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World could be one crop failure away from an actual food crisis

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NotWii

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http://www.theglobeandmail.com/repo...-spark-fears-of-social-unrest/article1859417/

So far in 2010:
•Corn: Up 63%
•Wheat: Up 84%
•Soybeans: Up 24%
•Sugar: Up 55%
http://blogs.forbes.com/greatspeculations/2010/10/27/the-food-crisis-of-2011/

Global food chain stretched to the limit
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41062817/ns/business-consumer_news/

'One poor harvest away from chaos'
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/ea...8247029/One-poor-harvest-away-from-chaos.html

Global food prices hit record high
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/BUSINESS/01/05/food.prices.ft/index.html

Fox News: Food Shortages Coming in 2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ob-ubrC2RnU
Yeah, it's Fox News, but facts are facts!

Queensland floods to increase food prices
http://www.ausfoodnews.com.au/2010/12/29/queensland-floods-to-increase-food-prices.html

Philippines May Lose 600,000 Tons of Rice as Supertyphoon Megi Hits Land
The Philippines, the world’s biggest rice buyer, may lose 600,000 metric tons of the crop as Supertyphoon Megi, the strongest to hit the nation this year, strikes some of the nation’s biggest producing areas, a government official said. Rice futures advanced.

“Once the typhoon hits those areas, the crop will be affected,” Agriculture Undersecretary Antonio Fleta said in a phone interview from Manila. “Even if farmers harvest the damaged rice, they’d have a hard time drying the grain. There may not be much left to sell.”


About 157,000 hectares of land planted to rice in Cagayan and Isabela provinces may be in the path of the typhoon, Fleta said. Megi has sustained winds of 270 kilometers (168 miles) per hour, the U.S. Navy Joint Typhoon Warning Center said, making it a Category 5 storm capable of catastrophic damage.

Half of the planted areas in the two provinces are ready for harvest and the rest are in the reproductive stage, leaving them susceptible to damage, Fleta said.

Damage to Philippine crops would come amid production losses in other countries, further curbing the global harvest and potentially sustaining a rally in prices.

Rough-rice futures have surged 43 percent from this year’s low of $9.55 per 100 pounds on June 30 as flooding in Pakistan and dry weather in the U.S. cut harvests. The contract for November delivery advanced for a fifth consecutive day today, gaining 0.3 percent to $13.655 on the Chicago Board of Trade at 12:10 p.m. Singapore time.


Yields Cut

Potential losses may boost the Philippines’ import needs by 500,000 tons, pushing prices higher in Chicago and Thailand, Chookiat Ophaswongse, former president of the Thai Rice Exporters Association, said by phone from Bangkok today.

“I think it may have some effect, even on U.S. rice prices,” said Chookiat, who advises the export group. Thai rice prices may rise by as much as $20 a ton, he said.

The price of 100 percent Grade-B Thai white rice, the Asian benchmark, dropped 0.2 percent from a week earlier to $510 a ton in the week ended Oct. 6, according to the Thai Rice Exporters Association.

The Food & Agriculture Organization of the United Nations pared its estimate for global rice production on Sept. 1 for the second time since April as lower water levels in the Mekong River cut yields in Thailand and Vietnam, the world’s two biggest exporters, and after the floods in Pakistan.

The FAO cut its milled rice production forecast for this year to 467 million tons on Sept. 1, compared with 474 million tons in April, and 472 million tons in a June report.

Missed Forecast

The rice harvest in the U.S., the world’s fourth-largest exporter last year, may be at least 10 percent smaller than estimated, missing a forecast for record output and pushing prices to as high as $17 per 100 pounds, Dwight A. Roberts, president of the U.S. Rice Producers Association, said last week. Roberts correctly predicted the grain would peak at $16 last year.

The U.S. Department of Agriculture lowered its estimate for for this year’s U.S. rice paddy production by 5 percent to 11 million tons and forecast that average yield per acre would drop to the lowest since the 2005-2006 season.


The Philippines issued its highest alert for Megi as the storm headed for landfall in Luzon island. The storm made landfall at Divilacan, Isabela province, at about 11:30 a.m., Benito Ramos, administrator at the Office of Civil Defense, said by phone.

The nation’s rough rice production was forecast to be little changed from a year earlier at 16.266 million tons this year, after El Nino, which causes drier-than-normal weather, parched crops, according to the July estimate by the Bureau of Agricultural Statistics.

The country’s milled-rice demand was estimated by the USDA at 13.7 million tons this year. That’s about 21 million tons of rough rice, according to Bloomberg calculations, based on the nation’s milling recovery rate of 65 percent.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-...-of-rice-from-typhoon-megi-official-says.html

The outlook from 2008 doesn't look good

When all goes well, thunderheads tower above India's southwestern state of Kerala in early June, drenching the region's vital rice fields and ensuring a bountiful harvest. From there the summer monsoon plods northward to soak the baking plains and irrigate vital breadbasket regions that feed 1.1 billion people before arriving at the foot of the Himalayas in August. Forecasting this complex meteorological process has always been an obsession within India, but this year the world will be watching. Changes in the monsoon cycle can shrink India's total grain harvest by up to 20 percent, creating a shortfall of 30 million metric tons. During India's last crop failure, in 2002, the country had a massive reserve to fall back on. "Now," says Usha Tuteja, an agricultural economist at Delhi University, "we don't have enough buffer stocks to make up for one bad year."

India isn't the only danger zone today. A major storm battering the Philippines or Bangladesh at the wrong moment, a pest or plant-disease outbreak in Vietnam, or floods along China's Yangtze River like those that occurred in the mid-1990s would put serious strains on global grain reserves already depleted to levels not seen since the 1970s. Global markets are behaving as if a food shock is imminent.

In recent months the commodity prices of rice, wheat and corn has jumped 50 percent or more, pushing retail prices to levels unseen in a generation and prompting grain-exporting countries to curtail trade to suppress domestic inflation. On March 20, the World Food Program issued an emergency appeal for more funding to keep aid moving to the world's poorest countries. Last week World Bank president Robert Zoellick called for urgent global action on the part of rich nations "or many more people will suffer or starve."

Experts blame a variety of factors for today's food crunch. Poor harvests in Europe since 2005 and Australia's ongoing drought have crimped the pipeline of staple grains to world markets. Soaring demand for bio-fuels in response to $100-per-barrel oil is diverting crops. And the rise of Asia's twin giants—China and India—is turning them both into market-moving grain hogs. Add to that climate change and a decline in agricultural investment as a percentage of GDP worldwide, and there's little mystery to why food security is a pressing issue from Tokyo to Abidjan. "We're paying the price of complacency," says biologist Robert Zeigler, head of the Philippines-based International Rice Research Institute.

http://www.newsweek.com/2008/04/05/storm-warning.html

2010 Food Crisis for Dummies and the Food Crisis Is Here!
http://www.marketskeptics.com/2010/08/2010-food-crisis-is-here.html

Normalcy Bias theory is about to be tested globally
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Normalcy_bias
 

thefit

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I eat rice everyday and I'm not even Asian. But ever since the 2007 crash I've been kinda paranoid so I have a constant large supply of grains, beans and canned foods. That stuff is going to bee worth 50 PS3's someday or cigarettes.
 

Brazil

Living in the shadow of Amaz
jdogmoney said:
Wait wait wait.


I don't eat rice.
It actually surprises me everytime someone says that, despite the fact that I know very well that not everyone in the world eats like we do in Brazil. :lol

Rice's everything down here.
 

Chairman Yang

if he talks about books, you better damn well listen
jdogmoney said:
Wait wait wait.


I don't eat rice.
It might not matter. With less rice available, consumers could turn to other foods (like wheat) and reduce their availability too.
 

SRG01

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Not going to happen. Excess US corn is already dumped into Africa as aid, suppressing African growers and farmers in many regions. Additionally, this will merely divert exports to domestic consumption.

In other words, there's nothing to be worried about. All of this seems like speculation on food prices, which started many years go -- even before the recession -- to earn a quick buck. Disgusting, really.
 
SRG01 said:
Not going to happen. Excess US corn is already dumped into Africa as aid, suppressing African growers and farmers in many regions. Additionally, this will merely divert exports to domestic consumption.

In other words, there's nothing to be worried about. All of this seems like speculation on food prices, which started many years go -- even before the recession -- to earn a quick buck. Disgusting, really.


but we dont survive off corn. Our cattle does.
 

teh_pwn

"Saturated fat causes heart disease as much as Brawndo is what plants crave."
Teh Hamburglar said:
but we dont survive off corn. Our cattle does.

Only because the government subsidizes corn. Growing grain is pretty expensive because it requires a lot of oil to create the fertilizer. Without the government subsidies, grass fed beef is cheaper. It may use a bit more land, but pastures can be multi-livestock cycled and it doesn't rape the land like grain does. It's more sustainable than importing billions of USD in oil to fertilize the soil. More importantly grass fed beef is one of the healthiest things you can eat. It has the exact ratio of omega3:eek:mega6 fats that is ideal for the human body, loaded with CLA, vitamin K2, more vitamins/minerals. Unlike grains, meat doesn't have phytic acid, so you actually can have your minerals and eat them too. Cow that eats what cow evolved to eat is healthier than feed lot cow binging on grains and sustained by pharmaceuticals because they are so damn sick.
 

SRG01

Member
teh_pwn said:
Only because the government subsidizes corn. Growing grain is pretty expensive because it requires a lot of oil to create the fertilizer. Without the government subsidies, grass fed beef is cheaper. It may use a bit more land, but pastures can be multi-livestock cycled and it doesn't rape the land like grain does. It's more sustainable than importing billions of USD in oil to fertilize the soil. More importantly grass fed beef is one of the healthiest things you can eat. It has the exact ratio of omega3:eek:mega6 fats that is ideal for the human body, loaded with CLA, vitamin K2, more vitamins/minerals. Cow that eats what cow evolved to eat is healthier than feed lot cow binging on grains and sustained by pharmaceuticals because they are so damn sick.

Not to mention that grass-fed beef is absolutely delicious, but that's beside the point. :lol
 

Pochacco

asking dangerous questions
The poor in 3rd world countries will starve to death.
While we in 1st world countries will be slightly annoyed at the bag of rice that's 98 cents more than normal.
 

Mashing

Member
I think we'd be more in trouble (in the US anyway) if we had a corn shortage. There is so much shit the US relies on corn for. It'd be crazy if there was a shortage.
 

Scrow

Still Tagged Accordingly
the real food disaster will be when yellowstone has its overdue eruption and the 6 foot deep layer of ash settles on the bread belt of america
 

HK-47

Oh, bitch bitch bitch.
Scrow said:
the real food disaster will be when yellowstone has its overdue eruption and the 6 foot deep layer of ash settles on the bread belt of america

You trying to fuel Wii up with delicious doomsday scenarios?
 

RedStep

Member
Pochacco said:
The poor in 3rd world countries will starve to death.
While we in 1st world countries will be slightly annoyed at the bag of rice that's 98 cents more than normal.

As God intended it!
 

Scrow

Still Tagged Accordingly
HK-47 said:
You trying to fuel Wii up with delicious doomsday scenarios?
he needs fuel?

just repeating a scenario bill bryson mentions in his (audio) book, a short history of nearly everything. it's a plausible danger.
 

XiaNaphryz

LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Pochacco said:
The poor in 3rd world countries will starve to death.
While we in 1st world countries will be slightly annoyed at the bag of rice that's 98 cents more than normal.
Well:
Chairman Yang said:
It might not matter. With less rice available, consumers could turn to other foods (like wheat) and reduce their availability too.
That said, the US probably produces enough corn to help cover shortages elsewhere (assuming the corn hasn't all been converted to something else first).
 

ToxicAdam

Member
Imagine if this happens and 1 billion people die! Then there will only be 5.8 billion people left! How will the human race survive?!
 
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