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[OrangeAtlas]

The first act of Valerian is deliciously creative and sets a great precedent, but the last two acts just drop the ball entirely.

I really do wonder what leads some people to be sitting in the same theater as me in the afternoon when I'm watching something like Valerian or King Arthur. Baby Driver and Dunkirk are ten feet that way, go see that.

 

[3N16MA]

David Yates is the true star director at WB. They gave him 180M to do Tarzan.

 

[duckroll]

David Yates is the true star director at WB. They gave him 180M to do Tarzan.

No, that's not accurate. They gave 180M for Tarzan to be made. Yates did it because he was asked to.

 

[kurahador]

David Yates is the true star director at WB. They gave him 180M to do Tarzan.

That's the price of his soul. Now he's stuck with Fantastic Beast until the end of time.

 

[Toa TAK]

I think the Walter Chaw review for Dunkirk goes against the grain, but is worth a read all the same.

The first act of Valerian is deliciously creative and sets a great precedent, but the last two acts just drop the ball entirely.

I really do wonder what leads some people to be sitting in the same theater as me in the afternoon when I'm watching something like Valerian or King Arthur. Baby Driver and Dunkirk are ten feet that way, go see that.

They probably already saw them. Like me.

 

[Pachimari]

2 hours till my showing of Dunkirk and I'm not feeling it. Probably cause I'm damn tired. Guess I'll just sit back and take it in.

 

[Macadinho94]

Am I the only one who thinks Ansel Elgort would make a pretty good young Han Solo? Dude has charisma beaming from everywhere

 

[Matt_]

Has David Yates got any pet projects in the work?
I mean hes directed $5.5bn for WB, with another ~$3bn on the way with the fantastic films (if he does them all)
I know its franchise fare and Tarzan was eh but that sort of money must get the guy some goodwill surely

 

[LordOfLore]

Sounds like Batgirl starts filming early next year.

 

[lightskintwin]

Deadline Projections after Saturday 12:53 am
Dunkirk 51.8 M
Girls Trip 29.2 M
Valerian 16 M

 

[BronsonLee]

Has David Yates got any pet projects in the work?
I mean hes directed $5.5bn for WB, with another ~$3bn on the way with the fantastic films (if he does them all)
I know its franchise fare and Tarzan was eh but that sort of money must get the guy some goodwill surely

Tarzan WAS the pet project

 

[Mrbob]

So this is the weekend Wonder Woman passes Guardians 2?

 

[Bobby Roberts]

Am I the only one who thinks Ansel Elgort would make a pretty good young Han Solo? Dude has charisma beaming from everywhere

He was on the shortlist, I believe. Him and Emory Cohen of "Brooklyn."

 

[Slayven]

Deadline Projections after Saturday 12:53 am
Dunkirk 51.8 M
Girls Trip 29.2 M
Valerian 16 M

Rough Night= $21,781,082

 

[Chamber]

Dunkirk looking a little frontloaded brehs. $50m weekend isn't a lock with that Friday.

So this is the weekend Wonder Woman passes Guardians 2?

Today is the day.

 

[Kenzodielocke]

Sounds like Batgirl starts filming early next year.

"He's going to start that next year". Where'd you get that early or even shooting part from?

 

[kswiston]

Friday Studio Estimates

1) Dunkirk - $19.8M
2) Girls Trip - $11.7M
3) Valerian - ??
4) War for the Planet of the Apes - $5.9M - $98M total

 

[Guzim]

Friday Studio Estimates

1) Dunkirk - $19.8M
2) Girls Trip - $11.7M
3) Valerian - ??
4) War for the Planet of the Apes - $5.9M - $98M total

NOLAN!!!!

 

[kswiston]

Cloverfield got booted to Feb 2nd, 2018.

 

[DMczaf]

NOLAN!!!!

 

[DMczaf]

Friday Studio Estimates

1) Dunkirk - $19.8M
2) Girls Trip - $11.7M
3) Valerian - ??
4) War for the Planet of the Apes - $5.9M - $98M total

When can I get my Dunkirk kids meal toys and action figures?

Where is my Dunkirk video game!?

Dunkirk Convention in Anaheim next year, Guzim!?

 

[Chamber]

Can we keep it classy in here and stick with coli emotes?

 

[Guzim]

When can I get my Dunkirk kids meal toys and action figures?

Where is my Dunkirk video game!?

Dunkirk Convention in Anaheim next year, Guzim!?

Every history teacher will be showing Dunkirk in class this upcoming school year.

Can we keep it classy in here and stick with coli emotes?

DM really wants Gerard Butler in a Nolan film.

 

[Slayven]

Cloverfield got booted to Feb 2nd, 2018.

Better enjoy those 2 weeks of Pre-BP history

 

[FTF]

Friday Studio Estimates

1) Dunkirk - $19.8M
2) Girls Trip - $11.7M
3) Valerian - ??
4) War for the Planet of the Apes - $5.9M - $98M total

Huh, surprised it came in under $20m. A $50m and higher than Interstellar ow is very impressive though.

And bad drop for Apes :/

Also surprised SMH isn't 4th.

Edit: wait, it is w/$6.3m and Valerian did $6.5m. http://www.boxofficemojo.com/daily/chart/

 

[jett]

Friday Studio Estimates

1) Dunkirk - $19.8M
2) Girls Trip - $11.7M
3) Valerian - ??
4) War for the Planet of the Apes - $5.9M - $98M total

Apes cratered, man.

 

[DMczaf]

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=daily&id=valerian.htm

Production Budget: $209.184 million

they really had to add that .184, didn't they?

 

[Chamber]

Home video and on demand will carry Valerian to massive profits, I ain't even mad.

 

[jett]

Home video and on demand will carry Valerian to massive profits, I ain't even mad.

Yes, just like Speed Racer. /s

There are so many production companies involved I guess they really spread the risk around. I figured Valerian might actually tank an entire company but maybe not.

 

[FTF]

Home video and on demand will carry Valerian to massive profits, I ain't even mad.

 

[kswiston]

Friday Studio Estimates

1) Dunkirk - $19.8M
2) Girls Trip - $11.7M
3) Valerian - $6.5M
4) Spider-Man Homecoming - $6.4M (-54%) - $236M total
5) War for the Planet of the Apes - $5.9M (-73%) - $98M total
6) Despicable Me 3 - $3.8M (-40%) - $204M total
7) Baby Driver - $1.7M (-36%) - $80M total
8) The Big Sick - $1.4M (-43%) - $21M total
9) Wonder Woman - $1.3M (-38%) - $386M total
10) Wish Upon - $750k (-65%) - $9M total

 

[duckroll]

So much for Apes killing the Spider.

 

[Slayven]

So much for Apes killing the Spider.

 

[ZeoVGM]

Oh man, if Spidey comes up slightly above Valerian.

 

[kswiston]

I updated the Friday gross post to include the top 10 and percent drops.

Oh man, if Spidey comes up slightly above Valerian.

Spider-man will be third this weekend. $1.8M of Valerian's gross was Thursday.

 

[LordOfLore]

Will WW go past GotG before WB's SDCC panel?

 

[womfalcs3]

LOL Valerian cost 209.184 million dollars, according to BOM.

 

[ZeoVGM]

... Why does BOM have the .184 there? I've never seen them do that.

 

[Bronx-Man]

Home video and on demand will carry Valerian to massive profits, I ain't even mad.

I did my part!

 

[FTF]

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=daily&id=valerian.htm

they really had to add that .184, didn't they?

lol like salt in the wound.

LOL Valerian cost 209.184 million dollars, according to BOM.

I just don't know how STX had the money to fund this (I'm sure there's other investors? cause they don't have any big enough hits to be able to front all that: http://www.boxofficemojo.com/studio/chart/?studio=stx.htm) or how they got tricked/convinced this was going to be the next Avatar or Guardians of the Galaxy or something and the movie's budget should be that much.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

Are Wonder Woman and Baby Driver just gonna get sub-40% drops all the way to their respective finish lines?

 

[HeySeuss]

I told you guys Valerian would bomb.

 

[Messofanego]

I told you guys Valerian would bomb.

We all did.

 

[RastaMentality]

how does nolan constantly do this? he legit has a baked in fanbase. it's crazy how he and fincher just captivate the GP with unsuspecting films.

 

[El Topo]

I just don't know how STX had the money to fund this (I'm sure there's other investors? cause they don't have any big enough hits to be able to front all that: http://www.boxofficemojo.com/studio/chart/?studio=stx.htm) or how they got tricked/convinced this was going to be the next Avatar or Guardians of the Galaxy or something and the movie's budget should be that much.

STX is the distributor. You want to look at Luc Besson's production company, EuropaCorp. That company has produced the Taken series, the Transporter series and Lucy.
It would be really sad if Valerian tanked the company.

 

[berzeli]

Cloverfield got booted to Feb 2nd, 2018.

So that leaves Paramount with:
mother!
Suburbicon
Daddy's Home 2
Downsizing
for the rest of the year... They're going to finish this year behind Lionsgate, aren't they?

I mean for all the shit Sony (mostly deservedly) gets, Paramount has been more dysfunctional for a while. I don't think they've launched a single franchise/series which has had all of its films make over $100 million domestic since G.I. Joe in 2009. Well there is How to Train Your Dragon but they only released the first one, so not sure if that one counts.
By comparison Sony has had; Hotel Transylvania (2 films, 3rd in production), Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs (2 films, seems dead), Jump Street (2 films, 3rd in development hell), Amazing Spider Man (2 films, rebooted), and Grown Ups (2 films, no 3rd one thank god).

Deadline Projections after Saturday 12:53 am

You left out the best quote from the article

“Dunkirk will somehow make money,” one packager praised about its prospects, “Don’t ask me how, but I am done betting against Chris Nolan.”

I just don't know how STX had the money to fund this (I'm sure there's other investors? cause they don't have any big enough hits to be able to front all that: http://www.boxofficemojo.com/studio/chart/?studio=stx.htm) or how they got tricked/convinced this was going to be the next Avatar or Guardians of the Galaxy or something and the movie's budget should be that much.

They didn't.

It's being financed by Europacorp (Besson's company), and they're doing it via pre-sales, tax rebates, and Taken money.

 

[FTF]

STX is the distributor. You want to look at Luc Besson's production company, EuropaCorp. That company has produced the Taken series, the Transporter series and Lucy.
It would be really sad if Valerian tanked the company.

They didn't.

It's being financed by Europacorp (Besson's company), and they're doing it via pre-sales, tax rebates, and Taken money.

ah ok, thanks. Googling and looking in Europacorp not sure how they were able to give this movie a $200m budget either though :/

 

[El Topo]

ah ok, thanks. Googling and looking in Europacorp not sure how they were able to give this movie a $200m budget either though :/

Well, berzeli explained it already. Basically their success with Taken/Lucy allowed them to gather a lot more money from investors/banks than usual.

 

[firelogic]

Yes, just like Speed Racer. /s

There are so many production companies involved I guess they really spread the risk around. I figured Valerian might actually tank an entire company but maybe not.

EuropaCorp is only on the hook for about $20M.

As per Forbes: In documents I have seen, the estimated final net cost after tax credits will come in at $150 million. Shmuger says, ”The movie is now completed and ready to be delivered to partners around the world. We benefited from French rebates for shooting at our facilities in Paris, and the New Zealand and Canadian rebates for work we did in those places. In sum, our financial exposure after equity financing and foreign sales from our many partners around the world is less than 10% of the budget. In other words, the cost to EuropaCorp to mount the largest European production ever made....the total cost to the company is not $200 million or $150 million, but under $20 million of financial exposure."

 

[FTF]

^ ah and thanks for that link firelogic.

Well, berzeli explained it already. Basically their success with Taken/Lucy allowed them to gather a lot more money from investors/banks than usual.

Yeah I see that now...just a terrible decision/mistake all around. Wonder if it has any success overseas.