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[Nibel]

What? I thought it looked fine. It doesn't need to be hyper-detailed, unless dudebros want to see all Link's "UBER HARDCORE BATTLESCARS".

I think the skin color doesn't fit him at all and that the lips look awkward, but I don't think too much about it since it's just a techdemo.

now the question is can they do UE4 at 1080p 60fps and streams 4 uPads at the same time in SD for $350-$399

1080p 60 FPS UE4 on Wii U?
Nope. I don't think we will see 60FPS UE4 on any platform other than the PC.

 

[Cookychan]

It's never going to be a matter of whether the console can do it or not. Very few devs are ever going to target 60fps

Is there a way they could've developed it to be above 30fps at all times to fit with streaming and take processing stuff away?

 

[Smiles and Cries]

1080p 60 FPS UE4 on Wii U?
Nope. I don't think we will see 60FPS UE4 on any platform other than the PC.

So you are saying you are willing to pay PC prices for my WiiU?

what is that $1,499-2,999?

 

[frostbyte]

And now the system can run UE4 wowzers

tbh, I think a good artstyle will trump whatever UE4 wowzer (eg. Samaritan) there is. UE games just look kind of meh to me, with obvious exceptions such as Mirror's Edge. This is just my opinion though.

 

[Übermatik]

now the question is can they do UE4 at 1080p 60fps and streams 4 uPads at the same time in SD for $350-$399

No, absolutely no.
We'll get 1080p 30fps max, with no streaming to Upad.

 

[Log4Girlz]

tbh, I think a good artstyle will trump whatever UE4 wowzer (eg. Samaritan) there is. UE games just look kind of meh to me, with obvious exceptions such as Mirror's Edge. This is just my opinion though.

I hope they make some retro looking games IMO. I love the style of Minecraft for instance.

 

[frostbyte]

No, absolutely no.
We'll get 1080p 30fps max, with no streaming to Upad.

You guys are way too optimistic. I think we'll get 720p 30fps+AA UE4 games, minimal streaming.

I hope they make some retro looking games IMO. I love the style of Minecraft for instance.

I want more delicious pixel art but the audience these days aren't really too hot on that anymore, especially on consoles.

 

[Nibel]

So you are saying you are willing to pay PC prices for my WiiU?

what is that $1,499-2,999?

I bought a new PC for 500€ - 16GB Ram, GTX 570 with 1024 Ram, Intel i5-2500K..

Good PC's don't cost as much as people think they do.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

No, absolutely no.
We'll get 1080p 30fps max, with no streaming to Upad.

u will eat croooowwwww

 

[HylianTom]

You guys are way too optimistic. I think we'll get 720p 30fps+AA UE4 games, minimal streaming.

Sounds about right. Pushin' fewer pixels..

 

[Smiles and Cries]

You guys are way too optimistic. I think we'll get 720p 30fps+AA UE4 games, minimal streaming.

crow dinner for u too man

 

[Spieler Eins]

if Wii U's games look anything like the Zelda demo or the flying bird thingy I'm perfectly fine then.
those two look already better than 98% of this-gen games.

(yea i know...."but it's a demo without AI, physics bla bla nadda nadda")

If they can manage to pull that off with their usually small loading times, I'd be fine too. It's not like Nintendos stylized games would benefit as much as realistic looking games from any bigger graphical bump. (How much better than Sonic Generations could Mario look really?) Not to mention that they also always know how to use their hardware in the most effective way.

 

[Cookychan]

I want more "hardcore" devs to approach odd artstyles like Paper Mario and Kirby's Epic Yarn.

 

[frostbyte]

crow dinner for u too man

I personally like chicken dinner more but if I have to.

I want more "hardcore" devs to approach odd artstyles like Paper Mario and Kirby's Epic Yarn.

Goddamn yes. Devs, please listen to Cookychan from now on.

realistically, only indie games and Nintendo will be willing to take such risks, bar the odd few devs.

 

[Log4Girlz]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1G6vo95BSjw&hd=1

I want destructible environments.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

tbh, I think a good artstyle will trump whatever UE4 wowzer (eg. Samaritan) there is. UE games just look kind of meh to me, with obvious exceptions such as Mirror's Edge. This is just my opinion though.

I'll take an HD Epic Yarn off any of those honestly

more clever stuff like that is glorious

 

[Nibel]

You guys are way too optimistic. I think we'll get 720p 30fps+AA UE4 games, minimal streaming.

Yup, this.

If UE4 comes to Wii U, it will look good on it. It will possibly look better on the uPad-screen.

 

[Übermatik]

You guys are way too optimistic. I think we'll get 720p 30fps+AA UE4 games, minimal streaming.

That's what the italics 'max' was for, only with further 'tweaking' that was mentioned will this be available, and that's with ultimate optimisation, when the devs know the workings inside out, and how to use the pad effectively.

u will eat croooowwwww

I sincerely hope I do, but, um, no

 

[Cookychan]

What if Mirror's Edge involved Mirrors and custom made backgrounds that you don't see but reflect on to these mirrors to make up the stage instead?


GODDAMNIT DEVS LISTEN TO ME

Or maybe an apocalyptic style game with environments made up of the elements, oh yeeeeeees.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

I sincerely hope I do, but, um, no

I'll get you some sauce just incase, Tabasco or A1?

 

[frostbyte]

Yup, this.

If UE4 comes to Wii U, it will look good on it. It will possibly look better on the uPad-screen.

Yep, pretty much free AA when viewed in such a small screen. Can't wait to play games in bed with that screen.

That's what the italics 'max' was for, only with further 'tweaking' that was mentioned will this be available, and that's with ultimate optimisation, when the devs know the workings inside out, and how to use the pad effectively.

If devs will be willing to learn the insides out that well, yeah maybe. I'll believe it when I see it.

 

[Nibel]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1G6vo95BSjw&hd=1

I want destructible environments.

That video is sexy.
Wonder if we will such a technology used for next gen projects.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

devs are lazy all our ports will look like 360 games except our UE4 games

 

[frostbyte]

devs are lazy all our ports will look like 360 games except our UE4 games

Stop being realistic, you're curdling the milk

Are you on the hype train or not?

 

[Spieler Eins]

I want more "hardcore" devs to approach odd artstyles like Paper Mario and Kirby's Epic Yarn.

Too bad it's all about pleasing the casuals with super generic and ridiculous ,,badass'' spacemarine and realistic warfare games nowadays. Only indies will go with a similar approach.
I just can't wait for Nintendos HD games to finally arrive.

 

[Log4Girlz]

That video is sexy.
Wonder if we will such a technology used for next gen projects.

Its Physx though

 

[Übermatik]

I'll get you some sauce just incase, Tabasco or A1?

Tabasco

 

[BowieZ]

Personally $399 is the sweet spot for me. I really don't want to spend more than that on a console and if it's higher, I'll just have to wait for the price drop while everyone's playing glorious Pikmin 3 in front of me

I suspect it'll be something like $279.99 including one Utab and Wii Remote Plus, and you can buy two additional Utabs at $89.99 each.

Advertised as up to three user-friendly lounge room tablets and a HD Nintendo console, all combined cheaper than a single iPad* with better, more fun and exclusive games^.

(*current generation model)
(^Mario, Pokemon, Zelda, Donkey Kong, Kirby, and Mario Kart)

 

[Smiles and Cries]

Stop being realistic, you're curdling the milk

Are you on the hype train or not?

I'm in the UE4 vip class car that's first class to u coach dwellers

 

[frostbyte]

I think people missed this so i'll ask again.

guys, what 3rd party games do you want to see the most on the Wii U? Mine's personally Dark Souls and Assassin's Creed. and one of them is already confirmed

 

[Cookychan]

I think people missed this so i'll ask again.

guys, what 3rd party games do you want to see the most on the Wii U? Mine's personally Dark Souls and Assassin's Creed. and one of them is already confirmed

POOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORTAL 3

 

[AniHawk]

I think people missed this so i'll ask again.

guys, what 3rd party games do you want to see the most on the Wii U? Mine's personally Dark Souls and Assassin's Creed. and one of them is already confirmed

something from the skies team. i don't like 40 hour rpgs on handhelds.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

I suspect it'll be something like $279.99 including one Utab and Wii Remote Plus, and you can buy two additional Utabs at $89.99 each.

Advertised as up to three user-friendly lounge room tablets and a HD Nintendo console, all combined cheaper than a single iPad* with better, more fun and exclusive games^.

(*current generation model)
(^Mario, Pokemon, Zelda, Donkey Kong, Kirby, and Mario Kart)

it will not be under $300 not gonna happen with a uPad packed in plus a Wiimote

 

[Nibel]

I think people missed this so i'll ask again.

guys, what 3rd party games do you want to see the most on the Wii U? Mine's personally Dark Souls and Assassin's Creed. and one of them is already confirmed

New IPs first and foremost - generation defining IPs.
Everything is multiplatform in the moment, so I'm not worried about most games.

Spoiler

SEGA Shenmue 3 in glorious HD

 

[DefectiveReject]

I think people missed this so i'll ask again.

guys, what 3rd party games do you want to see the most on the Wii U? Mine's personally Dark Souls and Assassin's Creed. and one of them is already confirmed

Little king story with touch controls
Something in the vain of crackdown

 

[Log4Girlz]

I think people missed this so i'll ask again.

guys, what 3rd party games do you want to see the most on the Wii U? Mine's personally Dark Souls and Assassin's Creed. and one of them is already confirmed

Dark Souls and I haven't even played that shit yet

Witcher 2

Skyrim

Monster Hunter 3 Tri HD

 

[Wiz]

I think people missed this so i'll ask again.

guys, what 3rd party games do you want to see the most on the Wii U? Mine's personally Dark Souls and Assassin's Creed. and one of them is already confirmed

Would love to see Fallout come to the Wii U. It could possibly be the best option for the series in the future. I think the Wii U Pad can help make things more convenient with all the menus too.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

I think people missed this so i'll ask again.

guys, what 3rd party games do you want to see the most on the Wii U? Mine's personally Dark Souls and Assassin's Creed. and one of them is already confirmed

I really want GTA V because I have been playing Vice City for the first time and love it

for my uPad I want things like FROM DUST and ANNO 2070 over AssCreed or CoD

I want good racing games

 

[HylianTom]

Some of mine are taken.. I want a really good, really long Tales game, much like Symphonia.

 

[Übermatik]

Guys, what if a Rockstar rep came on stage at E3 and said that GTAV will be a pre-competitor-release

Spoiler

for Durango

so the game will be on the system before any other console?

 

[Gravijah]

graces f dash upper

 

[Smiles and Cries]

Dark Souls and I haven't even played that shit yet

Witcher 2

Skyrim

Monster Hunter 3 Tri HD

woah none of these have I played would love to see those ported over...

Add SAINTS ROW the Third to that and I would have a nice collection going on my uPad

 

[Screenboy]

To clarify on what was said, it was more along the lines of Nintendo tweaked the Wii U to make sure it can run UE4.

which would explain the recent bump in specs... and apparently Nintendo is still tweaking the hardware. So it could get even better.

+50 pages

 

[Cookychan]

Ooh, I know a third party game; my Millennium Trilogy idea.
That SERIOUSLY needs to happen.

 

[le.phat]

Would love to see Fallout come to the Wii U. It could possibly be the best option for the series in the future. I think the Wii U Pad can help make things more convenient with all the menus too.

how is looking away from the tv to see your inventory anymore convenient then pressing start ?

 

[Smiles and Cries]

Guys, what if a Rockstar rep came on stage at E3 and said that GTAV will be a pre-competitor-release

Spoiler

for Durango

so the game will be on the system before any other console?

GTA V is this year Dungo is 2013

 

[Übermatik]

GTA V is this year Dungo is 2013

IT GOT DELAYED.

Spoiler

And 'Dungo' is totally a better name

 

[Smiles and Cries]

from Japan I want

GAL GUN
LOVE PLUS U
PANTSU PANTSU PANTSU

 

[Wolfie5]

I think people missed this so i'll ask again.

guys, what 3rd party games do you want to see the most on the Wii U? Mine's personally Dark Souls and Assassin's Creed. and one of them is already confirmed

Aliens: Colonial Marines, the next Batman game(hopefully there will be one), Beyond Good & Evil 2 and Diablo 3.

 

[BowieZ]

it will not be under $300 not gonna happen with a uPad packed in plus a Wiimote

To be competitive (against Apple, Sony and Microsoft) they need to undercut expectations, even to the point of making a slight loss on the system. The tech itself isn't really that expensive, but rather Nintendo has to offset all the R&D and the paradigm change from Standard Def to Hi Def (although have been doing this gradually for 5+ years now).

For example, they could probably make a tidy profit off $90 additional Utabs ($75 sale price?) which would be promoted like hell, to help cover some of the loss, and the rest would be covered by retail games, legacy Wii retail games, SLIGHTLY overpriced but quality eStore games and DLC.

Half the battle is a psychologically low price point (see Wii and 3DS), and anything they can do to get it below $300 (including below $299.99) they will surely do.

PS; additionally, Wii Remote Pluses by now would be cheap as chips for Ninty to manufacture.