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Final Fantasy XII - Post Mortem
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Deadly Monk
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Himuro said:
Then you have good taste
It truly is the best scene in the entire game for me. I wish they had made a prequel for this game...
Lady Bird
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Jun Akiyama (event director of Vagrant Story, Kingdom Hearts 1, Final Fantasy XII, Final Fantasy Versus XIII)Yaweee said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2nyQyFG0ds
This one's also one of the best the game has to offer (starts at minute 1.20). There's a moment in this cutscene where Ashe looks at Vaan before making her big decision, which shows Vaan's importance as a character (and especially as a representation of the Dalmascan citizens) in an extremely subtle way.
EDIT: And yeah, Revenant Wings focus on Vaan and Penelo and their sky pirate adventures. There's some nice character development there as well. The story's pretty nice, as long as you keep in mind it's supposed to be simple & fun, and the game's not a spin-off quality game like FF tactics, but something more like FFX-2. When seen as a small expansion of FFXII's story (ormore correctly, a completely new side-story that expands upon the FFXII's characters), RW's story is sweet at that. It has some pretty nice moments regarding the characters interactions, relationships, personal conflicts, etc; which is exactly what FFXII needed more.
PepsimanVsJoe
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I forget which town(I think it was that one that was kind of optional) it was but there was a shopkeeper watching the sunset over a vast canyon and for the longest time I though his description said "Pretentious merchant".
I was wrong. =/
I was wrong. =/
Bahamut was just a means to an end, nothing more. Considering the size of Bahamut S-E could have made that section into something really special but instead they gave us a means to an end.Himuro said:
Pharos, Feywood, Giruvgean(sp) rocked. Too bad it took the entire game to get to them. :lol
PepsimanVsJoe
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darkwings said:
Nope. I thought it was a real drag myself(the end of it was great though).
badcrumble
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I keep forgetting that the cutscene director for FF Versus 13 is the same guy who did Vagrant Story, Kingdom Hearts, and Final Fantasy XII and every time I discover this fact again my hope for the game goes up by a lot. He's so, so good (Kingdom Hearts had very well done cutscenes in my opinion - the voiced ones, anyway).
chicken_ramen
Member
Yaweee said:
The cutscenes in this and VS both have a sense of... cinematography about them that I just love. That they took the time to properly think about camera is just cool to me, and puts it a step above absolutely everything else in the genre.
Thinking about it now, Kingdom Hearts was pretty good in that regard too.
Himuro said:
As somebody who's finished it, i'd say a definite no. The game was poor in almost every area except for the cool background graphics. Worst of all, it makes me look back at FFXII's piss poor plot with my head up, because they actually make the plot quite worse here.
Himuro said:
I agree, hunts were a big part of my enjoyment with FFXII. Though I loved the game anyway, but my biggest gripe, hands down, is the plot. The plot should have been MUCH MUCH bigger. Awaiting the games release during the four years since it was announced, I was so excited for Matsuno's involvement it felt like this would be the Final Fantasy game (and story) I always wanted. A lot of the Vagrant Story team worked on the game, and Vagrant Story holds an EXTREMELY special place in my gaming memories. After the intro cutscene, I was confident the plot was heading in the direction i dreamed of. Unfortunately, less than 5 hours later, it goes down, and down, and down.
PepsimanVsJoe
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BTW: I picked FFXII up again and am starting a brand new game.
I blame Himuro.
Currently at:
"The Treaty would be signed with Steel and Writ in royal Blood."
Yep...just started.
Time to Reks somebody's shit.(groan)
"Do you see the marker above my head?"
4th wall broken with the fury.
Ugh Dalmascans wear sandals. blechhhhh
I blame Himuro.
Currently at:
"The Treaty would be signed with Steel and Writ in royal Blood."
Yep...just started.
Time to Reks somebody's shit.(groan)
"Do you see the marker above my head?"
4th wall broken with the fury.
Ugh Dalmascans wear sandals. blechhhhh
â Narayan
Member
Vagrant Story is the greatest game ever made, so, it's unsurprising that anyone would enjoy anything out of it.Fady K said:
PepsimanVsJoe
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I think I'll go after the Zodiac Spear this time. Why not? It's not like there's anything good in the chests anyway.
PepsimanVsJoe said:
The Zodiac Spear pretty much breaks the game. My Balthier is like a Terminator: Zodiac Spear + Gambits that set up Haste, Brave and Bubble.
Good luck having fun at the Pharos with a setup like that. I walked around, waited until Balthier slaughtered everything, walked some more, waited until Balthier slaughtered everything, etc.
PepsimanVsJoe
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Fine by me. Last time I picked this game up I beat it and did a fair number of the sidequests. I was going to save a replay for International + Zodiac Braves/whatever the improved version was called but since it'll never be localized I have little choice.
SabinFigaro
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Oh, you only need nine items:
- Gemsteel x3
- Empyreal Soul x3
- Serpentarius x3
Nine items that need to be made with other items of the most ridiculous drop chances. I remember spending hours farming for Hell-Gate's Flames and Soul Powders. However, the other items came rather quickly. Still, it doesn't detract from one of my most cherished RPG experiences of last generation.
- Gemsteel x3
- Empyreal Soul x3
- Serpentarius x3
Nine items that need to be made with other items of the most ridiculous drop chances. I remember spending hours farming for Hell-Gate's Flames and Soul Powders. However, the other items came rather quickly. Still, it doesn't detract from one of my most cherished RPG experiences of last generation.
Yes, obtaining is rather difficult or should I say mildly time consuming but for the best weapon of the game it's well well worth it and you can obtain it straight after the Draklor Laboratories. If you don't bother with the Canopic Jap the High Arcana can also be annoying. The Soul of Thamasa is another pain item to get.SabinFigaro said:
PepsimanVsJoe
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Whoo that Flowering Cactoid was a serious dick. About halfway through the fight he leads through all these packs of wolves then to top it off he slaps Penelo with 1,000 needles(we're only level 5). =(
Oh well guess I'll go to Giza and do my thing.
Went to Nalbina and scored some better stuff.
Oh well guess I'll go to Giza and do my thing.
Went to Nalbina and scored some better stuff.
Revengeance
Member
The Tournesol took me sooo long to get, but damn is it badass.SabinFigaro said:
Odious Tea
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Just wanted to thank this OP and Himuro, went out and purchased FFXII -- it was only $12.99, so what the hell.
Just finished escaping the Leviathan and taking out that giant-ish serpent for a hunt. I'm liking it a whole lot.
Thanks again.
Just finished escaping the Leviathan and taking out that giant-ish serpent for a hunt. I'm liking it a whole lot.
Thanks again.
Red Scarlet
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SFGamer said:
If you don't have any side areas unlocked..probably the place at the end of Giruvegan. There should be some 'invisible' ghost zombie soldier guys that can spawn like crazy and give lots of exp. Just don't get lost...otherwise it'd be walking through the Pharos.
PepsimanVsJoe
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Okay now I'm in the Barheim passage. One of the nice things I'll say about the dungeons in this game is that they go by pretty smoothly. Then again that's probably because the last RPG I played through before this was Phantasy Star 2.
I still think the HUGE boss attacks are stupid...but that's mainly because I can't see my character's status so I'm not sure if they're in the clear.
In other good news..apparently I'm in the clear regarding the Zodiac Spear, as long as I don't suddenly feel the urge to find out what Dalan keeps outfront of his house.
Also this game I'm going to make it a point to have Balthier, Penelo, and Fran as my main party. Last time it was Vaan(I know), Ashe(I KNOW), and Basch.
Oaken Pole woot.
Lol giant Electro-mimic went down like that.
Okay Vaan this is your chance! Punch Basch in the face!...Oh wait..nevermind.
I still think the HUGE boss attacks are stupid...but that's mainly because I can't see my character's status so I'm not sure if they're in the clear.
In other good news..apparently I'm in the clear regarding the Zodiac Spear, as long as I don't suddenly feel the urge to find out what Dalan keeps outfront of his house.
Also this game I'm going to make it a point to have Balthier, Penelo, and Fran as my main party. Last time it was Vaan(I know), Ashe(I KNOW), and Basch.
Oaken Pole woot.
Lol giant Electro-mimic went down like that.
Okay Vaan this is your chance! Punch Basch in the face!...Oh wait..nevermind.
Such a weird game. At times it triggered my farming instincts and I did hunts like crazy. Then it somehow got me depressed about gambits, sucky summons and crazy limit system. Those and the not-plot.
I think I would've enjoyed it much more with turn based combat somehow. I did play FFX like 100% through.
I think I would've enjoyed it much more with turn based combat somehow. I did play FFX like 100% through.
PepsimanVsJoe
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Grinding away in the Lhusu mines. I went from level 10 to level 17...maybe I'll shoot for 20...
I might as well because I apparently have no eye for tactics and even though the guide said I could take the Cluckatrice(asshole mark which is like a five on one battle) before the Mines I couldn't do much of anything before getting overwhelmed.
I might as well because I apparently have no eye for tactics and even though the guide said I could take the Cluckatrice(asshole mark which is like a five on one battle) before the Mines I couldn't do much of anything before getting overwhelmed.
Goddammit this thread made me start up FFXII again. Just got done with getting back to Rabanastre after escaping the Barheim Passage.
I think this time I'll actually either try levelling my party evenly, or at least use the three I didn't use in my first run (Fran, Vaan, and Basch). Levelling them up evenly would at least ensure that during the final boss fight I'm not running around with a level 15 Fran hoping that she has enough time to revive the other guys...
I think this time I'll actually either try levelling my party evenly, or at least use the three I didn't use in my first run (Fran, Vaan, and Basch). Levelling them up evenly would at least ensure that during the final boss fight I'm not running around with a level 15 Fran hoping that she has enough time to revive the other guys...
To those who've tried it, is it worth getting the FF12 international zodiac job system version? Is it a significant improvement over the old license grid/battle system enough to justify? This is the only main series FF I haven't finished - more due to time constraints than anything, but if I would get back into it I wouldn't mind playing the 'best' version.
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