Cold Lager
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299 is doa here in Europe, the 500gb has been going for like 269 with a game or two for ages now.
Needs to be 199 for any kind of impact.
Needs to be 199 for any kind of impact.
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Xbox One S: 40% smaller, 2TB, 4K for movies/tv, internal PSU, $300
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Jailer of Hope
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The PS3 Slim was available a few days after it was announced at Gamescom also.
justsomeguy
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It's a standard form factor shrink combined with a relatively unprecedented bump in associated capabilities.
Excitement is for a new form factor plus for some the 4k stuff.
So same excitement reasons as ps3slim, x360s and so on.
Somewhat oversimplified but you get 10-bit color instead of 8-bit color, which means much richer colors, whiter whites and blacker blacks. It's part of the 4K spec and your TV set has to support it.
Many people say this has a bigger effect on how good 4K content looks than the resolution itself does.
Indeed. If they can beat Neo to the punch, this thing will be THE Blu-Ray player to get.$299 with UHD BD playback is a game changer for the AV market, never mind the gaming market.
Shaping up to be an interesting year
On that note, does anyone know if this still has its USB ports? Or maybe a bump to USB 3.0? I'm worried with the increased storage capacity options available there's a chance they might stop supporting external HDs.
electric turd
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Would it be too much to ask if these were SSHD like the elite version?
Big Green Anus
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I see $299 as the 1TB version and $349 as the 2TB.
Not really accurate. HDR is not an expanded colour space, it's just brightness/contrast. Expanded colour is part of UHD but it's a different part of the spec (Rec.2020), which I doubt the Xbox will support.
Yes that's exactly what I wanted to know.
Elitist1945
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Only one SKU has the vertical stand? Thats kinda dumb. Or will it be purchasable separately?
Of course it will.
pixelpatch
Junior Member
Looks really sleek, maybe enough for me to go out and buy it?!
The existing Xbox one has usb3.0. If you want to use an external drive, it needs to be a 3.0 one
It's a given.
TBiddy
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DCI P3 is part of 'HDR' though, and supports more colours in the spectrum, than your average TV at home.
Neuromancer
Member
Bwahahaha are you serious.Fuck me.
Yes, it's real. Yes, it was the big surprise at E3 still.
Today fucking sucks. I was so excited to see you all see this stuff get revealed.
Minor hardware revisions are like, the thing at the end of the conference that you spend 2 minutes on.
phant0m
Member
Same. I have Deadpool UHD Bluray waiting to be played!
$299 with UHD BD playback is a game changer for the AV market, never mind the gaming market.
Shaping up to be an interesting year
I'd be interested to see how this goes, that I'm aware of, everyone has migrated to streaming solutions for their media, which is built into most current TV's especially 4K ones, and buys very little in terms of Blu-rays and the like, and that's with them being single-digit prices in many circumstances while UHD is still like $25US minimum.
suddenlyissoon
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I would only be interested in this if it includes a UHD drive. Otherwise I'm waiting for Scorpio, no matter what.
Big Green Anus
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If you only have a 1080p tv, would I see a difference using UHD Blu-rays or just 4K tvs only??
UHD discs will work but they almost certainly won't look any better than existing standard Blu-rays do for you.
Not really.
People said exactly the same in 2006. Physical media will be around for a long time to come. Also there's a big difference between Netflix 4K and UHD BD, and the people currently buying 4K TVs want to see the pretties.
Theoretically 1080p native and 1080p from downsamples 4K should be the same.
But it can be, that the 4K encode is better and results in a better 1080p image.
I don't think you can actually play them, as your 1080p TV doesn't have AACS 2.0.
To be clear, I definitely think physical media still has an important role to fill, and while I buy way less than I used to I still have a fairly large selection of Blu-ray discs, but Blu-ray wasn't a huge gamechanger either when compared to the original DVD juggernaut. Interesting times ahead, regardless.
In Service
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For those of us with Sky Q in the UK, the ability to pass through 4k would be nice before football season kicks off.
muzzymate
Member
Hmmm... interesting. You've got my attention.
Bitch Pudding
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With all those leaks it's hard to imagine many people will be "surprised" anymore. Which is sad. Nothing against a good old leak once in a while, but not like this.
THE:MILKMAN
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The only things I can think of is that Scorpio is going to be detailed and/or coming sooner than we think.......Or:
*crazy talk* Xbox One S has more power?
It was weird how Tom was basically saying to Arthur Gies that Scorpio at E3 was madness for Microsoft and then suddenly changed his stance and used the same language as Arthur (Microsoft will surprise a lot of people)
Or it's something completely different that hasn't leaked....
Great article if you want some details: http://www.cnet.com/news/what-is-hdr-for-tvs-and-why-should-you-care/
MaulerX
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High Dynamic Range means that there is a greater difference on screen between the dark and the bright sections of the picture, and increased levels of graduation in the picture, than standard.
The standard levels of dynamic range for movies/TV were set a long time ago and are basically held back by what Cathode Ray TVs were capable of at the time, which is a long way below what film could capture and you got in theatres.
This means that you can have an image on screen of a character standing indoors in front of a window and you could capture the scene indoors without burning out the details through the window in the background, or vice versa. It's great for skyboxes.
You'll need an HDR supporting TV for it make any difference to you. 4K blu-rays include HDR, and some of the 4K content on Amazon and Netflix have HDR versions (but not all, I imagine almost everything going forward will do).
HDR generally also comes with an increased colour gamut to encompass more reds and greens.
It's unambiguously a good thing - it makes a lot more difference to picture quality to a casual observer than 4K does unless you have a reasonably large screen. Some purists don't like HDR remasters of existing films, but that debate happens with any restoration.
Chittagong
Gold Member
Fuck me.
Yes, it's real. Yes, it was the big surprise at E3 still.
Today fucking sucks. I was so excited to see you all see this stuff get revealed.
What was the big surprise? FFXV at Microsofts conference? You have to be kidding.
All these leaks point to a boring as hell conference anyway.
crazygrape
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Looks great, I have two xbox1 so I will wait for the next upgrade.
Of course it does. But to him, it was the slim.
Xbox One S, 40% smaller, 2TB, internal PSU etc.
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