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Yves Guillemot: "We learned from the mistakes we made with Watch Dogs"
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AuthenticM
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The graphics were the least of Watch_Dog's problems.
A brutally translated version of these apologies
I used to think when a company apologized, it means they are truly learning... but since this has become such a common thing to just toss something out in a piss poor state, I just roll my eyes at them now.
rokkerkory
Member
Bring back Jade Raymond and we'll talk.
Ubi can't be trusted when it comes to having games perform as promised.
Ubi can't be trusted when it comes to having games perform as promised.
Mass_Pincup
Banned
Weird from what I remember Far Cry 4 performed as promised, and that was only a couple of months ago.
"I do not believe I am ready for public consumption at this time. Come back a few weeks after the game ships."
The hell is that? lol
Fixed
Raymond contributed to both Watch Dogs and Unity, and look how both of those turned out. Ubi's quality dropped after he left. And with all the stuff surrounding 1666 and his firing, he is never going back.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
What happens when you don't download the day 1 patch on pc, also only occurred on a couple specific graphics cards.
But i thought people disliked Brotherhood
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
So i'm a fanboy for being able to reply to the same blanket statements (and seemingly allowed blatant trolling) that get reiterated in every single Ubi related thread? Honestly, it's a discussion forum, follow my posts, I always try to back my statements up with a source of visual. Honestly, the revisionist history and blanket statements like "they've never tried to change the games" are extremely frustrating to read.
But do you see the fact that so many people find them boring and repetitive and same old stuff all over again?
Doesn't that point out that maybe, just maybe, they are not changing them enough to matter? Or not in the right ways?
What's even the point of making threads about Ubisoft anymore? It's not like there will be any discussion or anything.
You mean broken shadows and bloom out the ass? Yeah, fantastic.
You mean broken shadows and bloom out the ass? Yeah, fantastic.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
That's the thing, on GAF, you see that common complaint, but outside of this forum, many actually like their games. GAF is not indicative of the general gaming community. That and the fact that many say "oh it's repetitive" as a blanket statement, they don't actually state why or how, or acknowledge the differences between their games, they just use the word as if it's the only defining factor of the games. W3 is repetitive, the majority of question marks contain or lead to sword diagrams, Arkham Knight is repetitive, I have to shoot breakable objects in the environment to solve a riddle. These sounds like fun games to you? Ofc not, because both those statements completely ignore pretty much every other thing you can do in those games. And that's what happens in these threads. Yes you can collect a lot of chests in AC:Unity, you can also play the campaign, you can also play the side content that has a story for a large amount o characters that you meet both in the campaign and side campaign, mission design is now much more open. etc.
kraspkibble
Permabanned.
Good. I'm actually looking forward to Watch Dogs 2. It wasn't as bad as some people make it out to be. And I'm someone who very rarely ever plays Ubisoft games. Hope they announce it soon. Probably not until E3 next year, right?
What?
Brotherhood is still the best aggregated reviewed assassins creed game. And its considered among the best with 2 and black flag.
Lord of Castamere
Member
Nah, 2 had a higher MC by 1. Unless you're going off of the PC MC, which is odd as it has less reviews.
So why do you constantly tire yourself out trying to change the opinions of people who aren't going to change?
You would be much better off ignoring those comments, instead of fighting against them, because now people don't take you seriously because of your subtitle.
The shadows were more or less broken. They were of significantly lower quality than the rest of the shadows, and there were a lot of issues when you walking close to a car.
Here's some what the mod added:
Increased bloom. This went back and forth between releases. At one release it was so extreme that a single light source could bleed over the entire screen.
Permanent DoF. The DoF effect was already in the game; the mod only made it permanent. Purely and artistic choice.
Fog. Again, was already in the game. Artistic choice.
Colour grading and stuff. Artisti choice.
The only thing the mod added that wasn't already in the game was the shadows, and as I said, they were far below standard.
Watch_Dogs had the most boring car radio selection of any game of its kind that I've played. In games where you do a lot of driving, that's actually a big deal. GTA's excellent radio stations have always made the Point A to Point B gameplay better than it really deserves to be.
Huh, you are right. Last time I checked it the PS3 version was 91.
Älg;171079703 said:
The improved lighting and shadows put the default game to shame really. Some mods took it too far but you could tweak it yourself with some tool. The increased bloom that resulted in the distance mostly was well, well worth it.
You had mods that could decrease the DoF too.
There were also NPC, extended distance and rain improvements.
Shining Sunshine
Banned
Didn't see that E3 thread?
The reveal trailer was just a lie while the playable had terrible textures and crappy performance.
Any changes to lighting and shadows was due to the multitude of overdone post processing effects rather than actual improvements
By playable, are you talking about the alpha which had ALPHA plastered on all the unifinished assets that was available on PC earlier this year, or are you talking about the T Hunt stuff they showed at e3?
Because if you are talking about the prior -_-
Also, people played the build that was used in the reveal and is apparently "fake". It was played by the public. There are matches of it being played uploaded to youtube and gametrailers.
So ubisoft made a playable lie then?
iNvid02
Member
i think it might have to do with the fact that it was a multiplayer alpha
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Well it's a discussion forum.
jim2point0
Banned
If "fanboy" isn't the right word, then perhaps "Ubisoft Apologist" is more apt. I'm not so much speaking about the posts you're responding to but moreso the fact that you are literally in every Ubisoft thread defending any Ubisoft game that gets mentioned. Maybe some of these statements are frustrating to read, but most people wouldn't go to every single Ubisoft related thread, track them down, and respond to them. Do you do this for any other developer\publisher? Or is it just Ubisoft?
Dick Justice
Banned
The answer's on his tag. Every Ubisoft thread, every single one I read, this guy's in it defending their sacred honour. Never see him doing the same thing with other companies.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Read my posts history and you'd see me defending a lot of devs. Not solely Ubisoft. How about we act our age and avoid name calling? I'm not tracking these posts down. I read the article in the OP, then read the posts, and respond to some posts. You make it sound like I respond to literally every post in the thread.
"Sacred honor."
CosmicQueso
Member
Whenever people rant and complain about anything, even when the complaints are bullshit, no problem.
But like something a lot and discuss it on a discussion forum and you get called an apologist.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Exactly. Example, most ubisoft related threads, pick one and it's always the same shit, someone makes a false blanket statement, all fine, I come in with facts and sources and the reply is almost always
"Lol look at his tag, i'm so clever."
like what's the point? Yes, I'm a fan of Ubisoft games, so what.
Its a forum, you see the same few people in every VR thread, the same few people in Ubi threads, the same few people in Souls threads, people will talk and discuss and defend what they like, and there isn't anything wrong with that, I don't see how its productive to call anyone out, and it derails the thread
Shining Sunshine
Banned
No, the E3 reveal. Whatever was playable at E3 had just terrible textures according to leaks on GAF.
It's just an example of them bullshitting with trailers and the game ends up looking worse.
RedNumberFive
Banned
I know Watch Dogs gets a lot of shit around here, but I had a lot of fun with it. Ignoring the narrative and graphics downgrade, I think it had some of the better open world driving and gun play in recent memory. I felt it controlled much better than say GTA5.
HocusPocus
Member
They should refund their customers or give them a free game for their troubles.
GreatestHits
Member
Protip: Yves isn't tasked with keeping one of the biggest monetary industries in the world running AND telling the truth to those smart, intelligent, hard-working customers. But it's cute to read all these responses from the suits after their board of directors tears them a 59'th you-know-what.
They should roll-back their development to the E3 vertical slice and just start making as many slices as they can. IDK I guess they failed in the conceptualization phase on this one
They should roll-back their development to the E3 vertical slice and just start making as many slices as they can. IDK I guess they failed in the conceptualization phase on this one
Bingo.
No, you raise the numbers already there. You could do some great stuff with sweetfx though.
ShockingAlberto
Member
I imagine it's less that you're a vehement fan and more that you conveniently and consistently ignore every conversation you don't like.
Here in this thread, and many threads before this, you state that "no one explains what their complaints are." You say this to dismiss them as bandwagoning or sheep-like complaints, people who aren't worth listening to because they aren't high-minded enough to be discussing these things with you. And yet people do expound on these things, frequently. You just ignore it because it doesn't fit into your narrative.
It's frankly gotten tiring. I don't even bother when you're involved anymore, after trying to explain my feelings on ACU several times to you, you simply leave the thread and then appear in the next one saying "No one can say why they dislike it!"
To put it more simply: it probably has a lot less to do with your inexplicable, heart-heavy preferences and more your inability to argue in good faith.