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Wii Sports Resort
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XiaNaphryz said:
Absolutely. But I don't own a PS3, so I actually have a vested interest in reading Wii topics! It's rough these days. Seriously every thread has a four page conversation about why the game media and GAF doesn't accept these games as whatever groundbreaking bullshit some fanboy believes it is.
I am just saying, give it a break. Now back to your regularly scheduled program.
TheGrayGhost
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Wrestlemania said:
I don't think so, but it's best to really not have that be a priority for your enjoyment, as it certainly isn't a priority for Nintendo and won't be until they think it's relevant. You can still hold out hope, though.
TheGrayGhost
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Who is saying this game will be ground-breaking? It probably will be, but they're not saying that. All they're saying is that this game isn't being talked about. I don't know why they'd care, NeoGAF and the specialist press are laughably irrelevant, but still.
ViperVisor
Member
The game isn't out for a month and did I hear that just now Nintendo is getting it to the press to play.
They aren't like some who will bring in the fanboys in the media to sample the game and they proceed to whore themselves out for their pimp.
They aren't like some who will bring in the fanboys in the media to sample the game and they proceed to whore themselves out for their pimp.
Mr. Wonderful
Member
Fantastic. You're the greatest.Amir0x said:
David H Wong
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Amir0x said:
You're worse than any of them, just in the other direction. Ask yourself why you're so relentless in bashing them.
Meesh
Member
It's true, no claimed 1:1, I remember finding out it wasn't and thinking damn, I wish they didBlack-Wind said:
You played RS2 and the controls were laggy, just a bunch of predetermined slashes??? Say it aint so, puleeeeeeeeeze, I was hoping RedSteel was gonna rock, this sounds very discouraging.
Eteric Rice
Member
You know...
I wonder if this game is using the Galaxy engine...
I wonder if this game is using the Galaxy engine...
Fantastical
Death Prophet
Galaxy looks completely different...Eteric Rice said:
Eteric Rice
Member
I think Wii Music and Fit use it too...
The last screen reeks of Galaxy.
The last screen reeks of Galaxy.
DeathbyVolcano
Banned
So because there are stars in a picture, it's the same engine as Galaxy?
They look absolutely nothing alike, other than the flowers.
They look absolutely nothing alike, other than the flowers.
Davey Cakes
Member
That's actually bothered me with certain Wii games for awhile now. No one takes the motion controls seriously; they all think they're just a simple flick away from winning, when that's not the case at all.BorkBork said:
In Wii Sports it pissed me off as well, as I hate it when I'm doing full stance in baseball yet everyone else is just doing one-handed flicks. That said, in Wii Sports, flicks actually worked because the controls weren't 1:1. In Wii Sports Resort, they are, and the approach to the game's controls actually matters.
Eteric Rice
Member
BrandNew said:
Well they're not reusing the textures and stuff. Cept maybe the flowers.
It just seems really familiar looking when I think of Galaxy in some cases.
Rash said:
Those people are weirdos. Whether flicking gets you the same result or not, that is beside the point. Holding the Wiimote with both hands like a real bat is more fun than flicking. So is doing proper swing motions with tennis. As someone who actually plays tennis irl, playing Tennis on Wii properly is a billion times more fun and immersive for me than sitting on my lazy boy and flicking. If that's what people want to do, the Wii is the wrong console for them.
agrajag said:
yep, its half the fun of the game IMO. I don't care if I lose to an armchair flickerer, I have more fun.
When playing tennis I'll sometimes bounce a pretend ball with my left hand, to help with my serve timing. Doesn't make any difference to the game, but I like it
I'm not expecting WSR to be groundbreaking, but I'm hoping it'll be fun.
rollingstart
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wackojackosnose said:Play this. Ducking has never been so much fun.
Probably my favorite light gun game if only because you lean and duck around corners. So much fun to play.
Black-Wind
Member
NOOOOOOOO, thats is just what I hear from first hand impressions!Evilink said:It's true, no claimed 1:1, I remember finding out it wasn't and thinking damn, I wish they did
You played RS2 and the controls were laggy, just a bunch of predetermined slashes??? Say it aint so, puleeeeeeeeeze, I was hoping RedSteel was gonna rock, this sounds very discouraging.
From people comparing their time with WSR to their time with RS2 and from people who have played RS2. (And from vids where I can see the person and the screen )
Heres one . . .
http://www.destructoid.com/e3-09-burch-n-davis-fence-in-wii-sports-resort-134942.phtml
But hey, seems like they added more canned animations and that speed=power thing. Hoping they up-end the table on that shit . . .
Davey Cakes
Member
Definitely.agrajag said:
Even though flicking works, results are usually always more positive if the player puts in the effort to do the full motions. Or at least, that's the case for tennis and batting in Wii Sports. For pitching, I do just put the Wiimote behind my back and flick it at high or low speeds, since that's more effective in getting slow or fast pitches, at least to me.
I used to play Wii Sports tennis with my brother a lot. It seemed like every time he missed the ball or hit it the wrong way, it was because he did a simple flick, which pissed me off. Really, the game doesn't read exact movement, but it is possible to aim the ball even with the non-MotionPlus controls. The racket will swing different ways with different movements.
Some folks just misinterpreted these games. They thought Nintendo was making things so casual that all the games were just "waggle to win" when in fact the gameplay was much more rewarding when actual effort was put in.
Hell, even Twilight Princess felt better to play when I actually did slashing motions, even though flicks apparently worked just fine.
Looks doesn't really mean anything when it comes to engines. TF2>Zeno Clash>HL2Fantastical said:
I wouldn't be surprised one bit if this was powered by the same tech as Galaxy. Just like other big developers out there Nintendo has their own tech and they use it for a number of games. Upgrading it to accommodate more techniques and optimizations.
They sure as hell aren't rewriting new engines every game they make.
DefectiveReject
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Amir0x said:
HA HA, about the first time in a long time i have to disagree with you.
I would say that the amount of Wii bashing on here lately has been astronomical.
The Shia Le BeefSandwich thread is a good case in point. And the sudden Motion controls are the best thing EVA threads from Sony fanboys are laughable, as they all have been mocking Wii for years.
I actually think a good number of Whiny Nintendo fans on here have gone away or just stopped talking.
Back on this game though, it looks like a complete demonstration of the WiiMotion+ controls to me, and again like WiiSports looks to set the bar with how some genres can be handled.
Meesh
Member
...huh, thanks. WSR fencing sounds like it has real depth and complexity, which sounds good...being that you're fencing with "baloons". Too bad for RS2, maybe they oughta let Nintendo develop it? *nudge* They still have plenty of time to turn it around though realisticly, and if they've got a little play time with WSR they could see where to improve...just a thought...Black-Wind said:
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sprsk said:
Who the fuck would want to listen to club music?
kame-sennin
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CaVaYeRo said:
[Nintex] said:
Are you guys talking about some kind of dogfight? Because if you are... holy shit.
majortom1981
Member
I dont know. I think this game will be popular. The gamestop by me already has 60 reservations for this.
I think it will be another one of those big sellers that catches the gaming public off gaurd.
I think it will be another one of those big sellers that catches the gaming public off gaurd.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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Amir0x said:
No offense(I mean it this time) but you actually are exactly what you described these people as as you go out out of your why to slam those that find Wii games fun and underrated or anything positive and no, it doesn't count that you supposedly don't own a PS3 and like a few actually overrated games like that Wii Paper Mario game and the huge blockbuster titles.
In fact, I recently saw you once again in another thread make light of "Wii Fanboys" but never have I seen you use the word "Xbox 360 Fanboys" or "PS3 Fanboys" as if this "pathetic" bias doesn't exist on every platform or it's just not nearly as pronounced as it is for Nintendo gaming systems.
Ignorance and silly gaming allegiance are the same every platform and has been since the Genesis Vs. Super Nintendo days.
That is why people call you on it.
It just makes you hypocritical to waste all your efforts bashing and ridiculing Wii owners when you don't do it at all with the other system owners or at least not NEARLY the same(not even close). Wii owners surely are not as what you would call more "blind" than the other console owners, maybe their standards and preferences are just different, after all, that is what that system is all about.
As far as this game is concerned, I don't think anyone can take your comments seriously as you wrote off the first Wii Sports far before you ever played the game and anyone that does that may have an opinion but certainly are not qualified to have one, at least not in this area.
What to you are half assed tech demos are to others the most playable and replayable game packages on the market.
There's a reason Wii Sports is why the Wii is kicking all forms of ass on the market and it's not because people fake having fun with games to boost their console of choice, it's because the idea is simple, well executed and brilliantly replayable.
This new package looks like more of the same, just much, much more intuitive and satisfying because of the more precise controls.
There always has been evidence of media bias against obscure or non-conventional games. In fact, that is why I believe many are shocked that Scribblenauts has taken down huge awards from many sites. First of all, it's on a platform that has many a great game but never gets taken as seriously for them as the big brother consoles and also, it's not your typical big budget high flash summer blockbuster.
A game is a game though, they should all be taken seriously if the quality is there and while I don't believe this necessarily is what I call a Game of the Year candidate, it surely looks more fun to me than many of the derivative excellently resourced and implemented high profile titles and shouldn't be treated like the ugly stepchild.
It's a game. It looks like great fun. Just like the others. It should be taken seriously. Just like the others.
Owning the game system you are biased against in the most contrived and what you internet people love to call "butthurt" ways doesn't automatically make you fair and absolve you of the clear agenda you have.
Neither does calling games(and prematurely I may say) like Mario Galaxy "best game of all time". It is one of the most fun games of all time I believe but you really made that conclusion awfully early. I am not questioning that in regards to all that shit I just typed though, you may like it that much, just found it interesting.
Has Nintendo said why they haven't made this game online?????
Perhaps they were afraid the game would sell TOO well and put to shame their other titles in that way.
I thought the sequel being online was a no brainer but then again, when has Nintendo ever gone the sensical route???
I can't believe I went from digging the visual style in Wii Sports somewhat to genuinely finding Wii Sports Resort and the Mii universe beautiful. It's so simple, but the attention to detail is everywhere, not to mention the technical vistas here and there that so few Wii games seem to use, including Nintendo's.
For instance, I don't know if that cycling game will be any fun, but watching Gamespot's latest video, I can't help but think it looks great and might feel great. The part on the bridge with the view on the whole island is stunning.
Same for the wakeboarding game: it looks like one of the weaker games in the package, but it seems like the developer really nailed the part where you jump from the wave. It really feels like your character is using the physics of the water to jump off the wave.
The whole game has a really nice, refreshing atmosphere to it. Can't wait.
For instance, I don't know if that cycling game will be any fun, but watching Gamespot's latest video, I can't help but think it looks great and might feel great. The part on the bridge with the view on the whole island is stunning.
Same for the wakeboarding game: it looks like one of the weaker games in the package, but it seems like the developer really nailed the part where you jump from the wave. It really feels like your character is using the physics of the water to jump off the wave.
The whole game has a really nice, refreshing atmosphere to it. Can't wait.
Jme
Member
BikoBiko said:Why are there no videos of frisbee golf or that plane vs. mode
Here's a video (despite URL this is from 1up)
http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid22881388001?bctid=26867454001
It looks like he's shooting fireworks?
I really can't wait for this.
Wii Sports genuinely took me by surprise, and was the best party game in years and years. Both socially and playability-wise. A rare genuine killer-app.
Considering how it was obviously a learning-curve and relatively rushed (even the US launch version was missing bits of polish the UK one had), I'm looking forward to seeing the full polished version of the concept with this. Nintendo do that so well given the time.
And there aren't people seriously complaining about no online are there?! With Wii Sports?! It stands for everything online games aren't. We need more local social-based multiplayer games, not less. That social aspect of gaming can never be replicated online. The game is about having fun, online would simply shift the emphasis to competitiveness. And beating your mate online will never compare to beating him in the same room.
The old 4-player splitscreen days, Bomberman, the fighting game era, those days were great. I made Worms to be exactly this, a social multiplayer game and get people taking the piss out of each other, having a laugh etc. As well as have enough depth to learn, master, ensure the game didn't become repetitive. Wii Sports brought those days back for basically my whole group of friends again. Many of whom have given up on games.
I have huge respect for the game, and roll-on Wii Sports Resort.
Wii Sports genuinely took me by surprise, and was the best party game in years and years. Both socially and playability-wise. A rare genuine killer-app.
Considering how it was obviously a learning-curve and relatively rushed (even the US launch version was missing bits of polish the UK one had), I'm looking forward to seeing the full polished version of the concept with this. Nintendo do that so well given the time.
And there aren't people seriously complaining about no online are there?! With Wii Sports?! It stands for everything online games aren't. We need more local social-based multiplayer games, not less. That social aspect of gaming can never be replicated online. The game is about having fun, online would simply shift the emphasis to competitiveness. And beating your mate online will never compare to beating him in the same room.
The old 4-player splitscreen days, Bomberman, the fighting game era, those days were great. I made Worms to be exactly this, a social multiplayer game and get people taking the piss out of each other, having a laugh etc. As well as have enough depth to learn, master, ensure the game didn't become repetitive. Wii Sports brought those days back for basically my whole group of friends again. Many of whom have given up on games.
I have huge respect for the game, and roll-on Wii Sports Resort.
Honestly, Wii Sports Resort was one of the most enjoyable demos I played at E3. I can already see my family really getting into the 3 point contests and archery in a big way. We played the first Wii Sports plenty, but that package wasn't nearly as large or as balanced as this one.
The game should be a huge winner for Nintendo.
The game should be a huge winner for Nintendo.
666 said:
Yeah Wii Sports really loses nothing by not being online, it's just not that sort of game. It's strength is in the interaction you have with the people you are playing it with. It's a totally social game.
And I'd rather Nintendo polish that up, and flesh the game out, to the Nth degree, than waste time trying to implement+test netcode for a whole range of different game types.
Nothing to stop other companies doing it with their games in the future, which would most likely have a different angle/concept to Wii Sports anyway, but I want an Uber Wii Sports. Let Nintendo do what Nintendo do best.
Happened to me too and to be honest it's one of the reasons I'm not jumping in with Resorts day one, as fun as it looks.DECK'ARD said:
The original Wii Sports was really, really fun for party time. The fact that I'd have to buy more than one M+ to fully have the only experience that matters to me in Wii Sports (local mulitplayer) makes me back off for now. I absolutely can't justify buying a peripheral (nevermind more than one) for a single game so I'm playing the waiting game to see how/if M+ will be adopted in the future in a meaningful way with games that appeal to me like WSR does.
Please don't shoot me, it's just my personal stance. Just wanted to throw my two cents since there are people wondering why there's not much hype, maybe there are more that feel like I do.