.la1n
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Very good point. It's just far too long, they need to focus on condensing and improving that time. Not stringing out mediocre for three hours.
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WWE Raw drops to lowest TV rating in 18 years
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Very good point. It's just far too long, they need to focus on condensing and improving that time. Not stringing out mediocre for three hours.
You can do great stuff even with a PG rating.
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The Superstar
ready to beat up some villains!
i thought of that Bleach character before i realized who the guy actually was
Baraka in the White House
2-Terms of Kombat
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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lol what is this post? Rollins is the best guy they've got. For a large part of the audience, he's the only reason to watch lately.
Dental Plan
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Make it two hours. Three is a lot to ask out of fans.
Bring back squash matches. Helps build talent.
Don't start every raw with a promo. Start with a match, backstage interview, something besides promo in ring.
Bring back squash matches. Helps build talent.
Don't start every raw with a promo. Start with a match, backstage interview, something besides promo in ring.
I really hope this isn't because of his brother's inoperable brain cancer.
I'd rather it be because of Nikki and Dolph, haha.
Team Alucard
Banned
Time to bring Hogan back and have him feud with New Day.
Not only is he still wrestling, he's beating guys half his age at WrestleMania.
Is this the feud that could save wrestling?
Which audience? He's one of the worst promos in their roster. He's the same character with the same promo every week. He got less of a reaction than John Cena and New Day during the 6 man tag. The 'large part of the audience' doesn't care how athletic he is. They don't care about Rollins because he's the weakest character in a show that's supposed to be all about characters.
Spider from Mars
tap that thorax
The Attitude Era isn't as great as you remember it being.
Can't with USA. They like the ad money.
ScaryShark
Banned
One of the worst paced, bloated and boring shows on television. It feels almost procedural compared to Raw in the late 90s and early 00s. They've completely lost sense of providing a compelling and interesting story and rarely have true cliffhangers. Why would anyone watch 3 soul sucking hours when they can spend 10 minutes right after the show airs and get the 'best' parts on YouTube?
It's depressing how relentlessly mediocre WWE is content to be for at least 10 months of the year and how it continually misjudges and insults its audience. They deserve to be floundering in the ratings. It goes beyond Monday Night Football and the way people consume television too.
It's depressing how relentlessly mediocre WWE is content to be for at least 10 months of the year and how it continually misjudges and insults its audience. They deserve to be floundering in the ratings. It goes beyond Monday Night Football and the way people consume television too.
Pretty much...
these dudes made the rating tolerable...
I can't believe we still having this whole "PG era sux" argument, when the product was worth watching around the area because of tolerable booking and wrestlers that actually interact with the fanbase.
kunonabi
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I love Pro wrestling but I just can't bring myself to watch raw anymore. It's just the same promos, from the same wrestlers, and the same matches again and again. It's a shame because there is some dynamite talent on the roster but they just don't use any of it well. We need more stuff like Lesnar F5ing EVERYTHING or Angle and his milk truck. Disruptive stuff to get out of their same old routine every week.
I'd much rather go through old ppvs on the network or watch the current stuff from NJPW.
I'd much rather go through old ppvs on the network or watch the current stuff from NJPW.
Team Alucard
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controversy creates ca$h
Premium Quality
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Bring back Good Ol' JR.
Bring back blood.
Bring back more Attitude era moments.
Bring back blood.
Bring back more Attitude era moments.
did meme status hit him that hard lol?
It kinda is if you go from watching current content and then watch some 1998 episodes. I've done it and never really watched those Raws back in the day so there's no rose colored nostalgia here. The 1998 stuff is simply more entertaining in every way.
Baraka in the White House
2-Terms of Kombat
Back when I used to watch wrestling (about 15 years ago, fuck I feel old) three-hour RAWs were a rare thing and shit went down during those shows.
Exactly...
Nobody wants to hear dick jokes, see bloody matches with no substance, and Russo induced storylines in 2015.
strikeselect
You like me, you really really like me!
Well, at least Vince got to bury Sting before RAW died. The last "FU" stamp of the Monday Night Wars.
Unforgiven '00 is where Steph's tenure as creative head starts. Chris Kreski was the guy who took over after Russo left and was absolutely absurd at the job.
ScaryShark
Banned
The AE is a lot more than Vince Russo. Go watch late '99-'01 when Chris Kreski was lead writer for the majority of that time. Actual storyboarded plots (gasp!), an extremely balanced card, feuds that went beyond titles, etc. It doesn't have much to do with blood or dick jokes.
x Power Pad Death Stomp x
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It's not being "PG" or lack of blood. The storylines are either stupid, retreads or predictable.
They make a point of putting out a shit product, and instead of looking at why it's in decline just double down on it all.
Vince is a millionaire who should be a billionaire.
They make a point of putting out a shit product, and instead of looking at why it's in decline just double down on it all.
Vince is a millionaire who should be a billionaire.
old manatee
Banned
I heard it was all fake.
The Faceless Master
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they deserve it.
ScaryShark
Banned
Kane is a huge part of storylines in 2015. Kane.
This guy knows what's up
YeeaaaOH!
Ah 1999 and 2000. The Triple H/Stephanie era :/. I don't know whats worse...seeing the Authority cut long winded promos every Monday or living through that miserable time. The only highlight of that 99-01 was the midcarders going the extra mile. Guys like
Benoit
Spider from Mars
tap that thorax
WWE peaked between 02-07.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Cole vs King rematch at Wrestlemania 32.
Nemesis121
Member
Everyone was busy watching Rodger's average performance..
SmackDown maybe. Everything else, lolno.
ZombieSupaStar
Member
nah 98-01
Frustrated_Grunt
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People are losing interest in WWE. TNA is on its way out (is Destination America still airing them?). No one knows what Lucha Underground is (is it coming back?). I don't want to be a pessimist, but I'm worried.
Ok, after going back and seeing the matches around that period and listening to the Attiude Era podcast, you maybe right. Sans WM 2000.
ScaryShark
Banned
This is an extremely minority opinion of that time and certainly wasn't how the crowds or ratings felt about it. Triple H was perfect at doing what he needed to do: be absolutely loathed and then lay down for the hottest young talent in the world. You know, like wrestling has always done.
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