my comment was regarding "never noticed the world outside nintendo". reggie is from the "outside-world" among some others.
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Wii U Thread - Now in HD!
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my comment was regarding "never noticed the world outside nintendo". reggie is from the "outside-world" among some others.
So, new version of Wwise was just released, and brings with it another round of rather substantial Wii U optimizations, increasing overall performance while reducing the memory footprint, and speeding up certain effects by up to 4.4x. Considering they touted slightly above 360 levels of performance several releases ago, almost all of which came with further optimizations, I'm really not sure what to make of the "weak CPU" rumors. They also gave a few performance figures (peak limiter: 0.2% CPU load, delay: 0.07% CPU load), though they're pretty useless as I don't have anything to compare them to.
Don't be fooled: He's in touch. He can always touch you.
I imagine at Ubi that because it takes 4 security doors to get to another room, to save the hassle when they want to share information with colleagues they just yell it out the window to the adjoining room, and pass it down the outside of the building like a giant game of Chinese whispers. This would explain all the leaks.
Spieler Eins
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I just don't know what you're looking for in the launch. Nintendo have the casual bases covered, trying to appeal to Nintendo fans with Mario & Pikmin (and Nintendoland), and then trying to attract 360PS3 gamers with ZombiU and the like.
It's clear we disagree, but I won't get into a heated debate with you as I've been banned for lessI think Nintendo have done pretty well, it's certainly better than the Wii launch.
As I'm also often stating, the launch itself might have good games (And don't forget that we do not even know what's coming at the actual launch yet... gotta prepare for delays until the end of this ,launch window'), the whole lack of any future proof is quite worrisome to me and hence I naturally look at the launch more skeptical. (Because it's simply all we've got for now) Perhaps Wii didn't have quite as much as the WiiU, but at least I didn't have to worry, since I knew that lots of quality stuff was on the horizon, within the first year even. To me, WiiU doesn't seem to have any ,,killer-app'' or true systemseller yet that would justify a 300$ machine or give me the excitement of a new gen, like the Wii did. But at the same time, there isn't anything on the horizon either. And seeing how this strategy even feels too extreme for modern Nintendo and more importantly - that this is the second ,,unveiling'' of the console already, I get the feeling that some teams are stuck in development hell and their efforts to get 3rd parties on board to perhaps make up for it have equally failed. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if this launch window would be stretched until next E3 (because that's what Nintendo does, show what they have ready until next years E3, sometimes with a few delays) and that wouldn't make the launch look so glorious anymore.
8 more days to get further confirmation on this :/ (I'd be the happiest of you if they actually had some crazy blowout planned, but sometimes a bad E3 is just a bad E3)
Fixed.
Also, you should check put Valve's leaked employee handbook*.
I found it but damn these slow ass university computers... I've read the first 10 pages though; this is insane. Is this real life? ;_;
ScreenSplitter
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I do agree that the time after the launch seems pretty empty... here's hoping for some amazing Nintendo Directs!
Dude you'll never get to work at Valve by goofing off in Uni time
KillerTravis
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Well the thing is they announced games that were really far from release. Paper Mario was shown at the first E3 3DS showing for example but it's releasing a couple of months from now. For Wii U they just announced games that are going to be available on the launch window but you can be sure they have a lot more games on development that are going to be shown in a timely manner unlike the 3DS were everything was blown on a single event and everyone was crazy to get those games as soon as possible which let to disappointment.
IceDoesntHelp
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Oh sweet, Wave Race was renewed...but that doesn't really mean much, considering Eternal Darkness :/
It gets better (worse). Prepare to feel inspired to work hard/become bitter and jealous.
Kacho
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Still makes me feel warm inside.
for you IceDoesntHelp:
also they tried to make ed, but it got cancelled because of sk. this situation seems unlikely to being repeated with wave race. so there is a chance
That's the million dollar question. It's pretty vague. Still, I believe those are the very first actual Wii U performance figures we've seen so far - now we need something to compare them to.
Criminal Upper
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You make jokes. But I expect every single Wii U review to be like this.
IceDoesntHelp
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You better be right about this! *shakes fist*
Criminal Upper
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TheNatural
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You're only as good as your source material.
All the guy is, is a marketing figurehead, that's it. NCL does whatever the hell they want to do, and Reggie puts it over like an unscrupulous boxing promoter.
Go back to the E3 debacle with Wii Music to see how that went over like a ton of lead. His interviews were like fingers on chalkboard. I remember one where he was like "what do you mean we don't have core games - I mean we have Animal Crossing here!"
Great, now i know what i want for my birthday.
ScreenSplitter
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Just because they both suck doesn't make Reggie any better. But you're right, he is just a mouthpiece, if an annoying slow one.
Mr. MondayNight
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Would love to see a list of thing you actually like because it surely would take less effort to read.
Jack Tretton
Valve is like the Google of the gaming industry. 5.0 is nice. I wonder if Valve HQ has jacuzzis and stuff
Fixed.
Also, you should check put Valve's leaked employee handbook*. It's like the greatest place on earth to work
*WARNING: May cause you to despise your current job.
I already despise my current job. Screw jacuzzis, I'd be happy to have specifications for a project instead of being handed a pile of steaming crap and told to finish it, except no one really knows what it's supposed to do to begin with.
snowdog1971
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Doesn't seem right to call those lovely bunnies cretins!!! :Oo
Ah. I feel your pain! Although my graphic design is freelance so I can just say 'no' if people piss me off
This is definitely an area where Nintendo could learn from Sony (IGN, get on the story, stat!). Sony seems to really embrace being a worldwide company. Hell, so does Square with Eidos. Nintendo meanwhile apparently still keeps Retro under its thumb, doesn't for some reason work closer with great studios like Monster Games and Next Level Games, and doesn't trust NoA further than Iwata can throw Reggie.
May the stars of the galaxy guide you in your quest wsippel...
...cause I'd be too paranoid to try it on my PC. xD
I can say that working as a language tester @ EA in Madrid in the summer for two months is nice. If you stay longer than two months then your paycheck is below average (LT average) I assume.
Foliorum Viridum
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I was just thinking earlier it's really weird going into a "next gen" console with expectations for a low price tag.
That was IdeaMan teasing before E3. I think he was referring to the TV button or the clicky sticks. But that's it. There won't be anymore stuff coming. From now on it's all software stuff.
ScreenSplitter
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So you haven't read the Sony review in that story, I take it
Maybe just choosing to ignore it?
There's just so many little things, as well as big, that they haven't discussed at all. I for one want to know what content we can actually stream to the Gamepad, and whether original Wii games will be included in this. Wii games would actually look super sharp on the smaller screen, would make them tonnes more playable!
Well there was such a big furore over big, big price tags last gen. Sony's arrogance of "you'll get another job" etc., and then Nintendo themselves got burned by the big 3DS price tag. I reckon they're scared to death of charging too much.
Mithos
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I'm confused, "audio things" didn't we want that running on the DSP instead of the CPU?
Ah. I feel your pain! Although my graphic design is freelance so I can just say 'no' if people piss me off
Sometimes I feel like I'm expected to build a house from a sketch on a napkin.
Foliorum Viridum
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Oh it definitely needs to be a lower price, especially since it's really only a half step up generationally in tech, but it's just a bit odd thinking about it costing around £250.
Leaves me more money for the other two I guess next year
Mihael Mello Keehl
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I still think NFC is a feature unknown still. We saw it in the Legends trailer but that was it. I want moar!
Pretty much what I was thinking. A lot can be done with software, though - looking forward to seeing more on the 13th.
Like I said before they did a couple of cool things with the 3DS (playcoins, mii plaza) and I'm interested to see what they come up with for the wii u.
I'd really like to see accomplishments tied to unlocking crap you can put on your mii. It'd make accomplishments worth a little more, let people play dress up, and it'd be a good way of showing off what you've accomplished. I'd "platinum" a Mario game just to get the overalls for my mii, for instance.
But what's there to reveal about it? It exists. You can look up how NFC works and you know how Skylanders used the tech for a game. What else do you need? The feature itself is fully known. What's left to know is how it is being used by software. That has nothing to do with the controller though.
Yes, but I'm not sure Wwise even uses the DSP yet. It's not mentioned anywhere in the (public) docs, and they didn't really use the Vita DSP for quite some time either. The problem is that DSP effects don't necessarily behave identical to software effects, which could lead to issues and additional work for multiplatform development.
chertipros
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Sony and nintendo's is not surprising. AT ALL. But outside of localization a little R&D and marketing departments, what does NOA even do? NST hasn't made a game in like forever
Mihael Mello Keehl
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Same shit to me. I just want to see it in action with the WiiU gamepad.
I think NST isn't part of NoA to begin with. Neither are NTD or Retro.
Shikamaru Ninja
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Outside R&D, marketing, and localization? Those are pretty big fields. Not sure what else you expect them to do. But they have an executive, marketing, and sales division. A customer service division. An RMA division. They have a Localization (NOA Tree House), Quality Testing (NOA Product Testing Dept.), a licensing division, and an engineering division (NOA Engineering). Then, they also have additional R&D companies in NST and NTD in their offices.
chertipros
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Thanks for clearing that up. And i dunno i just assumed that Nintendo Of America would be more involved in software development. Not really just having a ton of US studios making games, but a department kinda like Nintendo SPD that oversees the development of US based third party's like Next level and Monster
Cool, thanks, I almost missed this post.
It's a cross platform library and needs to perform as close to the same on all platforms; something a DSP version for a specific platform might not be able to do. Therefore getting a software library up and running for multiplatform games is probably a higher priority.
Japan/EU I assume you mean? With the NoA info coming out next week, it'd seem weird to have a ND as well in that territory. That said, they had that one just before E3.
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