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Minsc
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Don't know if it's true, but someone wrote in the comments if you drag a card out over the playfield, and then right click (while still holding it over the playfield without playing it) it will reset it to your hand same as if you were choosing a target for a battlecry and then cancelled the card.
Not only does it matter what you draft. It matters what your opponent was able to draft and what they chose.
Dragging a card out of hand and recalling it won't fix it. It needs to enter and leave play, basically, so the position of the cards in-hand actually adjust. Dragging it out and cancelling just gives a chance to grab it.
And it also matters how you play it.
And it also matters how you play it.
I find it very boring to play against. I have beaten it, but the formula so far for me has been precisely this: did I draw AoE (Consecrate/Lightning Storm/Holy Nova/Explosive Trap/etc.) in the first 3/4 turns? If so, I am very likely to win. If not, I am extremely like to lose. It's really that simple.
Rogues are Hunters with explosive trap are good against it. Mages, too!
Most classes are good at it. It does have the occasional explosive draw that is hard to contain but, for the most part, it's not too bad for basically every class.
The biggest problem of Murlocs was when there were ~3 variants of Warlock going around and all three had far different ways to approach the match-up. Due to changes in the meta in general, it's really not that bad if you assume Murlocs and get stuck with that hand against Giants.
The biggest problem of Murlocs was when there were ~3 variants of Warlock going around and all three had far different ways to approach the match-up. Due to changes in the meta in general, it's really not that bad if you assume Murlocs and get stuck with that hand against Giants.
Sometimes you get boned with Murloc deck for sure. Usually when my opponent is a warlock I'll mulligan unless I have Explosive Trap or UTH. I don't think they are overpowered, persay, but I do think that the game is basically decided by turn 4 or 5. If you have too much damage on you by that time it's almost impossible to come back -- they can usually sneak a few more damage in there with a surprise charge minion or Soulfire.
Holy shit I just had the best topdick ever...
Was playing Arena Mage, he had Merc out, with Ancestral Spirit, I manage to kill the first one, then the new one respawns, he gives it Windfury and goes straight for my face, drops a Doomhammer as well, I have 1 HP left.... On my board is a Mountain Giant and a Naga Healer.
I have Iceblock ready, but that's just one turn more... Tadah, here comes the Defender of Argus, I manage to get my minions buffed and still fear for my dear life. Then he drops a fucking Archer to hit my face for one. ICEBLOCKED BITCH! (I feel bad for playing mage)
I brewmaster the Argus back into my hand but he manages to kill all my shit in the next turn, but has only a totem and a Archer on board now... and still his fucking doomhammer, thanks to loothoarder I get one more card and it's a TazDingo, He keeps his hammer for now and drops only a totem and a low minion, but next turn I get a nightblade and pump both up with Argus... He has nothing anymore and rams his face into my nightblade for suicide.
Best victory of my life. Thank you RNGesus
Was playing Arena Mage, he had Merc out, with Ancestral Spirit, I manage to kill the first one, then the new one respawns, he gives it Windfury and goes straight for my face, drops a Doomhammer as well, I have 1 HP left.... On my board is a Mountain Giant and a Naga Healer.
I have Iceblock ready, but that's just one turn more... Tadah, here comes the Defender of Argus, I manage to get my minions buffed and still fear for my dear life. Then he drops a fucking Archer to hit my face for one. ICEBLOCKED BITCH! (I feel bad for playing mage)
I brewmaster the Argus back into my hand but he manages to kill all my shit in the next turn, but has only a totem and a Archer on board now... and still his fucking doomhammer, thanks to loothoarder I get one more card and it's a TazDingo, He keeps his hammer for now and drops only a totem and a low minion, but next turn I get a nightblade and pump both up with Argus... He has nothing anymore and rams his face into my nightblade for suicide.
Best victory of my life. Thank you RNGesus
Not sure if intentional or a legit slip up... either way pretty funny.
manfestival
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I dont think I have a single epic. I just beat a dude with 4 legendaries. I feel like the king of the world
Nope, just too much euphoria and Twitch chat....
And second game in a row, saved by Ice Block. First time I play this card, I can see why people are pissed off lol
Reposting for this page.
NA GAF Tournament Thread.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=766883
NA GAF Tournament Thread.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=766883
AaronB
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This may have been discussed somewhere in this massive thread, but what do you feel about the arena format? I think it would be better to have a fixed number of games (say, 8) and get a reward based on how many you won.
Under the current system, weak players/decks only get to play 3-5 games. Good players play 10+. As a result, weaker players get less chance to improve, and less enjoyment for their gold. This also means average players are disproportionately likely to play too many matches against good players. I think I've only ever had one legendary (Edwin Van Cleef) in about a dozen arenas (average about 4 wins, best run was 10), yet I go up against them all the time, including two Ragnaros' virtually back to back. I've also never gotten a legendary in packs, but that's another story.
Also, there's a developer interview on IGN for anyone who missed it. http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/02/11/a-busy-night-at-the-inn-talking-hearthstone-with-blizzard Adventure mode is coming some time this year.
Under the current system, weak players/decks only get to play 3-5 games. Good players play 10+. As a result, weaker players get less chance to improve, and less enjoyment for their gold. This also means average players are disproportionately likely to play too many matches against good players. I think I've only ever had one legendary (Edwin Van Cleef) in about a dozen arenas (average about 4 wins, best run was 10), yet I go up against them all the time, including two Ragnaros' virtually back to back. I've also never gotten a legendary in packs, but that's another story.
Also, there's a developer interview on IGN for anyone who missed it. http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/02/11/a-busy-night-at-the-inn-talking-hearthstone-with-blizzard Adventure mode is coming some time this year.
My defender of Argus didn't work
I guess it's a known issue?
Yeah, Blizzard is inept to fix this issue. It's been threre for so long and they did't manage to fix it.
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Yeah it works, I cancel druid choose one effects all the time.
it started with a ysera. And then proceeded to become one of the worsts drafts I've ever seen. 
Sacrifical Pact, Succubus and Demon Fire. What? No 6+ drop otherwise. No 5 drop apart from Silver Hand, Hope my Alarmo Bot (other choice was a chicken and a murloc) into ysera or molten giant can win me a least a few games...
0-3 dream here I come.
I swear to god, Demolisher is bugged. I've never seen it hit the hero. Ever.
Sacrifical Pact, Succubus and Demon Fire. What? No 6+ drop otherwise. No 5 drop apart from Silver Hand, Hope my Alarmo Bot (other choice was a chicken and a murloc) into ysera or molten giant can win me a least a few games...0-3 dream here I come.
I swear to god, Demolisher is bugged. I've never seen it hit the hero. Ever.
partyphone
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My defender of Argus didn't work
I guess it's a known issue?
You have to keep track of where you actually placed your cards. the bug happens when they visually shift around yet the game thinks they're in their original position. It's so annoying.
They don't even really need to fix the bug they just need argus to highlight the card(s) he's going to buff.
Ahem!
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=100304600&postcount=6054
Then again I intended for it to be shitty, so I guess it doesn't count.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Kungen just lost because of Argus bug. It happens way too often. They seriously need to fix that shit before doing ANYTHING else with this game.
it was worse. Believe me.
My first run at the Ladder was without buying anything, but it did have around a month+ of Arena playing behind it (though I still crafted the sole Legendary in the deck, Sylvanas). Got to Rank 5-ish before stopping the grind but could have finished the run to Legendary.
That deck isn't viable anymore, though.
From what I saw before the image was taken down, I'd say the 3x BoKings makes it a little awkward. Not that valuable of a card to draft multiples of. I'd probably not even take the one of it unless forced into it.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Sure! Rank 6.
My buddy has. He runs Druid, though.
*****
So I made a Warrior Control deck based on ripping off ideas from streams. Nailbiting, but it's hilarious to say "Yeah, that Mage did 40+ damage to me. I still won."
Last Ladder season I made it up to 6.
I don't grind Ladders though. I play enough to get the daily and do 1-2 Arena runs, that's about it every day.
Running a pair of Crazed Alchemists as a Priest in constructed is very fun. It has so many neat uses for either eliminating legendaries/4 attack creatures, or just a cheap inner fire alternative for a turn when it's needed. That and he makes short work of Pagle/Cho on turn 2.
DyslexicAlucard
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So I was literally complaining to a friend last night that I'm crazily overdue for a legendary. I'd only gotten one after months of playing.
I open a pack today and...
And then two packs later (ie: just now) I open a Cairne. I'm on a roll!
Mobius and pet octopus
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I am very surprised people don't play around mind control tech in arena more. I mean, this guy is helping me win matches. He is a bit hit or miss but still a very nice roll of the dice. Vs shaman I only got a 1/1. But then vs paladin I got a 4/4, and cleared his board same turn. Then vs mage I got a questing adventure who was like 6/6 already. He didn't have poly or even a fireball. GG pretty much
He's on a Rare pick so he normally has stiff competition.I am very surprised people don't play around mind control tech in arena more. I mean, this guy is helping me win matches. He is a bit hit or miss but still a very nice roll of the dice. Vs shaman I only got a 1/1. But then vs paladin I got a 4/4, and cleared his board same turn. Then vs mage I got a questing adventure who was like 6/6 already. He didn't have poly or even a fireball. GG pretty much
But as a 3 pick he is among the best so if the other rares don't fit the mana curve this is an easy pick. Depends on the other 2 though... but I definitely like Mind Control Tech. He has turned around a couple of games for me.
People have gotten to legendary without paying anything, so it's definitely doable. Keep in mind that to move up in rank, all you have to do is win 51% of your games and you'll eventually reach legendary. That's not a high bar, at least until you get to level 5 and below, I guess.
I am very surprised people don't play around mind control tech in arena more. I mean, this guy is helping me win matches. He is a bit hit or miss but still a very nice roll of the dice. Vs shaman I only got a 1/1. But then vs paladin I got a 4/4, and cleared his board same turn. Then vs mage I got a questing adventure who was like 6/6 already. He didn't have poly or even a fireball. GG pretty much
Sometimes I do, but most of the time I don't, since it's not a common card and I tend to play the odds rather than play very conservatively. What I've noticed, though, is that some players tend to try to entice you to get 4 minions on the board so they can MC a minion. By entice you, I mean they will go for face instead of removing your cards, won't play anything, etc. Um.. I am more than happy to smash your face in and flood the board and take a chance that you grab one of my minions, sir.
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