I definitely see your point of view but I'm not certain it's in EA's best interest because most of their games are cross platform. And regardless of which console has a larger install base at the beginning, XB1 will still sell well, and having great looking games on both consoles will likely make them more money than having great looking games on one console. Again I could be wrong.
Can we all agree on one thing? It is better for us, the consumers, if the XB1 and PS4 both succeed. I definitely want them both to succeed!
Being a mostly online, FPS gamer, I am more confident in XB Live than PSN, and I don't want to wait a year to play Titanfall.That is why I chose XB1. But that could change later.
how can the X1 & PS4 not be running games in 1080p & at 60fps from the get-go ?
i just cannot understand with the specs & tech inside them why they are struggling, it could be the developers maybe & not the hardware, but they cannot be having problems can they ?
I know what your saying and I agree to an extent, but we really weren't far away from 480p sometimes this gen, for instance BLOPS on PS3 was 544p, that's far closer to 480p than 720p.
I Just hope they use the all of the hardware to the est of their abilities, that's all I ask.
Seriously the kind of BS being pushed around.
Xbone DRM? Look at Steam
Xbone underpowered? Look at Apple
smh.
Modern Warfare ran at 60 fps in 2007 (albeit at 600p). I kinda want my games 6 years later to do a little better.
I don't get this sentiment at all (which has repeated more than once in the thread by the time this post rolled around).Fuck you MS, EA and DICE, PC version it is then.
I don't get this sentiment at all (which has repeated more than once in the thread by the time this post rolled around).
If you want to extend the finger to the developer, why buy the title at all?
how can the X1 & PS4 not be running games in 1080p & at 60fps from the get-go ?
i just cannot understand with the specs & tech inside them why they are struggling, it could be the developers maybe & not the hardware, but they cannot be having problems can they ?
I understand the desire but I don't know how an official statement doesn't hurt them one way or the other. An official statement will result in a few different sensationalized headlines from the gaming press:
- Same resolution - Forced Parity related headlines - Sony fans upset
- PS4 higher resolution - BF4 inferior Xbox One version related headlines - MS fans upset
- God forbid Xbox One higher resolution - BF4 inferior PS4 version related headlines - The end of the world as we know it
- Say nothing - A few rumor based headlines from less reputable sites - The hardest of the hardcore are annoyed most are completely unaware of the controversy
I would just suggest anyone truly concerned at this point should simply wait for actual comparisons after launch. Maybe they do end up at the same resolution but with improved image quality and effects on PS4, which complicates any response DICE could honestly give.
Seriously. What are you talking about. Apple products have bleeding edge hardware. The iPhone 5s is tops in basically every benchmark.Is Apple good for consumers?
Heck, post-2001 was the PS2 good for consumers (was more expensive than Gamecube)?
Seriously. What are you talking about. Apple products have bleeding edge hardware. The iPhone 5s is tops in basically every benchmark.
I understand the desire but I don't know how an official statement doesn't hurt them one way or the other. An official statement will result in a few different sensationalized headlines from the gaming press:
- Same resolution - Forced Parity related headlines - Sony fans upset
- PS4 higher resolution - BF4 inferior Xbox One version related headlines - MS fans upset
- God forbid Xbox One higher resolution - BF4 inferior PS4 version related headlines - The end of the world as we know it
- Say nothing - A few rumor based headlines from less reputable sites - The hardest of the hardcore are annoyed most are completely unaware of the controversy
I would just suggest anyone truly concerned at this point should simply wait for actual comparisons after launch. Maybe they do end up at the same resolution but with improved image quality and effects on PS4, which complicates any response DICE could honestly give.
True. But it'll be pixel counted and we'll have face-offs on November 22nd so something will happen
You surprised he would post that nonsense? Anything to divert his undying allegiance.Seriously the kind of BS being pushed around.
Xbone DRM? Look at Steam
Xbone underpowered? Look at Apple
smh.
Seriously the kind of BS being pushed around.
Xbone DRM? Look at Steam
Xbone underpowered? Look at Apple
smh.
Didn't stop them from making inferior versions of multiplatform games on systems with more powerful hardware.
I remember games like NFS Hot Pursuit 2 being worse on the GC & Xbox vs. the PS2 with the former having different gameplay mode formats as well as those games being handled by smaller teams in comparison to the PS2 version.
Overall, a person wishing that a console didn't exist just because of the belief that their console of choice is being held back by that other console is childish console war nonsense. It all comes down to sales -- if one console greatly outsells another, then that console will get top priority regardless of whether or not it's more powerful than the other(s).
of course if the ps4 version is 720p then everyone is going to call parity scandal.. right?
Well... considering how it was confirmed by DICE that it currently runs above 720p, would that not strike you as alarmingly odd?
60fps is great. I'll take it over 1080p/30 anyday, although I was expecting 1080/60.
THIS! I don't expect most next gen consoles being able to do 1080p/60fps so I'd prefer 720p/60fps than 1080p/30fps. Especially since consoles are usually played on tvs which are enjoyed at a distance.
"wtf, only dual core and 1GB ram? My Galaxy easily has twice that"
"wtf, I could get a PC laptop with the same specs for half that cost"
"wtf, $100 for 16GB of memory, and no SD slot"
"wtf, only 8MP camera? lame"
Of course, I think they make up for it in plenty of other ways, which is why I have no problem with their products. And of course, in some other scenarios they do have better real world performance, like the iPhone 5S you mentioned, in spite of their "weaker" specs. But there have been plenty of cases where looking solely at the specs/feature list of an Apple product, it would be considered outclassed and overpriced, which is I think what he was referring to.
Exactly this. So many people don't get that the whole point of having competition is so companies get hurt when they either misbehave or can't keep up. Competition where companies are kept in business just to provide competition doesn't have the same benefits.
Is Apple good for consumers?
Heck, post-2001 was the PS2 good for consumers (was more expensive than Gamecube)?
Very good point/points my friend. I agree completely!
I completely agree, with luck being put on the backfoot will force MS to come out all guns blazing and really up their game. I have no doubt they can offer services through the xbox one that will make the ps4 seem palaeolithic by comparison (in terms of the OS, features etc). .
I don't see them doing that . If Microsoft wants to be competitive they need to do some things they really aren't willing to.
1) the Price would need to drop another $150. However they do it. removing kinect or whatever.
No reason for me to pay the same price (never mind $100 more) for a weaker console.
2) remove their pay wall for already free services like netflix etc...
3) Make sure their is no pay wall for using their cable box guide/features
They want this in the family room to replace a cable box guide then there had better be no strings. No one wants to have to buy a Live account to access free services or Cable TV you already buy.
No reason for me to pay the same price (never mind $100 more) for a weaker console.
Just curious, which console did you bought this gen? If you bought all, which one did you bought first?
This may have been done already, but here's upscaled 720p vs upscaled 900p vs native 1080p in the BF4 beta.
All settings are maxed with post-processing AA and no MSAA. The shimmering effect of lower resolution is a lot more apparent in motion, especially at 720p.
Gimping PS4 version for the sake of parity is worse than the XB1 version not being as pretty due to not being as powerful; that is a legit reason.I definitely see your point of view but I'm not certain it's in EA's best interest because most of their games are cross platform. And regardless of which console has a larger install base at the beginning, XB1 will still sell well, and having great looking games on both consoles will likely make them more money than having great looking games on one console. Again I could be wrong.
Can we all agree on one thing? It is better for us, the consumers, if the XB1 and PS4 both succeed. I definitely want them both to succeed!
Being a mostly online, FPS gamer, I am more confident in XB Live than PSN, and I don't want to wait a year to play Titanfall.That is why I chose XB1. But that could change later.