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What "hardcore" like titles are lacking on the Nintendo Switch thus far for you?
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CrazyArcadia
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Point here: PS4 or Xbone mostly are lacking in hardcore games, as well
At least if you define hardcore over a certain amount of complexity and demanding gameplay found in some niche PC games (though CRPGs at least are coming over these days for the most part, even things like Divinity:OS or Torment). If you instead define it over the lack of colors/whimsical style or "mature" themes, yeah, not sure what to say, for games styled like that, the Switch will probably get some, but not in the spotlight for the most part.Though, depending on how you want to define "hardcore", I would say both Zelda and ARMS (and Disgaea 5, Puyo Puyo Tetris) are pretty hardcore. Either very competitive or complex games. Splatoon 2, Xenoblade 2, Shin Megami Tensei 4 and Metroid Prime 4 will be, as well.
Anyway, I personally look forward to any sort of Japanese character action games/Arcade style games or RPGs hopefully, Platinum Games, Atlus, From Software, Suda 51 and maybe even SEGA and SNK (I am actually hoping for a KoF14 release after setting up all the classics via Hamster, kind of) will deliver. Also, Arcade racing games. Would actually love for M2 to continue their SEGA classic series on the Switch with 3D-era SEGA games such as Daytona, Outrun 2, Virtual Fighter 3, House of the Dead-series etc.
And in general, and this is the same as with Wii/WiiU, I would love to have some FPS games available. Not a huge fan of the genre on consoles because of the controls vs PC mouse/keyboard, but I found the genre, for me, gains a lot via motion controls.
Toadthemushroom
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A wider variety of sports games, though that's probably more of a symptom of the market right now than anything else. But I'd like to see stuff equivalent to the likes of Daytona USA, 1080 Snowboarding and Wave Race 64. Or even Wii Sports Resort or Rockstar Presents Table Tennis.
While we're at it: Racing/driving games. When Codemasters were on the slide of publishers supporting the Switch I was hoping for a quick port of one of my favourite racing games: DiRT Rally. But even that hasn';t happened. Neither has DiRT 4 or F1 2017. Or even top-down racing like Micro Machines.
I'm itching for a good arcade racer or sim on Switch. Last gen's handhelds, 3DS and Vita, were hardly an embarrassment of riches either. PSP had OutRun 2006, Ridge Racers 1+2, a decent but uninspired Gran Turismo, competent versions of Sega Rally Revo and FlatOut. DS had a whole bunch of racing games from Firebrand Games, including GRID and Trackmania.
While we're at it: Racing/driving games. When Codemasters were on the slide of publishers supporting the Switch I was hoping for a quick port of one of my favourite racing games: DiRT Rally. But even that hasn';t happened. Neither has DiRT 4 or F1 2017. Or even top-down racing like Micro Machines.
I'm itching for a good arcade racer or sim on Switch. Last gen's handhelds, 3DS and Vita, were hardly an embarrassment of riches either. PSP had OutRun 2006, Ridge Racers 1+2, a decent but uninspired Gran Turismo, competent versions of Sega Rally Revo and FlatOut. DS had a whole bunch of racing games from Firebrand Games, including GRID and Trackmania.
ResidentWeevil13
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Dark Souls trilogy. Damn whoever started that rumour...
Skittzo0413
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The rumor was always that From was considering a trilogy release for all platforms. There was never a rumor that the trilogy was headed to Switch, much less anything else.
I need:
Auto-action/sandbox games: Like GTA and Mafia. My only handheld experience has been GTA titles on PSP. Both PSP GTA games were amazing and left me asking for more. I really hope Switch will be the handheld that brings the genre to the medium but sandbox games are kinda dead everywhere nowadays.
Mascot slashers: Like DMC or Ninja Gaiden. Another genre that had handheld presence with only handful of titles: God of War PSP titles, Ninja Gaiden Dragon Sword on DS and Ninja Gaiden Sigma 1-2 on Vita. That's it. No DMC, no Onmusha, no Darksiders, no Soul Reaver... Switch need some slasher action fun, and Platinum is the best studio to do that.
Arcade racers: Switch is the first handheld to launch without a Ridge Racer since DS. Weird move by Namco. The thing is, the other alive arcade racer franchises are not making an appearance on Switch either: NFS and Dirt. They play perfectly on handhelds, I wasted so many hours on every racing game on PSP.
Auto-action/sandbox games: Like GTA and Mafia. My only handheld experience has been GTA titles on PSP. Both PSP GTA games were amazing and left me asking for more. I really hope Switch will be the handheld that brings the genre to the medium but sandbox games are kinda dead everywhere nowadays.
Mascot slashers: Like DMC or Ninja Gaiden. Another genre that had handheld presence with only handful of titles: God of War PSP titles, Ninja Gaiden Dragon Sword on DS and Ninja Gaiden Sigma 1-2 on Vita. That's it. No DMC, no Onmusha, no Darksiders, no Soul Reaver... Switch need some slasher action fun, and Platinum is the best studio to do that.
Arcade racers: Switch is the first handheld to launch without a Ridge Racer since DS. Weird move by Namco. The thing is, the other alive arcade racer franchises are not making an appearance on Switch either: NFS and Dirt. They play perfectly on handhelds, I wasted so many hours on every racing game on PSP.
Lewd.
friskykillface
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Surprised activision hasn't announced call of duty remastered for the system yet
No lie I'd pay $40 to but it today on switch but not on PS4 or Xbox one
Dark souls was really something I thought would show up at E3
GTA is a long shot but I think they could get a two cart version out, one for story x one for multiplayer
No lie I'd pay $40 to but it today on switch but not on PS4 or Xbox one
Dark souls was really something I thought would show up at E3
GTA is a long shot but I think they could get a two cart version out, one for story x one for multiplayer
They're decent actually. IR is still better though in my opinion. Maybe that will change when I see more first party implementation of pointer controls. But they don't feel quite right in... say... World of Goo for example. They're too sensitive and there is too much drift forcing you to recalibrate every few motions.
That's fine for most gyro controls but not when emulating pointer controls in my opinion.
As for my answer to the OP: Switch needs an F-Zero title in my opinion.
System is just coming up on finishing its 4th month in the market and some folks acting like everything they want should either already be out or announced for the system.
Like people clearly do not understand how this industry works.
Personally, I hope we see more announcements from those developers who were announced as partners back in January. Hopefully we see a wide variety of games. I can't speak to any specifics really, but I think that the system needs some more meaty single player games. Some things like Dragon's Dogma or Souls would be good. Just not sure the industry can support this system too even if it is successful.
Like people clearly do not understand how this industry works.
Personally, I hope we see more announcements from those developers who were announced as partners back in January. Hopefully we see a wide variety of games. I can't speak to any specifics really, but I think that the system needs some more meaty single player games. Some things like Dragon's Dogma or Souls would be good. Just not sure the industry can support this system too even if it is successful.
My thoughts as well, especially on the VC front.
ResidentWeevil13
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The rumor stated they had Dark Souls 3 running on switch at a performance-level that was acceptable and were considering a trilogy rerelease for the platform.
http://letsplayvideogames.com/2016/...-from-software-considering-trilogy-rerelease/
Skittzo0413
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Right, which is absolutely no indication that they ever planned to release it. Just that it was running and they were considering a trilogy release for all platforms.
Just wanted to be clear in saying that I understand why many of these games aren't on the Switch yet. Just for me personally until some amazing third-person action games get released for the system it will not get extended play time with what's available right now. I've been diggin' Arms but it's just fun in short bursts and I need a deep action or RPG title to satisfy my tastes.
It was the same scenario when I bought a Wii U. It was cool but overall until games like The Wonderful 101 and Bayonetta 2 came out, it was just collecting dust.
It was the same scenario when I bought a Wii U. It was cool but overall until games like The Wonderful 101 and Bayonetta 2 came out, it was just collecting dust.
The_Endgamer
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RTS. It literally is the perfect console for a Starcraft/Heroes of the Storm type game.
I really wish Dawn of War would come though... Dat touch screen...
I really wish Dawn of War would come though... Dat touch screen...
killatopak
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Souls?
Wolfgunblood Garopa
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All of them?
There just isn't a lot to the Switch library other than the novelty of Nintendo games, which is still pretty great in it's own right. It's going to be awhile before the library isn't considered lacking, if ever.
There just isn't a lot to the Switch library other than the novelty of Nintendo games, which is still pretty great in it's own right. It's going to be awhile before the library isn't considered lacking, if ever.
Majmun
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ResidentWeevil13
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I really don't understand what your quibble is here...
There was a rumour that From was considering a trilogy release and that it would come to the switch. We don't know if that rumor was true and didn't pan out, is true and still possibly happening, or was bogus to begin with.
Regardless I am left disappointed because the rumour has yet to pan out
Camp Freddie
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This. Switch is an entirely different ecosystem to PC/PS4/XBone.
I kinda think Nintendo should just keep on doing their own thing.
Anyone that wants 'western' AAA games will already have an XBone/PS4 by now.
RoboGeorgeForeman
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Mostly games from Vanillaware, Falcom, and quite a bit of Bandai Namco's upcoming catalog. If it starts getting games from those three companies, I probably won't see a need to grab another console until the end of the generation.
Skittzo0413
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A lot of people claim that this was another one of Laura Kate Dale's false rumors. They say she claimed there was a DS3 or trilogy port in the works and was going to be announced for the Switch. But she never said that- all she said was that DS3 was running on the Switch decently and that From was considering releasing the trilogy for all platforms.
I'd love if DS3 or the trilogy came to the Switch but the rumor never attempted to claim that such a thing was being planned or in the works. Just a possibility.
Pay Day 2 is coming, I checked out the game for the first time with Xbox one game pass and was surprised that it will be perfect for Switch. I always thought it was some online co-op only shooter. But all of the missions can be played offline with bots, it has lots of content and leveling up which work the same for offline and online, this will def be a good FPS on Switch.
Point here: PS4 or Xbone mostly are lacking in hardcore games, as well
Though, depending on how you want to define "hardcore", I would say both Zelda and ARMS (and Disgaea 5, Puyo Puyo Tetris) are pretty hardcore. Either very competitive or complex games. Splatoon 2, Xenoblade 2, Shin Megami Tensei 4 and Metroid Prime 4 will be, as well.
Yeah I'm really surprised by the definition of "hardcore" game from some of the posts here. Sports games and FPS like Cod and Overwatch doesn't really scream hardcore to me. And indeed the games I personally see as hardcore are mostly lacking in any consoles. Though you make a good point with the crpg:s being ported nowadays. Wouldn't mind some of those reaching Switch too. Don't know how much there is an audience for them on Switch, I don't think they are that hot on PS4/Xbox either? The Shmups in the OP seem to fit my personal understanding of hardcore too, from the little knowledge I have about the genre. When the game is designed with accessibility and mainstream appeal in mind, it usually loses much of what makes a game "hardcore".
I feel that for many the term "hardcore" comes down to *Not a Nintendo kiddies game*. So more about the artstyle and violence of the game than anything else. And something like Uncharted would be considered "hardcore" for unexplainable reasons. The game version of a blockbuster/popcorn flick.
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Personally? None as I'd rather play those games on PS4 Pro or PC with better graphics as the portability doesn't matter much to me.
Not personally? Pretty much all of them as there's not a traditional FPS, sports sims, racing sim, Tekken 7, Injustice 2, GTA/Ass Creed type games etc. etc. yet.
Not personally? Pretty much all of them as there's not a traditional FPS, sports sims, racing sim, Tekken 7, Injustice 2, GTA/Ass Creed type games etc. etc. yet.