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Why are so many senior Starfleet officers corrupt and/or insane?
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Cameron122
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BABYLON 5 IS BETTER
Q is fucking awesome so you shut your mouth.
Red Arremer
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To be fair, Picard had been offered becoming an admiral at least once, but he denied it because he wanted to keep commandeering a ship instead of having a desk job.
Also, Sisko went to become a member of the Prophets after the Dominion War's conclusion, otherwise he likely would've been promoted.
And Janeway caused significant damage to the Borg Collective by destroying their transwarp conduits.
Not saying Janeway isn't absolutely batshit crazy, cause she is, but I felt that point is a bit unfair even to her lol.
Darkmakaimura
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Admiral Jameson
Supplied weapons to terrorists and covered it up. He later took two vials of reverse ageing drugs, and degenerated into youth and insanity.
Insanity rating: ****
Archer's daddy built the Enterprise warp drive or something. That's all he needed on his resume.
Janeway probably just played along with the Federation and only unleashed her madness in the delta quadrant, where no one could take the commanda way from her.
BattleMonkey
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Yup, best parts of trek was when they showed the cracks in the Federation. Humanity would not stand for that crap
The Cowboy
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I was mad a s hell when I watched the movie that showed Janeway as an admiral ,if anything after reading all her reports she should have been demoted to Ensign (or perhaps even Cadet and forced to redo Starfleet academy training).
Some of the things she did - just WOW.
Some of the things she did - just WOW.
Red Arremer
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Yup.
Fair enough.
Nechayev was not that bad. She definitely didn't do anything that was power hungry, corrupt or insane. Everyone one of her positions was rather sensible. She made concessions with the Cardassians because it was a better option than a confrontation. And with the borg, desperate times call for desperate measures.
Imbarkus
As Sartre noted in his contemplation on Hell in No Exit, the true horror is other members.
Admiral Blackwell
Mocked Jean Luc for Captain Picard Day.
Insanity rating: ***** multiplied by ∞
Mocked Jean Luc for Captain Picard Day.
Insanity rating: ***** multiplied by ∞
DrForester
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I don't blame Janeway for Tuvix. She made an emotional call to save two people at the expense of someone who was never supposed to exist in the first place.
superdeluxe
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Nice post!
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
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Infinity
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Thank you, OP, for this thread. What a wonderful way to reacquaint myself with Trek lore.
But yeah, Braxton was batshit crazy. Ransom was pretty damn mad too, but the road he took was to save his people from starvation. Doesn't make it right, but you know ... The road paved with good intentions blah, blah, blah...
But yeah, Braxton was batshit crazy. Ransom was pretty damn mad too, but the road he took was to save his people from starvation. Doesn't make it right, but you know ... The road paved with good intentions blah, blah, blah...
DrForester
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Despite being the best Captain Sisko had his own bouts of crazy. Even Kirk and Picard did their fair share of terrible things.
Kirk put a megalomaniac in charge if his own planet and never checked up on them. He's responsible for every person Khan later.
Sisko destroyed the atmosphere of an entire planet to scare out one man.
Ransom didn't get the magic ship that fully healed itself once a week with an unlimited power supply and shuttlecraft replicator. The Equinox was Voyager without god mode turned on.
Kirk put a megalomaniac in charge if his own planet and never checked up on them. He's responsible for every person Khan later.
Sisko destroyed the atmosphere of an entire planet to scare out one man.
Ransom didn't get the magic ship that fully healed itself once a week with an unlimited power supply and shuttlecraft replicator. The Equinox was Voyager without god mode turned on.
Mama Robotnik
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Plus that whole murder thing, the implied request to Worf for him to kill the obstinate leader of the Klingon empire, and allowing his staff to use invasive mind probe technology on Sloane to extract information from him.
Season 6/7 Sisko really isn't the same character as Season 1 Sisko.
SquiddyCracker
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In a world where money is kinda pointless, the only remaining measures through which you can compare yourself with your lessers is fame & power.
Mama Robotnik
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Bonus question: Who was the most insane?
Rei no Otaku
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That's because Sisko knew what had to be done. You know why the Federation won the Dominion War? Sisko.
Religion corrupted Siskos morals in DS9.
BattleMonkey
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But money does have value in trek, just not the federation.
Rei no Otaku
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Exactly. There's a little speech Sisko gives where he says something to the effect of the Federation ideals are all well and good back on Earth where it's a paradise, but out there in the "real" world it just doesn't work.
I don't know if it was religion so much as seeing thousands die everyday in a brutal war.
TheKaeptain
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They've seen some shit man.
Rhomega Beta
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I take it you haven't seen Nemesis (at all or at least in a long time). She was the one who contacted Picard at the beginning and sent him to Romulus.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Darkmakaimura
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Haha!
Darkmakaimura
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I wanna see Star Trek go Dead Space 9. Have some really dark dystopian future that would put the Mirror Universe to shame.
I can still enjoyed bad Trek films but Insurrection isn't one of them for that very reason. I remember the first time I watched I wasn't sure who I was suppose to be cheering for because I didn't agree with Picard and crew at all. I'm pretty sure there was an episode like this in the TNG series as well. One with a group of Native Americans but can't be sure.
See You Next Wednesday
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Space madness, probably.
Nailed it. The button was too much of a temptation to not push!
DinnerRevealer
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Admiral Ross
Sanctioned a Section 31 Plan to destroy the life and career of an innocent Romulan woman, so that a Starfleet Intelligence stooge could be installed in her place.
Insanity Rating: (half a star)
Seems like a standard intelligence strategy
The Karasumori
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They don't become Starfleet admirals on a whim. All that cram school leaves them with long term psychological effects.
Good article
When they try to promote Picard to Admiral again in the books (after a Borg invasion) he basically says hell no, and then quotes Kirk's statement to him in Generations that he can actually get stuff done as a Captain.
Which explains why Janeway was made Admiral. She was a hero to the folks back home, but as an Admiral she can't cause NEARLY as many problems.
Which explains why Janeway was made Admiral. She was a hero to the folks back home, but as an Admiral she can't cause NEARLY as many problems.
Darkmakaimura
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I forgot about those things. Last we seen/heard, they had sent out that signal. Who knows how many officials they could infect. I wouldn't mind a follow up to the Trek Xenomorphs.These things:
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
She's the classic example of promoting a problem away.
lastplayed
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Admiral Nechayev was hot.
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