We're supposed to blame ourselves for Sega not putting Monkey Ball DX on the GC when that's the console that supported the franchise?
You already have 1 and 2 on the console. Do you really want those extra levels? Like,
really want them? Write to SEGA, but I don't think they'll release another full fledged SMB game for the GC. They probably just wanted a port to Xbox and perhaps PC.
Anyway, I just thought it was funny that we "deserve" Billy Hatcher like it's some POS, when it is a very solid game (and fun to boot!). I know this is something people like you just don't get, but some people actually have different tastes. Like say, they may like a platformer more than a hockey game, no matter what the presentation is like.
Who said it was a POS? All I said is that the GC
deserves titles like BH because it suits the console userbase. IMO games like JGRF should belong on the GC. If you asked me if SEGA f*cked up there, I'd agree!
But complaining that the Xbox got SMB is pathetic, it's not a big massive mistake on SEGA's part at all.
Hey, Capcom has discontinued support on the Xbox. I plan to buy RE4 and whatever new games they release on other consoles. I'm not going to whine and complain, I'll accept it and move on.
Wow, so much animosity in this thread directed at Nintendo fans, WTF did we ever do? Dared to make the choice of buying a console that didnt have a Sony or MS logo emblazoned on it? And for this choice we must be punished by arrogant third parties that think I'm going to buy a second and third console just to play their games, PIGS ARSE!!! listen up I'm the consumer and third parties you should be my bitch not the other way around. Here is a console that I own, if you want my money make some damn games for it, it's as simple as that.
No, not animosity towards Nintendo fans.
A LOT of Nintendo fans are
perfectly happy with the GC. There is this minority (that has participated in this thread) that are whining and complaining over a small issue. If they want to see games like the ESPN series and Burnout 3 on the GC, then they should start buying those games. Most Nintendo fans aren't interested by those games. So it makes perfect sense that you don't see the console getting those ports. Now if a GC owner wants these games, buy another console...that is, if they haven't supported the GC racer/sports games with purchases.
As I'm playing Monkey Ball on my Xbox, I will be thinking of the whiners in this thread, and it will make the gameplay experience all that more sweet.
*ROFLMAO*
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So you are saying that this "die-hard simulation" hockey game necessarily implies a greater "maturity" level in the person who plays it than does a person playing an arcade action title.
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You, sir, are the EA of gamers.
Yeah. If you prefer an arcadey action game, you obviously don't truly appreciate the sport and aren't a die hard hockey fan. Calling it the best hockey game...it's like calling Pilotwings the best flight game ever. Or like calling KI the best fighting game.
The EA of gamers? That doesn't make any sense. Sorry.
efralope: I bought a Dreamcast and Sega Saturn AFTER I got a Gamecube.
Sega: We could have used that money when we were still supporting our systems. Thanks for absolutely nothing.
Rollin on da f*ckin floor...
You know...
you NEVER saw this when MGS 2 Substance was ported to the Xbox.
Oh dear... classic Sega. Classic GAF too, very funny. However the level of vitriol spewed by the Sega hardcore surprises me. The ineptitude of Sega is a serious matter, particularly for the Sega fan, and this is another example of ineptitude. They've got a perfectly good game that people have been prepared to pay $40 for and what do they do? Porting the games at a budget price could make sense, bundling the pair would too perhaps(although with debatable brand building value), heck even adding some stuff would seeing as how late and crappy ports are always rightly derided and always doomed.
You contradict yourself. First you claim people would pay $40 for it...then later in the next paragraph you
admit that these games don't sell as well on the Xbox.
But this, releasing the bundled product at a budget price is reckless stupidity. Talk about devaluing a brand. Looking at this as a low risk profit making port is incredibly short sighted. It's gonna be a lot harder to justify full price for part 3 when you get 1+2+0.5 for only $30. It could also very well lead to lesser coverage of the series in specialist Nintendo media resulting in lower sales down the road.
It's quite possible that the series is at the end of it's rope. Time to milk it for what it's worth. Frankly I wish this occurred with MORE SEGA games! Especially the arcade classics!
It's easy to just point and allege Nintendo fanboyism, but the fact is Sega games have sold strongly on the Gamecube. Conversely they have done badly(western sports aside) on the Xbox. Sure, it's easy to say that it doesn't have to be fair, that Sega can give the two fingers to Nintendo. That they can suck up to MS and their 'incentives'. But tell me, how exactly did giving away a million Sega GTs in the bundle pack help the follow up sell as was predicted in many a thread? When do you think we'll see sequels to Panzer Dragoon, Jet Set, HOTD and Crazy Taxi? It's now possible we never will... What about this merger with Sammy, is that the sign of a healthy developer? Or how about Satomi's comments regarding how Sega should focus on the profitable arcades and less on the consumer market?
SEGA is just releasing a port of a series that could be dead in their books. You're trying to read into it too much. If it was ported to the Xbox, a PC port isn't that far behind.
I didn't go all nutzorz when Sonic R was ported to the PC. It had a few extras...but I understood that SEGA just wanted to milk it on another platform. And this was back in the day when they had their OWN platform. They did the same to many of their 16-bit games. I think it makes perfect sense to have these PC ports appear on the Xbox and vice versa.
However you delude yourselves, sales do matter. They resulted in the death of the Dreamcast which pained the fans. They have also resulted in cutbacks in console software development. If sales don't rise, then those cutbacks will continue. It's got nothing to do with quaint fanboy fanaticism; If Sega put Beach Spikers(part 2 preferably) on Xbox I would be applauding. If Shining Force was on GC as well as ps2 I would be applauding. But this nonsensical strategy, where unprofitable and unsustainable games are made, where fans are 'knifed' rather than supported, where games are devalued, this I can only watch in disillusionment. It is bad for me, it is bad for gamers, it is bad for Sega and ultimately it is bad for Sega fans.
So SMB on the Xbox is bad for SEGA and bad for SEGA fans? I disagree. I think it's
GREAT and we need to see more of this. If JGRF ever made it to the GC, and was at a low price...that would be the kind of moves they need to make to become profitable. If they ported Astroboy to the GC next year, again, awesome move.
You've posted nothing to show or prove that SMB to the Xbox is a bad idea. Your post was a general rant that in all honestly couldn't be applied to the 7 pages of conversation had here. Don't mean to be insulting...but that's how I see it.