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Yoshida: There Will Be A Move/Camera PSVR Bundle
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This seems more like the main SKU than anything. Outside of Twitch Streamers and the select few actually interested in Move (Gaf fanboys/fangirls) who actually owns the camera?
The webcam and controllers are probably dirt cheap to produce, but the total manufacturers cost would still be over that magical $400 level, so they sold this lite/camera free version off as the main one. It's not shady like some people are saying on the price OT but it's not exactly nice either. Hopefully they really drill home that a separate camera needs to be purchased when the holidays come around. That said I do believe if Microsoft, Nvidia, Oculus, or even Nintendo pulled this there would be a lot more pissed posters on Gaf tonight. Helps to be teacher's pet.
The webcam and controllers are probably dirt cheap to produce, but the total manufacturers cost would still be over that magical $400 level, so they sold this lite/camera free version off as the main one. It's not shady like some people are saying on the price OT but it's not exactly nice either. Hopefully they really drill home that a separate camera needs to be purchased when the holidays come around. That said I do believe if Microsoft, Nvidia, Oculus, or even Nintendo pulled this there would be a lot more pissed posters on Gaf tonight. Helps to be teacher's pet.
sony could put the camera in and not increase the price than much.
everyone make a killing profit on accessories, sure the ps4 camera is not worth 50/60$
NinjamicWZ
Banned
I saw a ZhugeEX tweet just a few mins ago that pegs it at 5.6 million:
https://twitter.com/ZhugeEX/status/709889439154229252
Nightengale
Member
That is solely an assumption based on 2014 attach rate.
Primethius
Banned
Of course there would be.
I'm still getting the $399 bundle though. I can probably find the Camera for much cheaper then whatever the bundle price ends up being (unless it's like $429 or something).
I'm still getting the $399 bundle though. I can probably find the Camera for much cheaper then whatever the bundle price ends up being (unless it's like $429 or something).
Well, his logic is about Sony first talk about attatch rate of the câmera(15%) at the begin.
Now it's much, muuuuch lower.
Announcing it without bundling was good for 2 reasons:
- People who already have the câmera or/and move controlers;
- People thinking PSVR is $200 cheaper than OR and $400 than VIVE;
ChronotriggerJM
Member
Great for those with some of the stuff already. I know I just need a single move and the camera 
Which is skewed anyway because demand outstripped supply during the early months.
It's for 2014, with the launch/Share/twitch/Playroom boom, of course now the attach rate is a lot lower.
travisbickle
Member
This is all over the place.
I don't understand how selling each part seperately and as a bundle isn't providing the consumer with choice?
Very likely not even close to that number.
15% attach rate was for 6M consoles sold. That came to around 900k cameras.
I'd say it's more likely to be around 2M/2.5M cameras now, not close to 6M.
Interesting. I highly doubt that current estimate though. It was a hot item the first few months after launch but since then there has been no reason to get one outside of streaming. In early 2014 the Playroom (and by that I really mean lounging around smoking dope and talking general tabloid news as little robots ran around your room) was pretty big, but what has replaced it? Going with that stat I'd be surprised if there were 2.5 million cameras in the wild. Respectable number for an unnecessary accessory, but now it's a requirement if you want to play VR.
dragonflys545
Member
I still have my Moves. Just gonna buy the camera.
My girlfriend is excited for this thing.
My girlfriend is excited for this thing.
ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
$100 extra sounds fair enough for me.
lol, just like when they announce the based price of Vita on stage few years back, until people realizes that it doesn't include the priced of the expensive memory card.
I got a Vita during a black Friday deal so the memory card cost me half of what the system did LOL
sixteen-bit
Member
Dreams bundle?
The Last Wizard
Member
No bundles for other territories? Seems shady to me.
THE:MILKMAN
Member
I'm confused with the quote in the OP. If the camera is required i.e. can't use it without, why isn't it included in the £349/$399 package?
This would be like not supplying a DS4 with the PS4.
This would be like not supplying a DS4 with the PS4.
PeakPointMatrix
Member
They're going about this wrong.
Front and center should be the PSVR + Camera for $449, since it's required for basic functionality. Likely the majority of the consumer base needs this starter edition.
Behind that should be the announced hardware as it is, PSVR for just $399 for those with either the camera or move controllers.
And lastly the complete edition, PSVR + Camera + Move Set for $499 for those wanting to invest in everything in one easy package.
Showcasing the camera-less model as the main SKU is only going to produce a lot of disgruntled consumers that realize they'll need a camera the moment they get home and turn the PSVR.
Front and center should be the PSVR + Camera for $449, since it's required for basic functionality. Likely the majority of the consumer base needs this starter edition.
Behind that should be the announced hardware as it is, PSVR for just $399 for those with either the camera or move controllers.
And lastly the complete edition, PSVR + Camera + Move Set for $499 for those wanting to invest in everything in one easy package.
Showcasing the camera-less model as the main SKU is only going to produce a lot of disgruntled consumers that realize they'll need a camera the moment they get home and turn the PSVR.
Because there are millions out there who already bought the camera years ago.
If they're advertising the HMD by itself front and center, then their retail strategy will need to be tight.
1. Big words on box: PSVR REQUIRES PS CAMERA.
2. Retailers should be trained to mention this.
3. Cameras (and Move controllers) should be readily available alongside the HMD box.
4. Packaged bundles also available.
1. Big words on box: PSVR REQUIRES PS CAMERA.
2. Retailers should be trained to mention this.
3. Cameras (and Move controllers) should be readily available alongside the HMD box.
4. Packaged bundles also available.
Nikodemos
Member
Well, they've already sold about two million of the things and they believe most/all of them will end up in the hands of people interested in the PSVR.
ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
But they want the press to write that the PSVR cost $399, so it looks better on the front pages.
The more expensive price tags will reveal later once the dust has settled.
Not much of a surprise really that Sony would get a pass on this, at least here on Gaf.
Personally, I don't have much of an interest but it will be interesting to see what happens with this.
boredandlazy
Member
Why don't you just say SonyGAF? You know you want to.
Dat #MediaBias
SmoothRunningGun
Member
Obviously. They just wanted that 399 for mainstream coverage.
#SonyGAF full of #SonyPonys
THE:MILKMAN
Member
But this is a completely separate technology/peripheral years later and requires the part to function. It is not consumers fault Sony decided to make use of a existing peripheral and I can see this going down like a lead balloon. It is a sneaky way to have a lower headline price.
I guess what will happen is that they will do a bundle with the camera and moves thus increasing the real cost to ~£450.
ginger ninja
Banned
The base version should come with the camera already. It's gonna make a lot of casual early adapters angry when they find out they have to buy another accessory before they can enjoy VR.
Have they said anything about Dreams being VR? They'd be stupid not to do that imo.
TimeEffect
Member
I wonder if they could redesign the move controller. Just need an analog stick on it for it to be perfect
What if MS released a hypothetical VR unit that the base model had a Kinect bundled in. A bunch of people would be pissed that they have to rebuy something they already own.
And why would early adopters not just wait for the bundle?
LukasTaves
Member
"We just didn't announced it so we could get headlines of a $400 price point."
No redesigns.
At most they'll replace the Start and Select with Options and Share buttons, and swap from mini to micro USB
The Faceless Master
Member
they need to use Type-C
TimeEffect
Member
True. No need to make a bunch of people repurchase move controllers
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
Hopefully not just yet. Too many charging cables IMO, even though I already own USB Type-C cables. Might as well use the original cable.
Maybe next generation, they can jump to USB-C.
Mushroom021
Member
BOOM This is what people aren't getting.
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