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[ClovingWestbrook]

You know, considering this is already the second Wii U Spectulation Thread, I sometimes wonder how come it's got so many views and even posts. Clearly people must be immensly interested in Nintendo's next big thing as well as Nintendo themselves. It's gotta be FUN for you all or even an obsession of some sort, because you - fuck, me included - can't stop thinking about the damn thing. As soon as new information leaks, people jump on it like vultures on dead meat. The fact that Nintendo knows how to keep it's secrets makes it even more exciting and fun.

Nintendo must be the best thing ever, because they know how to produce enjoyment. Even just the thinking/the speculation about the Wii U let's people have fun - that's how genius they are. Nintendo's partly made out of PURE MAGIC it seems, don't you see? They know what you want, want makes you happy, even before you do. They could provide you with the details, but they don't want to. They just know how much fun it is to speculate about them.

They even have Ninjas, how is that?

Honestly, I don't think it will be any different once the next Xbox and PS4 are announced. People are just very interested in where we're going technologically in this industry. I'm a huge Nintendo fan but I plan on being active in the speculation thread for the other two consoles.

 

[Log4Girlz]

Xbox 360 is roughly 20 times the power of the Wii

 

[royalan]

I wonder what the maximum tolerable price for this thing will be. I'm thinking $399.

If it's a repackaged 360...$200 if they want to be competitive with PS360. $250 with a killer launch lineup tops.

If it's a step up like initially believed...$350 - $379.

 

[AceBandage]

12*1.27*6/18=5.08

Interesting theory...
It'll definitely fall between 4 and 6, though.

 

[Wolfie5]

Back to pricing, awesome! Wait, let me just copy & paste my old post...

" I am thinking $349 with a maybe on $399. I am thinking they are going to include Wiimote, Wii U tablet and a demo game. "

 

[Log4Girlz]

If it's a repackaged 360...$200 if they want to be competitive with PS360. $250 with a killer launch lineup tops.

If it's a step up like initially believed...$350 - $379.

Dude, a repackaged gamecube was sold for $250.

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

I don't think there is room in the market anymore for expensive products. If they launch above 349 I'm gonna wait it out, watch not many people buy it, watch nintendo panic and drop the price by a lot, and then I'll get it.

Precedence has been set. And with that said, I think 349 is kind of pushing it as well.

 

[AceBandage]

So, with Nintendo sending out messages via Swap Note and all, I really hope they preload such a software on the Wii U.
Such amazing marketing potential.

 

[royalan]

Dude, a repackaged gamecube was sold for $250.

Which was cheap compared to what its launchmates were priced at.

 

[LegendofJoe]

399 is a bust for me.

299 is a definite, 249 is a wet dream, 349 is what I expect, and that's doable IF the launch and launch window are looking GREAT.

This sounds about right. I'd pay 399 though if Nintendo brings the heat and releases something that is a nice upgrade from the 360/ps3.

 

[ShockingAlberto]

I hope they change the name to something that makes everyone even madder

Like Wiii

 

[AceBandage]

I hope they change the name to something that makes everyone even madder

Like Wiii

Just call it Wu.
And the controller the Tang.

 

[Fjolle]

Xbox 360 is roughly 20 times the power of the Wii

Actually it started by being about 11 times more power(ful?), but with the corona it's only ~6 times.

 

[royalan]

I hope they change the name to something that makes everyone even madder

Like Wiii

Wii All

 

[Log4Girlz]

Which was cheap compared to what its launchmates were priced at.

Wii U isn't competing with the current HD twins. It will be priced at $300 minimum regardless of its power.

 

[Gahiggidy]

The luanch xbox 360 had a calculated volume of 6,616,926 square millimeters, but did anyone ever do a water displacement test? By wrapping it in cellophane? That 'inhale' shape prolly added alot.

 

[Hoo-doo]

Just call it Wu.
And the controller the Tang.

I'd buy ten.

 

[Roo]

Back to pricing, awesome! Wait, let me just copy & paste my old post...

" I am thinking $349 with a maybe on $399. I am thinking they are going to include Wiimote, Wii U tablet and a demo game. "

Don't forget the Nunchuk.
If Nintendo still wants third party support for wiimote and nunckuk they better
put them in the box.
Aren't those cheap to make now?
why not? =/

 

[royalan]

Wii U isn't competing with the current HD twins. It will be priced at $300 minimum regardless of its power.

It will be if it's not offering a significant upgrade over the 360 (let alone the PS3).

If what Arkam suggested is true, I think a $300 launch price would be suicide.

 

[Fourth Storm]

Before the 3DS fiasco, I believe Nintendo were considering a $349-$399 price range. Now, I believe the range is $299-$349. They need to make the most of their rapidly shrinking head start and get the unit into as many homes as possible. They don't want to have to slash the price early on either. I believe Iwata has warned investors not to expect an immediate return to profitability this year, which would indicate selling the console at a loss.

Remember this: no matter how powerful the system is, consumers have a certain expectation as to how much a Nintendo console should cost. Nintendo tried changing this expectation with a $250 3DS, but then quickly brought the price back into familiar territory at $170. Launching at over $299 has to scare them shitless. I think it's where they'll eventually price it. Maybe a few free downloads off the estore to get people exploring the Nintendo Network. Wii Sports can stand on its own now, and is a system seller even if not packed in.

 

[Plinko]

If it's a reconstituted 360 I wouldn't pay more than $199 for it. That would be ridiculous.

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

The tough question is whether or not they risk it a medium-high price like 349 and possibly kill momentum before it even comes out, or if they play it safe and launch it at 299 (or magically less, less would be at a loss though). High risk high reward at 349+.

 

[Rösti]

If it's a reconstituted 360 I wouldn't pay more than $199 for it. That would be ridiculous.

Xbox 360 4GB Console currently has an MSRP of $199.99. The SKU Xbox 360 4GB Console with Kinect has an MSRP of $299.99. If Wii U does not come with a 4GB hard disk drive the price can probably be lowered a $20 or so, from $299.99.

 

[AceBandage]

They'll likely price it near a break even point.

 

[Cheesecakebobby]

If it's less powerful than a 360 they should be paying US. Or it should come with a Reggie body pillow, I'd take that offer.

 

[royalan]

Xbox 360 4GB Console currently has an MSRP of $199.99. The SKU Xbox 360 4GB Console with Kinect has an MSRP of $299.99. If Wii U does not come with a 4GB hard disk drive the price can probably be lowered a $20 or so, from $299.99.

Let's not count out the very likely price cut/bundles the 360's going to get by this holiday season. You can almost count on it...

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

Let's not count out the very likely price cut/bundles the 360's going to get by this holiday season. You can almost count on it...

that's also an issue, Sony and MS will definitely drop the price on their units to counter the WiiU launch.

 

[antonz]

Let's not count out the very likely price cut/bundles the 360's going to get by this holiday season. You can almost count on it...

Yep and if Nintendo skimps I could see Microsoft getting very aggresive in advertising. We offer everything the Wii U does for half the price.

 

[IceDoesntHelp]

If it's less powerful than a 360 they should be paying US. Or it should come with a Reggie body pillow, I'd take that offer.

If a shiny chin is not included, no deal.

 

[Hoo-doo]

Yep and if Nintendo skimps I could see Microsoft getting very aggresive in advertising. We offer everything the Wii U does for half the price.

Where do they get their tablet controllers? Windows Phones?

 

[AceBandage]

If a shiny chin is not included, no deal.

You make the chin shiny yourself.
Wink Wink

 

[antonz]

Where do they get their tablet controllers? Windows Phones?

Nintendo is going to have one hell of a time convincing people a tablet is worth paying double if thats all they have to distinguish themselves/

 

[Log4Girlz]

It will be if it's not offering a significant upgrade over the 360 (let alone the PS3).

If what Arkam suggested is true, I think a $300 launch price would be suicide.

No it wouldn't. People are going to eat up the tablet controller at $300.

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

360s when they are on sale at around christmas time and whatnot can be found as low as 149.99, it's pretty ridiculous. Nintendo will have to go balls out to convince people, and they'll have to ACE the marketing.

 

[Cheesecakebobby]

If a shiny chin is not included, no deal.

Of course it will be included. My body pillow is Reggie

 

[Father_Brain]

No it wouldn't. People are going to eat up the tablet controller at $300.

Will they? It really depends on what software Nintendo reveals at E3, but nothing they showed last year convinced me that the tablet has the same intuitive appeal to casuals as the Wii Remote or Kinect.

 

[IceDoesntHelp]

You make the chin shiny yourself.
Wink Wink

D:

D:

 

[Delio]

I'm kinda confused is the Wii U as powerful as a 360 now or not? Reading the last few pages people don't seem sure.

 

[AceBandage]

I'm kinda confused is the Wii U as powerful as a 360 now or not? Reading the last few pages people don't seem sure.

It is and always has been more powerful.

 

[IceDoesntHelp]

It is and always has been more powerful.

Yeah, obviously Arkam works for a company that doesn't know how2graphic

 

[royalan]

No it wouldn't. People are going to eat up the tablet controller at $300.

You could end up being right, but I just don't see the tablet controller being a wiimote/kinect level game changer. The tech world is flooded with tablet devices right now, and all the ones that aren't named iPad/Kindle Fire/Nook aren't setting the world on fire with their sales. We're getting to the point of market saturation where just slapping a touch screen on something isn't going to get people running.

 

[AzaK]

WiiArilouLalee'lay or bust.

My tongue just fell off.

 

[Delio]

It is and always has been more powerful.

Okay I was confused about the repackaged 360 talk.

 

[Plinko]

Xbox 360 4GB Console currently has an MSRP of $199.99. The SKU Xbox 360 4GB Console with Kinect has an MSRP of $299.99. If Wii U does not come with a 4GB hard disk drive the price can probably be lowered a $20 or so, from $299.99.

Doesn't matter.

I still stand by my statement: If this thing is just a reconstituted 360 and Nintendo tries to put this at $250 or higher it's DOA.

 

[Hoo-doo]

It is and always has been more powerful.

You know, wanting it real bad, does not make it true.
Lower estimates say it's on par with the current gen. Who the fuck knows.

 

[Log4Girlz]

You could end up being right, but I just don't see the tablet controller being a wiimote/kinect level game changer. The tech world is flooded with tablet devices right now, and all the ones that aren't named iPad/Kindle Fire/Nook aren't setting the world on fire with their sales. We're getting to the point of market saturation where just slapping a touch screen on something isn't going to get people running.

I don't see any cell phones anymore which do not have some sort of screen, touch or not. I don't see any dumb phones burning up the charts and pulling their parent companies massive profit margins. Sometimes there is a paradigm shift where the future is obvious. I think a tablet controller could be a natural progression everyone must adopt or die.

 

[Rhod]

Nintendo is going to have one hell of a time convincing people a tablet is worth paying double if thats all they have to distinguish themselves/

You mean, if their own hardware/software combination is all they have to distinguish themselves? Like, say, why people buy Apple products at a significantly higher price than a competitor?

It is of course a difficult job to convince people of this. It requires a huge amount of skill and effort in the development of software and hardware, in unison.

I still stand by my statement: If this thing is just a reconstituted 360 and Nintendo tries to put this at $250 or higher it's DOA.

Well of course it would be. That would be ridiculous. But if its hardware is similar to a 360, yet its functionality is wildly different, then the value proposition is entirely different. If there are enough 'you can only do that on Nintendo' things, then people will buy it.

 

[AceBandage]

You know, wanting it real bad, does not make it true.
Lower estimates say it's on par with the current gen. Who the fuck knows.

Links to these statements from devs?
For every one dev that has said on par, we've had at least 5 say above.

 

[Grampa Simpson]

I would buy a Nintendo DreamBlaster almost any cost without any hesitation.

 

[cyberheater]

Links to these statements from devs?
For every one dev that has said on par, we've had at least 5 say above.

From every gaf member that's been verified by a mod who works for a video game company and have actually seen real WiiU dev kit and have said it's either slightly below or on par with current PS360 tech vs random non verified dev comments on the interweb.

I know which one I trust more.