; they are from the Cities of Sigmar AoS faction. And their whole roster does, indeed, look damn good.

Good to know. I haven’t looked into any of the fantasy stuff over drooling over their models. I started the fantasy podcast of laying down the lore to get up to speed.

I already hate the Skaven though so that’s a plus.

 

[darth.shrimp]

I already hate the Skaven though so that’s a plus.

You would love Vermintide then

 

[Trogdor1123]

Titanicus took readers choice for 2024. I guess I better read that.

Dan Abnett must be on of the worlds most prolific writers. To pull stories, lore, and the business line together is nothing short of incredible