Either that or temporal reconstruction. Or both. Who knows.
Awful solution for this game though. At least Quantum break (which uses temporal reconstruction) slaps 4XMSAA on top of it.
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Why does FF: XV Demo's IQ look so bad? Artificial sharpening filter in place?
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Either that or temporal reconstruction. Or both. Who knows.
Awful solution for this game though. At least Quantum break (which uses temporal reconstruction) slaps 4XMSAA on top of it.
test_account
XP-39C²
I really hope for the developement team's sake that they manage to pull through. Seem like they are working hard on it.
Ricerocket
Member
I'm expecting more downgrades as they optimize for stable fps for release. The scope of this game is too big for current consoles.
Perfo
Thirteen flew over the cuckoo's nest
Did anyone managed to take a screen of the car? That too looked awful while in the trailers I always liked it, same as in Duscae. WTF is going on with this demo.
This topic doesn't really convince me btw, Witcher 3 is huge and graphically way more impressing at impact.
This topic doesn't really convince me btw, Witcher 3 is huge and graphically way more impressing at impact.
From those images, I think the game looks great 
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I guess I need to see footage of the new demo in action before commenting though, but I feel the game looks really great from the screen shots you guys have in this thread.
I'm more worried about the performance and if Square can nail that, then they are fine in my book.
! I guess I need to see footage of the new demo in action before commenting though, but I feel the game looks really great from the screen shots you guys have in this thread.
I'm more worried about the performance and if Square can nail that, then they are fine in my book.
Yeah the term is ambiguous because we really don't know what they mean by that. Even where the statement came from, brings up combat being final and yet it's missing things. (Weapon abilities, team attacks, summoning.) I think it might be just a PR statement to hype up the demo.
It's weird they even called this a demo, when ever they brought this up in ATR it was a tech demo...
Anyway, we know that Tabata said they working on optimizing the game till it comes out, so hopefully the iron things out, though I think this means we might have a huge day one patch.
nelsonroyale
Member
The Division has better GI? Maybe in the original trailer, I don't think subsequently. Especially during the day it can look a bit cartoony. Also, I don't get your statement. This has very good lighting, so how is it an argument for baked lighting? Unless you mean the penalty on performance...Real time GI is best for open world games anyway...
The rest of my point still stands, but I actually didn't know Witcher 2 wasn't open world so thanks for that
Ah well there it is, thanks.
Buy a PC and keep your current PS4.
Pretty much, hopefully they get things sorted out.
Coonce
Member
But it looks so good though, and this is the same room just different TOD
the marble art at the top here looks super blurry, everything just looks like a texture quality was set to low.
It probably will. They have a relative long period in which to gett cracking.
Ahh, yeah. Nice catch.
Can't believe I'm saying this, but PS4K can't come soon enough. Provided that they would give some kind of patch for the game on that system. Or just a good old PC version. I actually used to think that this looked like a graphical showcase for some reason. Maybe other games came and changed my expectations or I'm just remembering pre-rendered footage.
Like others have said, the game has decent assets but the end result is downright ugly at times. A huge mainline FF game shouldn't be ugly. It should soar in the sky with the top graphical dogs. Well that is of course my own self-imposed expectations based on their past mainline FF games.
Like others have said, the game has decent assets but the end result is downright ugly at times. A huge mainline FF game shouldn't be ugly. It should soar in the sky with the top graphical dogs. Well that is of course my own self-imposed expectations based on their past mainline FF games.
Coonce
Member
I agree, I remember when FF13 came out on PS3, it was a graphical showstopper. I was amazed with how great the character models/scenery looked, but looking at these screens, I'm not getting the same "wow" factor at all.
It was a joke. I have a beastly PC. I just find it funny how some people can moan so much about a new PS4 or XB1 and make threads like these.
PS4K isn't the Savior and it's so fucking annoying that people keep saying it.
This is all software issues and this game should have no problems hitting 30fps and 1080p on PS4. We have better looking games on the console that run perfectly at 30 and 1080p without a dynamic resolution to help it.
This is a square enix issue and nothing more.
Now can people drop the omg PS4k save us bullshit.
MatrixMan.EXE
Member
Yup. 100%. It's their tech. I almost feel as though they're making it all up as they go along, so to speak. We may not get a stable luminous engine game until FFXVI, and even that's a stretch. As much as I'm hyped for this game, it's very disappointing.
Wait till the full release and see.
vpance
Member
Yes the penalty in performance (at least according to how they implemented it) was not worth it IMO. The Division real time lighting is more subtle but the dynamic weather is much more impressive. Rain in XV is basically just some reflective shader adjustments.
After some tweaks and mods on PC I've no doubt it could begin to look impressive. But as is its a disappointment.
UpDownLeftRight
Banned
To be fair a lot of FFXIII was made up of extremely detailed skyboxes, or at least that's how it looked. I'll always remember that as a drawback personally since the world looked stunning, but you can never go to see any of it. It was one beautiful carrot on a stick though. I certainly despise the blur happening in this though since it's extremely distracting. I'll get used to it no doubt, but I'd really rather not have to as it's hampering the experience a bit. I don't want to have to stand still any time I want to glance off at some of the assets.
I lost it when that shadow boss guy flexed some particles in a completely empty city and both versions immediately dropped to 20I would have been fine with the graphics if the demo at least had smooth performance.
But it looked bad AND performed terribly. It was like the worst of both worlds
This scene must be running at 5fps in their current console build:
Sure but you can already tell that FFXV will have much more diversity when it comes to it's environments. You can' tell me that the Witcher 3 even comes close to the amount of varied environments displayed in the FFXV environmental trailer. As big and as good as Witcher 3 looks they re used a lot of the same assets for their buildings and towns. All of the towns in Witcher 3 look identical to each other for the most part.
funkystudent
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Would rather have no AA then whatever vasiline they are using. It' looks worse then a good 720p game iq wise.
Killroyskbg
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Yeah that will be alot cheaper
Psychological Intellect
Banned
Wonder what kind of reception SE was expecting from this demo?
Try infamous Second Son dude
JayBabay
Member
Everyone saying how much this game needs PS4K, and while I agree this isn't the only game that's looked underwhelming recently, but just look at how crisp looking and smooth running MGSV is and that is cross platform.
Yes, there are epic summon scenes and bigger enemies. But, why when there's barely anything going on in the image do the frame rates suffer so much while the textures look more washed out. Surely, as other devs may prove, there is certainly more to the PS4 than what is on display here.
Yes, there are epic summon scenes and bigger enemies. But, why when there's barely anything going on in the image do the frame rates suffer so much while the textures look more washed out. Surely, as other devs may prove, there is certainly more to the PS4 than what is on display here.
It's the more polish demo, which is weird because they also essentially pushed that demo out the door to. Was missing features they said would be in it.
UpDownLeftRight
Banned
Do you reckon the AA is playing a part in the awful blurring on anything at a reasonable distance? It just looks kind of odd to me since it seems to blur things out rather than relying LOD or at least the blur is hiding the LOD changes very well. I've not seen anything behave quite this way before so I'm tempted to guess something is borked? It's very unusual since it creates immense blur at a distance while failing to reduce jaggies very well when up close.
You do know they've dropped Luminous for future games, right?
Only game to use it is FFXV. Anything in the future will be Unreal Engine 4.
texhnolyze
Banned
Different engine, different case.
I think other SE games are using the lighting from Luminous, can't remember what game though.
I think they said other games will, but let's wait and see.
FFXIV uses Luminous for its lighting. They also said the tech needs to prove itself first.
At the end of the day though... they have 5 months to either optimize or make changes or improvements. What they've managed to show off a year later is a big deal, obviously (as they have said) so I'm confident a lot can be done in the next 5+ months before the game actually releases.
nelsonroyale
Member
I think what was shown in the trailers clearly looks more impressive visually than Witcher 3. Having said, will need to see more actual gameplay footage to see how the final game pans out. As it is this demo is super limited in scope and not even representative of the final game. Duscae was super rough.
ArkhamFantasy
Member
The jaggies do stand out quite a bit in the platinum demo.
You do realise that The Division doesn't actually have any outdoor Realtime GI? Only a few scenes indoor seem to have a baked GI or partially Realtime.
Obviously The Division has a baked solution and it is a good one at that but FFXV'S lighting is more realistic.
The Dynamic weather? The only dynamic weather the division has is snowing or foggy, granted, it's fucking beautiful but seriously, if it rained in The Division, all it would be is wet reflective shaders.