He still posts on the Steam forums, I should see what he had to say about Pillars of Eternity.
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Will Obsidian do a new Fallout?
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Is this a joke response?
Dick Justice
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Wild Wasteland
And while it made for some funny moments (e.g. the Horatio Caine parody), they at least had the good sense to not overdo it.i don't think there's any indications so, but i don't really understand the business case not to do it. it will be years till the next fallout game as bethesda make a vast elder scrolls and then a vast fallout 5 and it's a hugely popular franchise. why not. it's not diminishing the franchise by making regular entries as it'll still be a franchise that's every three or so years - compared to everything else which is yearly.
then it kinda has to be obsidian as the only other studios with pedigree and expertise in this style of game are like owned by ea or have their own popular ip (projeckt red). then metacritic situation aside, new vegas was broadly well received and true to the vision, if not as popular as the numbered entries outside of rpg enthusiasts. it's not like obsidian are going to reject a regular paycheck and the chance to make an rpg for a ten million + audience.
then it kinda has to be obsidian as the only other studios with pedigree and expertise in this style of game are like owned by ea or have their own popular ip (projeckt red). then metacritic situation aside, new vegas was broadly well received and true to the vision, if not as popular as the numbered entries outside of rpg enthusiasts. it's not like obsidian are going to reject a regular paycheck and the chance to make an rpg for a ten million + audience.
Chance Hale
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It is upsetting but I think it's useful to point out to Bethesda zealots one of the big reasons why so many people are disappointed in their entries in the series.
And I missed that quest in FO4, lol.
That is because external studios have gotten wise to their predation (not that many in the wild still exist).
True. I was just being melodramatic, and because it always shows up, without fail.
Be happy you missed that quest, it is a bucket of stupid.
Rushersauce
Banned
I remember that POS. I was "Let me guess... Your parents are alive".... BINGO, they are. Give me a break.
If they did New Vegas in 18 months with/because of Gamebryo/working with pre-existing systems, then I think it's totally feasible to see a fully-voiced spin-off in three years.
But like others have said, it's probably not going to happen due to prior and more financially rewarding obligations.
Obsidian have always been better at choice and consequence and dialogue. I'm more of a fan of an engaging world than a meticulously emptier one though (FO4 vs NV). It's not a huge deal, but I hope they'd improve on that front. I prefer gameplay content over realism pretense, especially when it yields diminishing returns when you begin fast-traveling to and fro anyway, and New Vegas ended too quickly because of it for me. In fact, the first couple of empty hours of FO4's map were worse for that reason. But then again, I'm not really the kind of person so jaded about the current state of bombastic/vapid video games so as to wank all over the artistic choices in Shadow of the Colossus for example. I have a needy lizard brain. I have no doubts that Obsidian would add better uniques (Bethesda made me frown some here for sure) and an even more satisfying level of modding and a way more wholesome RP experience overall.
I'd be happy even with an Obsidian-made DLC guest-expansion of FO4 on the scale of, say, W3's Hearts of Stone even (worst-case scenario).
But like others have said, it's probably not going to happen due to prior and more financially rewarding obligations.
Obsidian have always been better at choice and consequence and dialogue. I'm more of a fan of an engaging world than a meticulously emptier one though (FO4 vs NV). It's not a huge deal, but I hope they'd improve on that front. I prefer gameplay content over realism pretense, especially when it yields diminishing returns when you begin fast-traveling to and fro anyway, and New Vegas ended too quickly because of it for me. In fact, the first couple of empty hours of FO4's map were worse for that reason. But then again, I'm not really the kind of person so jaded about the current state of bombastic/vapid video games so as to wank all over the artistic choices in Shadow of the Colossus for example. I have a needy lizard brain. I have no doubts that Obsidian would add better uniques (Bethesda made me frown some here for sure) and an even more satisfying level of modding and a way more wholesome RP experience overall.
I'd be happy even with an Obsidian-made DLC guest-expansion of FO4 on the scale of, say, W3's Hearts of Stone even (worst-case scenario).
Sure hope so. Need a Fallout this generation that is not a battlefield fucking everywhere, even in the "main city" (Diamond City) that should be the opposite of that, less glitchy sims bullshit, 20 FPS performance with a 980 Ti, nine out of ten the quests being fucking terrible, stupid, childish writing and loading times that make the game almost unplayable. This game makes me fucking mad here. "Won't someone please think of the poor robots and their feelings." Holy shit. And never was the Brotherhood this intrusively stupid; they want to take away technology from others because they'd abuse it and harm the world. They do this by bombing the whole place with mini nukes, laser weapons and floating in the sky with their fancy ship forever which has exhaust emissions of 200.000 VW cars.
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Deleted member 17706
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Good post!
I think I'm gonna go back and play a bit of Fallout 2. The whole game is great, but I particularly love the opening hours.
Suggesting Fallout 3 did which is absolute nonsense.
I fail to understand how Fallout 3 being flawed all of a sudden means New Vegas isn't. I also laughed at New Vegas having such a "free form" story that it's impossible to tell where the story begins and ends. . .which is utter fucking nonsense.
Eh? See the post above yours.
Miles Quaritch
Member
I'd honestly settle for Obsidian working on major DLC for FO4.
While I'd love something similar to New Vegas, I'm not sure we'll get it, so I'd rather aim for something more realistic and hope they can be contracted to work on the DLC.
While I'd love something similar to New Vegas, I'm not sure we'll get it, so I'd rather aim for something more realistic and hope they can be contracted to work on the DLC.
What does "almost exclusively" mean to you? To me it suggests that the majority of the game trades on Quality X as to be nearly defined by it. What was zany about Paradise Falls, Nipton or Harkness exactly?
Dick Justice
Banned
Nipton was in Fallout 3?
PastorOfMuppets
Banned
They don't necessarily have to do a Fallout game to make a post apocalyptic RPG guys. The original Fallout after all was a spiritual successor to Wasteland because Interplay couldn't get the license from EA.
Hell, why not that? Obsidian could help out with the next Wasteland. It would probably be a pretty well done, narrative driven traditional cRPG like Pillars of Eternity.
But if I could be real with y'all, my dream would be for Obsidian to do a Mass Effect spinoff or some sort of space opera RPG in the same vein that the original Mass Effect concept. To explore strange new worlds, to boldly go where no man has gone before *cues up Star Trek TNG theme*.
Hell, why not that? Obsidian could help out with the next Wasteland. It would probably be a pretty well done, narrative driven traditional cRPG like Pillars of Eternity.
But if I could be real with y'all, my dream would be for Obsidian to do a Mass Effect spinoff or some sort of space opera RPG in the same vein that the original Mass Effect concept. To explore strange new worlds, to boldly go where no man has gone before *cues up Star Trek TNG theme*.
Ivan Amiibo
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can a dev do a free total conversion mod of another dev's game
BigTnaples
Todd Howard's Secret GAF Account
Was the new Wasteland game not well received? I thought it was?
Waiting until I buy my Surface Book to play it, but I was under the impression it was created to fill the void left by Wasteland and Fallout 1-2. Did it not succeed?
ZombieSupaStar
Member
Eh?
I feel people are intentionally forgetting this gem when talking about FO4's dialog system - It's not the system FO4 got wrong, it was execution.
Yeah, this is a Fallout 4 voice system that seems like an actual RPG, Obsidian did it second (Mass Effect) and better than Bethesda.
Obsidian just needs to make a new series where the apocalypse is based on the 80's instead of the 50's idea of sci-fi, then set it in post-nuclear South Florida. We'll call it Atomic Nights: Miami. Radioactive swamps in the everglades, neon city streets, maybe even some boating through the raider tribes in the keys.
CrichtonKicks
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Obsidian doesn't turn down work. I think they would do another Fallout game in a heartbeat if offered. Also, they did work with Bethesda on two projects after FO:NV (an attempt to revive Prey 2 and a new IP I believe).
I believe they said the that MS-canned game is now alive again with a new publisher and should be announced in the coming months.
Michael Thornton is a pretty different protagonist from Fallout ones though. He is closer to Geralt.
I just want a Fountain of Dreams sequel, I don't care who does it.
ZombieSupaStar
Member
Better than Bethesda-Shephard from F4 though.
People keep bringing up the AP and ME converstation systems as if they were similar. They are not. ME used its wheel as a shorthand for text and to organise the type of dialog option (i.e. positive negative, inquiries etc.), it is about what you directly say. AP is more about the tone of your response not what you directly say.
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Deleted member 17706
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New Vegas suffers from plenty of the same issues, but I found it much more engrossing, personally. It's not the same as the old games, for sure, but I'd put it in the "less flawed" camp compared to Fallout 3.
BigTnaples
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DoublePayje
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I might come too late to the thread, but actually i asked the guys from Obsidian in an interview a month ago (late october). Was there because we talked about Armored Warfare and at some point of an hour or so interview i wanted to know what their next game will be afterwards.
They were extremly open to the question (which is wierd in this industry) and they said they talked with Bethesda because they would love to do it, but Bethesda said no till now.
You might wanna add that to the first post, OP.
They were extremly open to the question (which is wierd in this industry) and they said they talked with Bethesda because they would love to do it, but Bethesda said no till now.
You might wanna add that to the first post, OP.
decoyplatypus
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Old-school CRPG types seemed to like it well enough. I don't know whether it pulled many new fans, and I have no idea about the sales.
Yes I wish they would do it but I doubt Bethesda would allow them to cut the main character voice acting and go back to the old dialogue system.
The only other two companies that I can think of that can work with Fallout 4's new systems and have it be good is CDPR or BioWare. The former is a lot better but at least BioWare's writing isn't as bad as Bethesda's.
The only other two companies that I can think of that can work with Fallout 4's new systems and have it be good is CDPR or BioWare. The former is a lot better but at least BioWare's writing isn't as bad as Bethesda's.
PastorOfMuppets
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Oh it was received very well and I thought it was a great game. I'm just saying that Obsidian could do Wasteland 3 or their own spiritual successor to Fallout. Say instead of a retro-future 50's style, they could do an Post-Apocalyptic scenario that was typical of 1970's sci-fi and build upon that. There's nothing specific about the Fallout Universe that absolutely requires that you set a game there IMO.
Also, I thought the Black Isle/Obsidian Fallout Trilogy (1, 2, New Vegas) have pretty much told the story of the West Coast wastes to a satisfactory conclusion.
Melon Husk
Member
Wasteland 3 by Obsidian seems more likely, but if they get offered good terms, they should say yes to a FO4 sequel.
Fallout 3 felt like a tech demo for the final game that was New Vegas.
Yautja_Warrior
Member
I would buy it, if they did the next game. Would really love to see them do a Fallout: London, see how the other side of the world deals with the world, after the bombs drop.
Fantastapotamus
Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
Of course. Fallout 4 but with good writting, interesting quests and companions and a good story would be ace.