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World Cup 2010 7/02: Netherlands Vs. Brazil, Ghana vs Uruguay |OT|
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Funky Papa
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I have zero sympathy for players that go against the spirit of the game. This is also why I hate divers so much.farnham said:
If they are going to represent my country, I want them to win fair and straight, and I expect the same from other teams.
industrian
will gently cradle you as time slowly ticks away.
farnham said:
Melo's stamp on Robben was a malicious and disgusting attempt at injuring him. Saurez hurt nobody with his foul. You're an idiot if you think they compare in any way.
Funky Papa said:
I also expect the referee to make the right fuckin calls.
Its probably the SADDEST thing that could possibly happen to get this far and lose because of some fuckin horrible referee.
AND DAMMIT PLEASE DONT QUOTE ME
i cant keep arguing, ill just get angrier at people saying "lol what 3 penalties are you talking about? lolol HANDBALL SUAREZ OHGOHOH" this has no end.When i find the whole match, on youtube or something i dunno. Ill make some gifs of the referee`s bullshit im talking about, and that should be the end of it.
Stop whining about the handball being "cheating", people. Suarez didn't get away with cheating since he was punished to the full extent of the law.
People applaud defenders and midfielders who break dangerous counter attacks with "professional" fouls. They get cautioned but a very good scoring chance is almost completely gone. Suarez turned an almost certain scoring chance THAT CAME FROM AN OFFSIDE to an 80% chance from the penalty spot. His impulsive gamble paid off big time!
:lol
People applaud defenders and midfielders who break dangerous counter attacks with "professional" fouls. They get cautioned but a very good scoring chance is almost completely gone. Suarez turned an almost certain scoring chance THAT CAME FROM AN OFFSIDE to an 80% chance from the penalty spot. His impulsive gamble paid off big time!
:lol
I've had a night to sleep and think over the events of last night. We have to be honest, Ghana fucked it up for all of us. You don't miss a penalty like that. You should play it safe and put in the right or left lower corner of the net.
However, Suarez is a dickhead. And the penalty should have never happened in the first place, as it was a goal for sure. For damn sure.
I wouldn't be proud of this if I was a Uruguayan, especially considering the fact that there's teams, such as Germany, Argentina, Holland etc. that are considerably better than Ghana waiting to pounce on Uruguay. It was a win that shouldn't have happened, but it did. Much like the denied goal for Lampard.
However, Suarez is a dickhead. And the penalty should have never happened in the first place, as it was a goal for sure. For damn sure.
I wouldn't be proud of this if I was a Uruguayan, especially considering the fact that there's teams, such as Germany, Argentina, Holland etc. that are considerably better than Ghana waiting to pounce on Uruguay. It was a win that shouldn't have happened, but it did. Much like the denied goal for Lampard.
Always-honest
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to bad we don't get to kick suarez in the teeth now.... (i'm for feyenoordNSider said:Stop whining about the handball being "cheating", people. Suarez didn't get away with cheating since he was punished to the full extent of the law.
People applaud defenders and midfielders who break dangerous counter attacks with "professional" fouls. They get cautioned but a very good scoring chance is almost completely gone. Suarez turned an almost certain scoring chance THAT CAME FROM AN OFFSIDE to an 80% chance from the penalty spot. His impulsive gamble paid off big time!
:lol
)Regulus Tera
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Goddammit I just watched the match from where I left off.
Why do I always miss the fun shit?
Why do I always miss the fun shit?
StickyFingers
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This.-viper- said:
sumo390 said:
I'm actually hoping for this now as well. Before I was piggy-backing onto either Argentina or Holland, but now, I want Uruguay to go for the gold. Winning their next game would be legendary enough as they're heavy underdogs but winning the WC after yesterday's events? Stuff of legends
Oh, and the haters ghana hate angle is enticing as well :lol
Boozeroony
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Gyan
A lot of Ghanese people living here. Really wanted them to win.
Dick move by Suarez, but got punished and Ghana could not finish it. All by the book. It might've been offside, but no one on the pitch protested on that.
A lot of Ghanese people living here. Really wanted them to win.
Dick move by Suarez, but got punished and Ghana could not finish it. All by the book. It might've been offside, but no one on the pitch protested on that.
Cerebral Assassin
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jamesinclair said:
Yes tactically unaware football is much more exciting to watch, but lets be honest, how many people can think of a classic Copa Libertadores final that can compare to Istanbul?
Out of intertest, was it actually offside? I have no real position on this.
So far I see the following arguments
a) The free kick shouldnt have been paid
b) Suarez got sent off
c) Awarding the pk is all you can do (not award a goal)
So is the claim the shot was from offside valid? I dont see how it could have been with two defenders on the line but if there is footage to prove it Id love to see.
So far I see the following arguments
a) The free kick shouldnt have been paid
b) Suarez got sent off
c) Awarding the pk is all you can do (not award a goal)
So is the claim the shot was from offside valid? I dont see how it could have been with two defenders on the line but if there is footage to prove it Id love to see.
John Dunbar
correct about everything
Suarez: "I have the 'Hand of God' now"
http://www.skysports.com/football/world-cup-2010/story/0,27032,17368_6243163,00.html
Suarez, you legend, you.
http://www.skysports.com/football/world-cup-2010/story/0,27032,17368_6243163,00.html
Suarez, you legend, you.
Boozeroony
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NSider said:
It was such a close call and the situation was very chaotic. Refs were prolly looking at different things (hand-ball, shirt pulling etc.).
Wouldnt Uruguay be protesting? Guess they did not consider that at the time.
John Dunbar
correct about everything
Boozeroony said:
I'd say it's a refreshing change if players keep playing and trust that linesmen will make the right calls without being told so by the players. I always think it's sad how the whole defense stops playing to stare at the linesman and rasing their arms when someone has the ball inside their penalty box.
Boozeroony
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John Dunbar said:
Oh dear. I'm an Ajax supporter, but Suarez is a cunt. I can understand his foul, but "Hand of God"? Really?
He is overrated anyway. The amount of chances he needs to score is huge. Ok, he scored loads of goals, but many of those were the 4-0 or 5-1 against Willem II.
Cerebral Assassin
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Van Persie is having a scan on his arm according to Sky Sports, any better info from Holland?
Brianemone
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Sleep can wait tonight, going to watch some football.
Suarez played by the rules and it was Ghana's fault for being unable to finish. Blame the rules and Ghana themselves, but still Suarez is a dick and has been my most disliked player of the world cup so far even before the last game. If he had been more well known I'd say he'd get as much hate as C.Ronaldo had for his diving and whiny antics.
Boozeroony
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Cerebral Assassin said:
Gives Van Marwijk an alibi to put Huntelaar up front. Or Kuyt, with Elia/Affelay on left. RvP has been shit this WC.
TdF, WC and Wimbledon. Too much.
Boozeroony
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Boozeroony
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Steeven said:
Not saying he is a bad player, but most Ajax supporters seem to jack off to him. He always goes for own success. In a Mickey Mouse league, he can get oppertunities, but in the EPL or PD or even Serie A, he will get a much tougher time I think. He will get less chances to score and effectiveness will be more crucial. I mean, he was defended by Patrick Pothuizen from last season. Hell, I could score with him in my back. (well, not really, but you know what I mean).
Boozeroony
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Sadist said:
Seriously, Pothuizen is like a running gag. Like Sjaak Polak.
The best outcome should have been:
Twat handballs off the line. Linesman/assistant ref, realising the injustice of it all, doesn't blow for handball, but instead signals that the goal crossed the line. The wrong decision objectively, but the right one in the situation. Goal awarded to Ghana, Ghana wins.
Later on, the replays will show it didn't cross the line. Fifa will slap the linesman wrist, but the media will praise the justice that was done this day.
Twat handballs off the line. Linesman/assistant ref, realising the injustice of it all, doesn't blow for handball, but instead signals that the goal crossed the line. The wrong decision objectively, but the right one in the situation. Goal awarded to Ghana, Ghana wins.
Later on, the replays will show it didn't cross the line. Fifa will slap the linesman wrist, but the media will praise the justice that was done this day.
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Suarez naming himself as having the hand of god sucked about 90% of the cool out of it.
The BBC have a pretty even-handed blog on the subject:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/paulfletcher/2010/07/luis_suarez_hero_or_villain.html#228885
My own thoughts are that Suarez himself broke the rules of the game in a manner entirely covered by the rulebook; he was punished entirely within the scope of the rulebook.
However, there's no way I can say that you should be able to *win* the game by handballing, which is what happened. That's the bit that leaves a sour taste in my mouth. The handball converted a certain loss to a chance of a loss, and that's what I dislike; it's very much against what I feel is the spirit of the game.
So, I feel that the rulebook is inadequate for this situation. The question is whether that inadequacy should be 'fixed' - after all, this was a very extreme situation, that's likely to never happen again - and if so, *how*. Awarding a goal since it would have gone in *feels* rightest, but there's some situations where that could be touch and go (how well would Hawkeye cope in this sort of situation, with so many other bodies around?).
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/paulfletcher/2010/07/luis_suarez_hero_or_villain.html#228885
My own thoughts are that Suarez himself broke the rules of the game in a manner entirely covered by the rulebook; he was punished entirely within the scope of the rulebook.
However, there's no way I can say that you should be able to *win* the game by handballing, which is what happened. That's the bit that leaves a sour taste in my mouth. The handball converted a certain loss to a chance of a loss, and that's what I dislike; it's very much against what I feel is the spirit of the game.
So, I feel that the rulebook is inadequate for this situation. The question is whether that inadequacy should be 'fixed' - after all, this was a very extreme situation, that's likely to never happen again - and if so, *how*. Awarding a goal since it would have gone in *feels* rightest, but there's some situations where that could be touch and go (how well would Hawkeye cope in this sort of situation, with so many other bodies around?).
John Dunbar
correct about everything
mrklaw said:
Suarez deserved the red card, but the situation was started by a bullshit free kick and the goal would have been offside. Ghana having scored from there would have been an injustice. The match going to penalties was the fairest outcome.
ArjanN said:
There's still the bronze medal match.
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