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Metroid: other mother
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Metroid: other mother
Only EU and Japan, saddly.Is this on WiiU VC by chance?
After i experienced OtherM i am convinced that the late Gunpei Yokoi had a much bigger role in the early Metroid games that we thought. I bet he was keeping Sakamoto at bay whenever he proposed something stupid. With OtherM Sakamoto was in full control with nobody slapping some sense to him.
Don't sully Coraline's good name
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Yeah, that's also very likelyI heard Yokoi didn't have that much to do with Super Metroid's development. Like I just said in my other post, I just think Sakamoto completely forgot what made Metroid work.
"Why is Samus purple" is a genuine question Sakamoto asked during the development of the game and is why the Gravity Suit in the final product is a hideous pink glow.
Oh definately, it's just used to mock it after they hate it or heard it's bad. Similar to the baby stuff which sounds odd yeah but after the opening cinematic 4 mentions you're not hearing that word ever in the game, so it's odd that's the way to mock it.I don't think the title of the game contributes much, if anything, to the general disliking of the game.
People change with time and only because his track record is exceptional does not mean that everything that he is going to make is going to be gold.After i experienced OtherM i am convinced that the late Gunpei Yokoi had a much bigger role in the early Metroid games that we thought. I bet he was keeping Sakamoto at bay whenever he proposed something stupid. With OtherM Sakamoto was in full control with nobody slapping some sense to him.
Zero Mission and Fusion had sewn the seeds for Other M: linear gameplay and more story.
Fixed that for you.It means you should just play an Other Metroid
Actually, that makes the George Lucas comparison even more perfect. In the original Star Wars trilogy, we don't know who Anakin really was before he turned and become Vader, we could imagine that it was some tragic event or series of event that lead to his downfall. Then the sequel trilogy completely ruined Vader by making him seem like a complete idiot.Zero Mission and Fusion had sewn the seeds for Other M: linear gameplay and more story.
Can't we like Coraline and M:OM?
Actually, that makes the George Lucas comparison even more perfect. In the original Star Wars trilogy, we don't know who Anakin really was before he turned and become Vader, we could imagine that it was some tragic event or series of event that lead to his downfall. Then the sequel trilogy completely ruined Vader by making him seem like a complete idiot. .
They even put her in heels.
How is the Gravity Suit not iconic either? Previous games have ALWAYS had it and even used it for lots of great official art and endings.Well they thought the gravity suit's purple made it stand out too much in cinematics and decided to just keep the iconic orange from the Varia Suit.
The pink glow only activates when there's gravity elements in play, like traversing water or out in space.
I love the Gravity Suit but it's not a terrible decision to keep the Varia Suit through out.
(apparently this was "too silly" for the story... but not, you know, the content of said story)
Something that's always puzzled me about Metroid Other M, among many other things, is the title. What does it mean?
Other M = Mother
Other M = Other Metroid
I can't think of anything else, it's a really strange and confusing title that doesn't make much sense. I suppose Other Mother makes a little sense but it seems really silly. Help GAF!
A part of the fanbase wanted more story yes. They didn't want a terrible story or this particular way of storytelling with no subtlety, lots of cliches, unskippable cutscenes and melodrama.Well that and the fanbase had been screaming for more story for as long as I can remember. Then they got it, it ruined their head canon, and now Metroid is dead. I've heard Federation Force isn't terrible though.
Metroid was always considered a narrative heavy game, especially in contrast to other Nintendo series. Super Metroid has a ton of cinematic elements which really get an emotional reaction from the player, my favourite being frying Draigon and then have the kids take the corpse away.Zero Mission and Fusion had sewn the seeds for Other M: linear gameplay and more story.
Yeah it is, the Prime Trilogy is too.
Only EU and Japan, saddly.
My problem with Sakamoto is that he admitted in an interview that he wanted to turn Metroid into a more accessible game for the casual crowd. I don't have a link, this was a long time ago but it was his words. This means he doesn't care anymore about any of the aspects that made older Metroid games what they are. And then he did another one after the game bombed and said the reason it bombed was because players couldn't accept that Samus is a woman or something incredible stupid like that. Which means he doesn't know what he is talking about.Sakamoto sitting in the director's chair for the first time in 15 years, in a project that was massive in scope and having to deal with many foreign elements was a mistake and over ambitious. People's toxic attitude to this is pretty hard to stomach and it's similar to the Federation Force scandal, in how negativity spirals out of control at times. Sakamoto is still one of Nintendo's best producers and he would still be able to produce a great traditional Metroid if it were the case, but don't worry folks since his promotion he won't have time to baby sit (get it?) a new project as hands on as before.
Oh it's definately iconic in it's own way but it definately isn't as iconic as the regular colors which is how she's depicted in most media and fan art.How is the Gravity Suit not iconic either? Previous games have ALWAYS had it and even used it for lots of great official art and endings.
Sakamoto was confused why it even existed, and when reminded it DID exist, he felt it was "too silly" for the tone of the story?
(apparently this was "too silly" for the story... but not, you know, the content of said story)
The accessibility concept came in two forms; simplifying controls and putting samus front and center, NES game with the latest technology I'm fine with, as it tries to appeal to the disenfranchised fan base of the original in Japan which was a huge hit, tap into the less core audience with an action game that's simple to control. It ended up being a interesting restriction that led to interesting designs around it which was met with a mixed reception.My problem with Sakamoto is that he admitted in an interview that he wanted to turn Metroid into a more accessible game for the casual crowd. I don't have a link, this was a long time ago but it was his words. This means he doesn't care anymore about any of the aspects that made older Metroid games what they are.
I don't hate him (how can you hate the creator of Super Metroid) i just don't agree with his current stance anymore so i hope he doesn't touch the franchise again.
Only EU and Japan, saddly.
My problem with Sakamoto is that he admitted in an interview that he wanted to turn Metroid into a more accessible game for the casual crowd. I don't have a link, this was a long time ago but it was his words. This means he doesn't care anymore about any of the aspects that made older Metroid games what they are. And then he did another one after the game bombed and said the reason it bombed was because players couldn't accept a female character or something incredible stupid like that. Which means he doesn't know what he is talking about.
You mean this one?The other interview you mention after the game's release about accepting female characters was fake.
You mean this one?
http://www.nintendolife.com/forums/wii/sakamoto_metroid_other_m_failed_because_players_were_reluctant_to_accept_a_female_character
Thanks for the links btw.
That was the source huh, i guess i did fell for that one. I'm actually happy that it's a fake.Yes, that was a fake, satire article.
http://www.p4rgaming.com/metroid-ot...nd-sales-due-to-having-female-lead-character/
The other interview you mention after the game's release about accepting female characters was fake.
There's nothing wrong with making your games accessible, that has been one of Nintendo's most fervent beliefs and it always will be. Making a game accessible doesn't mean it can't be complex and challenging, just that it mustn't be completely impenetrable. A new player should be able to pick up and learn the basic mechanics without feeling frustrated, that's what Nintendo mean when they talk about accessibility.
Other M is just a badly designed game that tries to reduce the traditional complexity of Metroid in the most brain-dead manner, hoping that a garbage story will compensate for it.
Giving clear cut directions in terms of where they should go next, through dialogue and drama scenes, is something that we thought would help with that.
That storyboard doesn't even show the part Other M depicts. The comments are from the perspective of a player who has never experienced that fight and expressing surprise at something new. Other M's version is a cutscene made for people already familiar with it and it doesn't do a bad job apart from the hyper beam not being rainbow colored.Sakamoto is actually the same dude who wrote all those story segments in Super Metroid by himself.
Now look at the recreation of the same scene in Other M. CGI is pretty yes, but it really shows that Sakamoto forgot what made the original scene in SM work, with the lame lines from Samus ("Why am I still alive? The baby...") and the cheesy anime music. There's nothing subtle about it.
Actually, that makes the George Lucas comparison even more perfect. In the original Star Wars trilogy, we don't know who Anakin really was before he turned and become Vader, we could imagine that it was some tragic event or series of event that lead to his downfall. Then the sequel trilogy completely ruined Vader by making him seem like a complete idiot.
In the same vein, we didn't really know who Samus Aran as a person was. In Fusion Adam is name dropped, but the relationship is no way explained, just that they were acquainted. Were they lovers, just friends? It was left open. But thanks to Other M, we finally understand that she is a scared little girl with father issues deep down whose only wish is to get conformation from her father surrogate. Well played, Sakamoto.
Should have called it the Mother Base.The primary villain of the game is a clone of Mother Brain named "MB." Other M, other mother. Very simple anagram of "Mother" as well, which is what Samus refers to Mother Brain as in the game at one point. The game's initials are also "MOM."
Essentially, the game has the subtlety of a sledgehammer about its themes about motherhood.
The game takes place on a ship that's shaped like a large baby's bottle called "BOTTLE Ship" for chrissake.