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Ushojax said:This shit goes on with every console. Early kits and development software are almost always cobbled together pieces of crap that improve with time.
This.
Ushojax said:This shit goes on with every console. Early kits and development software are almost always cobbled together pieces of crap that improve with time.
Um...didn't Vigil end up getting the streaming to the controller to work...in a very short space of time?
StevieP said:10 minutes.
Nobody's asking them to outright lie. Vigil didn't have to say that it was easy to develop for, so there's no reason to just lie about it.JABEE said:Maybe what you've heard is crap? Maybe this is crap? Who knows? These Nintendo threads of late remind me of the PS3 slim threads of a few years ago. Everyone always reacts with insane skepticism, but then it ends up being true. It seems like every post is a preemptive defense or discrediting claim about the source of an article. Does anyone expect people who are under NDA or reliant on Nintendo's support to openly criticize a console for which they are working to develop games on?
saichi said:how many systems is Nintendo going to cancel? Yesterday they were gonna cancel 3DS and launch a new device that downplays the 3D. Today they are cancelling Wii U.
long live the DS and the Wii!
That did happen but after third parties were pretty vocal about the decision they decided to keep the RAM.test_account said:Wasnt it 01net who said that the PS Vita had it's RAM reduced 50%? That didnt happen. Have 01net a history of being right?
That is new to me, do you have any source to this?[Nintex] said:That did happen but after third parties were pretty vocal about the decision they decided to keep the RAM.
Shiggy said:Sounds credible, nothing that sounds absolutely unbelievable. Especially considering the same source is said to have given the Cafe information. Actually, they got the initial releasedate plans right and the issues with current dev kits are obvious, the hardware is just not ready.
Wasnt it 01net who said that the PS Vita had it's RAM reduced 50%? That didnt happen. Have 01net a history of being right?
[Nintex] said:That did happen but after third parties were pretty vocal about the decision they decided to keep the RAM.
ii Stryker said:Ninty skimping on tech in favor of functionality at a profit.
And this surprises people?
There was someone on GAF with a good track record who said it, picked up some other chatter about this as well but the best source is probably the developer who pretty much confirmed it:test_account said:That is new to me, do you have any source to this?
For their part, Sony said it didn't happen.[Nintex] said:That did happen but after third parties were pretty vocal about the decision they decided to keep the RAM.
[Nintex] said:There was someone on GAF with a good track record who said it, picked up some other chatter about this as well but the best source is probably the developer who pretty much confirmed it:
http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/dev-confirms-ps-vita-ram-cut-claims/082514
Depends on how you look at it:Nuclear Muffin said:That is not proof of any kind. All that says is that the RAM was cut, but the final hardware still has 512MB/128MB VRAM.
If that's the best you can do, you may as well give up now.
I didn't know 10x 32MB equals 512+128Remember the PSP had 32 MB of RAM, we have about ten times that now, he claimed.
Why would he talk about constraints if there was no cut?Asked if the alleged RAM cut will affect Novaramas own projects, Sánchez-Crespo said:
no that wont affect us. Its actually good for developers to work under constraint. Generally for Vita, we still have a whole lot of headroom in terms of GPU power, CPU power and indeed RAM.
They need new types of Pikmin:BGBW said:They just need to grow a few more Pikmin.
[Nintex] said:Depends on how you look at it:
I didn't know 10x 32MB equals 512+128
'about 10x' 32 MB would put it at 320MB or maybe 256 MB+128 MB VRAM
Why would he talk about constraints if there was no cut?
So I'm pretty certain that at some point Sony had plans to cut the RAM but decided not to do it. A lot can change when systems are in development. Maybe they tested to see how the system would perform without as much RAM.
DXB-KNIGHT said:They need new types of Pikmin:
HD Pikmins
Online Pikmins
Wireless Pikmins
Thanks for the link. I guess this is based on the saying of "Remember the PSP had 32 MG of RAM, we have about ten times that now". Someone here at NeoGAF said that he know this developer guy from Novarama, and he said that this was more about general speak.[Nintex] said:There was someone on GAF with a good track record who said it, picked up some other chatter about this as well but the best source is probably the developer who pretty much confirmed it:
http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/dev-confirms-ps-vita-ram-cut-claims/082514
I didn't believe them on Vita and they were indeed the first to break the news on the specs on that and I didn't believe them on the Wii U either. Both times I was wrong and they were right on the money. So for now I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt and none of their claims are crazy. The 2nd analog thing... maybe, but other than that I can see a 3DS redesign and I can see development problems with the Wii U. After all that happens with every system. As far as this goes I'm more interested in the management and software development bit.Nuclear Muffin said:I thought the same thing myself, but the hardware has not been cut.
There's no way that they could show off a game like Uncharted Golden Abyss running with 512MB of RAM and then on 256MB of RAM with no graphical downgrade. That is not possible at all.
I was thinking that it could be that the OS takes up 256MB of RAM out of the 512MB total (thus explaining the "cut") but that's not what 01 Net's report said.
01 Net were wrong, plain and simple. They specifically mentioned a hardware cut in RAM, that clearly did not happen.
If you are going to blindly believe what they say after that and this unbelievably contrived 3DS rumour, then you are dumber than I thought (or you are purely trolling)
Ok um going to need a source on this or call bull shit.[Nintex] said:That did happen but after third parties were pretty vocal about the decision they decided to keep the RAM.
If you read the thread you can see nuclear muffin and I had a discussion on that subject just now.googleplex said:Ok um going to need a source on this or call bull shit.
[Nintex] said:If you read the thread you can see nuclear muffin and I had a discussion on that subject just now.
wrowa said:No. Their track-record is very good, and the site is not known for random rumors. Sure, it might be possible that the developers told them bullshit, but it's highly probable that their sources told them exactly what they reported. They aren't making shit up.
No, not really. No one in his sane mind in the industry is going to publically critize a new(ly announced) console. Especially not the current problems of the hardware. That's suicide -- and that not only because the people who have put their hands on the console had to sign strict NDAs.
[Nintex] said:I didn't believe them on Vita and they were indeed the first to break the news on the specs on that and I didn't believe them on the Wii U either. Both times I was wrong and they were right on the money. So for now I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt and none of their claims are crazy. The 2nd analog thing... maybe, but other than that I can see a 3DS redesign and I can see development problems with the Wii U. After all that happens with every system. As far as this goes I'm more interested in the management and software development bit.
Registering NINTENDOIZDOOMD.com as we speak.Dambrosi said:So, is this whole NINTENDOIZDOOMD thing going to continue all week, or are we all going to collectively learn never to listen to this shit website ever again?
Nuclear Muffin said:Surfergirl got a good few things right. Doesn't mean that they were a credible source (since they also got plenty of things wrong)
Ever had the thought that it could be someone from Sony posing as a disgruntled Nintendo employee? (given their history of sourcing information from Sony, that is a very distinct possibility)
This latest Wii U rumour is not only non specific and vague, it also directly contradicts what we already know about the hardware from the E3 playable demonstrations in that at least one tablet works perfectly (as in absolutely ZERO perceivable lag) when streaming.
And yet you continue to consider 01 Net a reliable source?
Like I said a lot can change in development, I don't know how long they've been sitting on this info either.Nuclear Muffin said:This latest Wii U rumour is not only non specific and vague, it also directly contradicts what we already know about the hardware from the E3 playable demonstrations in that at least one tablet works perfectly when streaming.
And yet you continue to consider 01 Net a reliable source?
Dabanton said:To be honest if the outraged Nintendo fans kept it moving without posting, half these threads wouldn't take off.
No good moaning about "carnivals of stupid" when you're also contributing to it.
wrowa said:No. Their track-record is very good, and the site is not known for random rumors. Sure, it might be possible that the developers told them bullshit, but it's highly probable that their sources told them exactly what they reported. They aren't making shit up.
No, not really. No one in his sane mind in the industry is going to publically critize a new(ly announced) console. Especially not the current problems of the hardware. That's suicide -- and that not only because the people who have put their hands on the console had to sign strict NDAs.
firelink said:Except people have done it before - even a few about the Wii U.
Err, the underpowered components are precisely WHY you won't be getting more than 1 controller. I don't think the hardware is strong enough to drive an external display and more than one controller at the same time.VGChampion said:I'll take underpowered and cheap components if it gets me more than one of these controllers per system. It's still my biggest worry about this.
Xbox 360 was a mess before it came out. At E3 2005 just months before shipping it was nothing more but a couple of Macs strapped together. The PS3 had its fair share of issues as well, like removing the second cell and adding in a Nvidia chip for the graphics as well as removing a whole bunch of USB/Video etc. ports(that was fun). Not to mention reports that Sony would drop Blu-Ray because they had production issues with that. As it turned out they did indeed suffered from production issues with the Blu-Ray drives early on.M.I.S. said:This. Was it this bad at the pre-launch phase of Wii, 360, PS3?
If a rumour offends individuals in some way surely the sensible thing to do is simply ignore the thread? (I mean, this is a gaming forum after all isn't it?).
Having said that I don't know which is worse, rumours such as this or Nintendo aficionados having a nervous breakdown. )
Yeah, right. The leak of the Vita specs didn't happen. And that they got the Wii U controller + devkit hardware right, who cares, right? As soon as they say something unfavorable they have to be dumbasses!Nuclear Muffin said:No it didn't happen. They've been (partially right) once and only once.
I went back to check on the Wii U rumors and Game Informer first ran the story on April 14th saying Nintendo was going to unveil an HD system at E3. 01net.com followed the day after and added that Nintendo would use a tablet like device as a controller along with an IBM CPU and likely a R700 family GPU. They had some other nuggets as well.wrowa said:Yeah, right. The leak of the Vita specs didn't happen. And that they got the Wii U controller + devkit hardware right, who cares, right? As soon as they say something unfavorable they have to be dumbasses!
01 is also a publisher of French print-magazines, so making shit up is nothing they gain from. To the contrary, it would harm the reputation of their magazines. But who cares right?
Zoramon089 said:Can we rename this topic "GAF Gets Stupid: Part II"?
For those wondering Part I was E3 post Wii U reveal
Shiggy said:Yeah, but renaming this topic only became necessary when you posted in here.
Lol, maybe if his post made ANY senseInfinite Justice said:shots fired?