WonkyPanda
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I have no idea how famitsu would get DD sales.
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Wii U Japanese Launch: 308,570 systems sold, Mario leads with 170,563 copies
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I have no idea how famitsu would get DD sales.
The assumption is wrong because MH3G HD does not have digital version (yet).
DaSorcerer7
Member
Thread title amendment due to confirmed numbers by a more established source, perhaps?
Well it was a assumption on my part. I wish Nintendo would release those numbers. Maybe in their end of the year financial report.
walking fiend
Member
I believe Famituse includes game bundles, right? So we have:
at most 78,461 Deluxe NL bundles sold.
at most 110,149 MH3G HD Ver. bundles sold.
at least 119,960 basic model sold
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at most 78,461 Deluxe NL bundles sold.
at most 110,149 MH3G HD Ver. bundles sold.
at least 119,960 basic model sold
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In software? No.
walking fiend
Member
Thanks! So in fact both NL and MH may have sold more than NSMB?
I think referring only to console data from Famitsu, at the time.
Famitsu includes game bundles, but Nintendo Land it's not bundled with hardware in Japan.
A) MonHun doesn't have a digital version yet
B) At least with 3DS sales the discrepency between Media Create and Famitsu is that Famitsu also tracks Download CARDS, while Media Create doesn't. I don't know if download cards are available for the WiiU yet (I think they are but not sure.) Neither tracker tracks downloads made from the store without the pre-paid cards though.
walking fiend
Member
I see, really interesting; so it has an attach ratio of 25% despite not being bundled; it's lower than what I expected [~50%]
Smiles and Cries
Member
I don't even understand how the first two days of sales in Japan can tell you so much when you compare it to all other console first week sales the numbers are all over the place. Some go on to be huge successes while others limp to an early death.
What makes the Wii U sales such a sign of Doom?
StreetsAhead
Member
NL is not bundled in Japan.
I do believe Famitsu counts download cards, though, but not games purchased directly from the shop.
For those wondering these are the only dated titles for Japan:
Dec 20th
COD:BLOPS 2 (No download version)
Simple Series for Wii U Vol. 1 (Download version too)
Sports Connection
January 31st
Fist of the North Star: Ken's Rage
Bring on that end of year Nintendo Direct!! Even 3DS has nothing dated for January, yet.
Hmm, I was wondering if Nintendo would feel a need to do a momentum-boosting Direct just before Christmas or New Year to boost maintain holiday sales.
No? Gamekult had early famitsu numbers.
LiveFromKyoto
Member
There are no bundles in Japan. Nintendo Land was sold separately.
I know that but famitsu and every japanese tracker counts bundles at sw.
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
There are, for Monster Hunter.
Sub zero, only because of more weeks in December. I can't imagine what calculations you do in your mind to come to that 40% percentage.
If we followed your anecdotal Wii U had a launch with zero hype, that no one was excited for it instead of Vita that people lined for hours. In the end they sold the same at first 2 days.
Wow, better than what Gamekult said.
This is the main difference between Vita's launch and Wii U's launch.
Vita had a very good launch hardware wise ( 325k), but the main titles didn't do so much ( Minna no Golf 6, the best selling one, sold 51k ). This was a rather clear sign of how people wasn't so interested in the games released for it at launch, and a sort of anticipation of the big slowdown the console witnessed in the following weeks.
Wii U sold almost the same amount of hardware, but its top titles destroy Vita's titles: both Mario and MH are well over 100k ( Mario sold as well as Wii Sport at Wii launch; MH sold almost as well as Zelda...and as well as Layton when 3DS launched). And even Nintendo Land, with 80k sold, can't be considered a bad result at all. This means people is actually interested in (part of) initial software offering, and this is the best sign possible for the next future: Wii U won't collapse like Vita, and I'd say it could have a pretty good Holiday in Japan.
Every one of these launches had its problems, 3DS and PSV initial sales didn't have positive acceptance from media and market (following weeks confirmed them), Twilight Princess slow start lead many to believe that Nintendo will have problem with core titles and average sellers (something that happened in the end), PS3 launch was a disaster, DS and PSP had solid but not spectacular launches (still better than 3DS and PSV).
Wii U sw sales like Wii are concentrated around 3 titles and then the chaos. One other factor that isn't visible here is sellthrough. I'm not in front of the database now but DS, PSP, PS3, WII, 3DS, PSV had a sellthrough 40-50% for most of their titles even the low sellers. Except for low sales outside top 3 Wii U faces big unsold amounts of software.
From a point the existence of system sellers means there won't be sharp drop at hardware sales but for titles with higher quality and budget you would expect better results, at least companies and retailers did.
The Hermit
Member
I wonder how much impact DD affect the retail titles, especially when they are cheaper through eShop.
MaxwellGT2000
Member
Me when I see some of these replies
Honestly though, solid launch, it launched worldwide pretty quickly, seems to me they made all the supply they could and they launched it in markets biggest to smallest with appropriate level of consoles and from here want a consistent flow of sales, I know locally Deluxe systems are becoming harder to find with only about 4 left in the city, basics being a bit easier but will likely deplete once those Deluxe systems go.
Honestly I can't see the Wii U being as easy to produce as the Wii was and that had a number of issues that kept it from keeping up, should be easy couple million units sold by the end of Dec and their goal of 5.5m world wide by the end of the first quarter is doable as long as the software flows.
Honestly though, solid launch, it launched worldwide pretty quickly, seems to me they made all the supply they could and they launched it in markets biggest to smallest with appropriate level of consoles and from here want a consistent flow of sales, I know locally Deluxe systems are becoming harder to find with only about 4 left in the city, basics being a bit easier but will likely deplete once those Deluxe systems go.
Honestly I can't see the Wii U being as easy to produce as the Wii was and that had a number of issues that kept it from keeping up, should be easy couple million units sold by the end of Dec and their goal of 5.5m world wide by the end of the first quarter is doable as long as the software flows.
It's not like those third party games are worth buying (in the japanese market) anyways. When real contenders show up that will be more telling. By no means am i trying to say software is not lacklustre though.
No, they don't.
Did you give your account to another? They do, get over it.
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
If Famitsu didn't count Monster Hunter bundles for Wii U (do they count hardware bundles? As far as I remember, they did count them for 3DS, didn't they?), this could well be up there with Mario - which I'd consider rather surprising.
Media Create does, Famitsu doesn't.
So much misinformation because someone suddenly decided to play games.
And you continue with your ignorance. I'm bad but is it my fault?
I'll take Famitsu's word over yours. You can try and verify with your figures, if you are so inclined.
I give up, I don't know what else to say. Middle age crisis?
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
I can't read japanese, so usually I just believe what you or Jonnyram say - with my last information being that they do count bundles. Now I can just talk about the two possible worlds we might live in. In one world, Monster Hunter seems surprisingly high, in the other world, everything seems alright. At the very least Mario sales seem nice in either world
.Very good debut for Wii U both HW and SW wise.
Let's see if it will hold or drop.
SW wise I can't understand how people could expect to see something else selling significantly with Mario, MH and Land at launch. Probably just to start the usual "nintendothirdipartiesdontsell" meme..?
The number of software is ok compared to the install base, and with three big titles don't surprise me that the vast majority of peolpe bought...exactly those games.
Let's see if it will hold or drop.
SW wise I can't understand how people could expect to see something else selling significantly with Mario, MH and Land at launch. Probably just to start the usual "nintendothirdipartiesdontsell" meme..?
The number of software is ok compared to the install base, and with three big titles don't surprise me that the vast majority of peolpe bought...exactly those games.
The Hermit
Member
Sales age fight, yeah!
Jonnyram is so strange these days.
I can't read japanese, so usually I just believe what you or Jonnyram say - with my last information being that they do count bundles. Now I can just talk about the two possible worlds we might live in. In one world, Monster Hunter seems surprisingly high, in the other world, everything seems alright. At the very least Mario sales seem nice in either world
I can't read Japanese as well as Jonnyram either, but Famitsu includes bundled software every time and I don't see any note in the article saying bundled software is not included. I don't know what "Famitsu's word" is. Maybe he has a subscription and is looking at a report that is not the website article.
DCharlie
And even i am moderately surprised
I asked Yoshi Mills at Famitsu - apparently - they do not, but Yoshi is double checking for me
They requested sales figure providers to not include some time ago (apparently) . You can believe that if you want, you can check my twitter feed where you can see the first few exchanges with Yoshi.
Not concrete admittedly but curious to know what the deal is. End of the day it's retailers sending in figures under instruction, so god only knows.
???
http://www.famitsu.com/news/201212/05025460.html
Would be odd to mention both SKUs but only count one.
Either way, the ultimate proof that Famitsu does count bundles for software lies with Wii Sports Resort.
polyh3dron
Banned
Monster Hunter at launch will do wonders for Wii U in Japan.
metalslimer
Member
Well this is a first....
Is this supposed to be sarcasm? Because it has a severe ignorance to call its sales bad.