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Fighting Games Weekly | June 16-22 | Put Down Your Pikachus
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MiniBossBattle
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There is no money in fighting games and when there is, its in Anime. A lose/lose situation. Stay away from Anime kids.
Stabby McSter
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why must everyone keep resurrecting anime
P4A is a much different kind of game than BB with a much different legacy of players. If we have a decent number of JP players having 4 US players in there would be a pretty big upset. Last year we figured LK/BKen would get top 8 and maybe another, so 4 wasn't a huge shocker besides the fact we thought Spark was dead.
SolarKnight
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Yeah but I think we can agree it'll likely be a very Japan-heavy top 8 right?
I'm sure they do so for various reasons. Partly to show their appreciation to the community, partly to give more exposure to their current game, partly to give exposure to what they have coming out in the future by supporting an event.
As much as I love to joke about Marvel being buttcheeks, it won't die. Marvel will still get crossover to keep it alive. Even with the drop in numbers Marvel has, it's still the second most popular game at tournaments. And if these players weren't playing Marvel, then they'd be playing Ultra because they're not going to pick up a game outside of the Capcom realm.
We'll see what happens after EVO.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
That didn't stop them last year. And Smash is a likely #2 or #3 in terms or entrants.
Kalamari
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What was the order last year?
Oh yeah for sure. America just isn't quite there for BB, we have a couple players who can almost be there but quite a few who are just not there. I know some people will see this and cry foul, but it's better to be realistic. The anime scene has had a problem with delusion and skill levels recently.
The thing is, let's say 8 JP players show, we already have an okay shot at a couple people making top 8 anyways, then brackets happen and there you have it. You also have to account for other factors like the JP player's comfort levels and blah blah.
There were already like 8-10 people confirmed, excluding guys that aren't top players in BlazBlue specifically but play at Evo and whatnot, like Tokido.
BlazBlue on Friday confirmed.
Name 'em off for me. I admittedly haven't kept up recently due to nuking my twitter.
Ah, that second part is not something I think we expected after 2013's Fri/Sat games disappeared in the initial announcements.
DryEyeRelief
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When picking up SF4..or any fighting game, and looking at the commands in the menu, did you have hard time?
WHAT SIDE DO YOU MEAN MAN
In the same vein as number notation, the directional inputs assume 1p player default/the character is facing the right. That' the basis of the notation entirely. The problem you and karst have is that you're looking at this as 6 translates into the direction "right" and 4 is "left". 6 is actually "forward" and 4 is actually "back"
Secondly, countries who don't have english as their native language don't use terms like QCF and they get by just fine. 236 is universal.
Karsticles said:
That's just terrible teaching. Not only are you just throwing multiple concepts at this person all at once but no one who actually understands the notation would say do 214 on the other side to do a fireball.
And I think you're giving too much credit to the term "quarter circle forward" and similar notation. No one who's new to fighting games understands what that is intuitively. They understand single directions however, like forward and down. Teaching anyone, you would be forced to approach the same starting point with either notation.
Huw_Dawson
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Gamersyde doesn't allow for MOV files. ;_;
I hope this finishes converting to MP4 soon. >_>
I hope this finishes converting to MP4 soon. >_>
SolarKnight
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Yeah sounds about right.
I think the most amusing result would be if the top 8 manages to be more international than just Japan and US. I have no faith in that happening but it'd be great if it did.
Huw_Dawson
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That's not QCF and QCB though, that's anime notation with the numbers swapped for arrows.
Can't remember all, but I can remember...
N Man, Matoi, Dogura, Dora, Tsujikawa, Galileo, and Hima.
This was like a month or 2 ago too.
This gif is so appropriate to this conversation.
I know... But still, I will forever be salty.
In before there is a schedule change!
You could try PMing BlimBlim and see if he can do something for you. He runs the site.
MrWizard
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BlazBlue is actually on Sunday! Yay Anime!
Shouta
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Tekken on Friday confirmed!
I remember seeing all of those except Galileo and Hima. It was maybe 2 weeks before UFGT that I just couldn't handle AFGC socially anymore.
DryEyeRelief
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and? you want me to look up SFIV specifically?
are you really saying that these swipe motions are more intuitive than showing the actual directional inputs (anime notation as you label it)?
how does this even address your side swapping concern? do you even have a point anymore?
I didn't remember Hima but I think I remember Galileo. Also Grandia and Yoshiki are going.
Ragingnight
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16 bit =(
I didn't remember Hima but I think I remember Galileo. Also Grandia and Yoshiki are going.
I swear I remember hearing that Grandia got bodied by work when I was on mumble the other night. Yoshiki Nu though? That makes me pretty happy, everybody loves Nu.
Huw_Dawson
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You don't know immediately if the commands represent 1p or 2p side. You also don't know in anime notation, as somebody could either be referring to doing a 236 motion (in general, to perform a hadoken) or doing a 236 motion (in that instance, to do a tatsu on 2p side). If I say 236+k for 2p tatsu with the whole "look at your keyboard to find out what the hell I mean" logic, that is right by what I am visually seeing, right by the motion I am doing in the game, but wrong by the rule of the notation that 6 actually means forwards, when on the keyboard and in the game it clearly means right. The notation itself is thus at fault - it is unclear, open to interpretation and only made clear by inventing a rule that has to be further explained.
QCF, on the other hand, *always* means from down to forwards. If I say I flubbed a QCF motion, you know exactly what I mean 100% of the time. I don't need to mentally pull up a keyboard in my head or use context to determine if I am referring to a QCF or a 2P QCB.
I should also point out the obviously stupid notation that is a 720 in anime:
63214789632147896+p.
Oh shit, I missed that.
Most of your posts regarding how people use "anime notation" have been pretty exaggerated and misguided but this is the height of ridiculousness.
Karsticles
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Those are arrows, not numbers. Yes, as kids, me and all of my friends would flip the inputs sometimes because of how they are displayed. Then some games started to flip the inputs based on which side you are on, and that confused the confusion!
I know the teaching is terrible - the point is to show how much you have to talk about to demonstrate a simple point. I stand by my point, and you definitely have not disproved it just by disagreeing.
Huw_Dawson
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That is 720 in anime though, right? I'm staring at my keyboard right now. If I start at forwards, and do two 360s, the notation reads as 63214789632147896.
EDIT:
Then you're using SF notation because it's clearer. I think this is pretty much it - like I said above, you use anime notation for awkward motions or for absolute clarity. There's no argument from me there. But as a general replacement for QCF, 360, QCB, I think it fails on too many levels to be worth picking up.
SolarPowered
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I prefer number notation for widespread use since it eases the burden for people who don't speak english too well. Light, medium and heavy designations for buttons and punches/kicks beats the living hell out of strong, roundhouse and all that other jargon, though.
That's a lot of money.
That's a lot of money.
Using numeric notation is a really good way to piss off Tekken players -- especially when you use American labeling for the attack buttons.
The games with the two biggest pots at Evo 2012 were VF5:FS and MK9... so nope. I'm legitimately surprised ArcSys is throwing that much money at Evo, though. That's what, $17,500 guaranteed for first place? That's on top of whatever the prize pool is, and with BB actually having players show up for once that may not be insignificant.
So you're saying it's not time to move on, for once? :3
Passive Assassin
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ahh yiss can't wait for that second season!
Ragingnight
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i started from SF and in terms of character notation, keypad is 100x better than SF in games that have specific normals. Like 2A, 3A, and 1A.
The whole "but but 720p would be 6321478963214789 ! and if you use 720 to note a 720 then SF is clearer!"
Why not use both of them to make it clearer. No need to use just one.
The whole "but but 720p would be 6321478963214789 ! and if you use 720 to note a 720 then SF is clearer!"
Why not use both of them to make it clearer. No need to use just one.
sixteen-bit
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damn i gotta buy that new Blazblue
Street Fighter had $25k, Mortal Kombat $23k, and Marvel and Viruta Fighter were both $15k.
Those were with the bonuses.
"God's Beard!"
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Q to win more money than Justin Wong this EVO.
Slamtastic
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100x better is a bit of an exaggeration for having to add one extra letter sometimes to type "d.L, df.L, and db.L".
Also I like using LMH instead of ABC
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